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"world" music + bands from other countries
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aidan
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12/6/2004 11:59 AM
    can anybody recommend any new or old artists and records that come under the heading of "world" music? I don't necessarily mean tribal/ethnic folk stuff, but just different sounds and styles. for instance, I saw tinariwen on jools holland's show a few months ago and I was blown away (north african nomads with scuzzy guitars; they rock!!!) - did anyone here get their record, and is it any good? did anyone see them at crawdaddy in dublin a few months ago? I'm a bit bored by the buena vista coffee-table club type of stuff, but has anyone any views on people like susanna baca, bebel gilberto, or any other acts they would like to recommend? for example, bands like dover (from spain)? if anyone's interested, I'm into current french acts like carla bruni, mathieu boogerts, paris combo and benjamin biolay (all deadly stuff), as well as some english-language swedish acts like the knife and jay jay johansen. I'd definitely recommend them. friends of mine in france and sweden let me know about them, and I'm a francophile anyway (serge gainsbourg = genius).
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    12/6/2004 12:01 PM
    Vanessa Mae. She plays the electric violin and does covers of stuff ranging from nirvana to bach...
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    12/6/2004 12:05 PM
    optimus, thanks but no thanks 8) - I'd prefer to go to the dentist instead of listening to 'cool' and 'hip' classical music (and that isn't really what I was looking for in my mail)
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    12/6/2004 12:12 PM
    you could check out Peter Gabriel's "Real World" label there should be a wealth of choice there. also John Kenny has been championing the "Ethiopique" compilations May be worth investigating
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    12/6/2004 12:15 PM
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    can anybody recommend any new or old artists and records that come under the heading of "world" music? I don't necessarily mean tribal/ethnic folk stuff, but just different sounds and styles. for instance, I saw tinariwen on jools holland's show a few months ago and I was blown away
    If you liked them, you would also like Ali Farka Toure and John Lee Hookers solo guitar work on his collection of detroit recordings 1948-52
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    12/6/2004 12:38 PM
    Hi Adian...bit of a francophile myself...but haven't heard anything by mathieu boogerts, paris combo or benjamin biolay - what are they like? Not really a Carla Bruni fan i have to admit
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    12/6/2004 12:39 PM
    wicker, thanks - I've seen the 'ethiopique' label in record shops. I don't get to listen to john kelly as much as I like to(I presume you meant him and not the sports/metal guy from 2fm!!!!) because I work some evenings. nor do I get to listen to donal dineen any more because I also work in the mornings and I need some sleep....!!!!! jules, I've been curious about ali farka toure and also people like yossou n'dour (he got a real rave-up in 'the ticket' a while back), fela kuti, miriam makeba.... I'll check them out. ...so, if anyone can recommend some records (especially label samplers or compilations) I'd be happy to hear it.
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    12/6/2004 12:50 PM
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    Hi Adian...bit of a francophile myself...but haven't heard anything by mathieu boogerts, paris combo or benjamin biolay - what are they like? Not really a Carla Bruni fan i have to admit
    dromed, maybe you can get a listen to them somewhere on d'internet to check them for yourself, but I'll try to describe them as best I can benjamin biolay writes guitar-pop stuff - imagine if saint etienne were a guitar band, or think of teenage fanclub's more jangly and upbeat stuff. I heard his music in a french movie called 'clara et moi' - he wrote the soundtrack and the songs featured and I liked them. mathieu boogerts uses mainly keyboards for his songs, similar to benjamin biolay. there seem to be a share of french acts around who are into the whole sunny-retro-pop style of things. paris combo mix django reinhardt/hot club jazz, north african sounds and lots of other styles, a deadly female singer, really exciting stuff... carla bruni is an acquired taste, that's true. can you recommend anything, dromed?
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    12/6/2004 2:40 PM
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    optimus, thanks but no thanks 8) - I'd prefer to go to the dentist instead of listening to 'cool' and 'hip' classical music (and that isn't really what I was looking for in my mail)
    Well excuse me.... I dont consider her music hip. In fact, I dont know ANYONE besides myself who listens to her stuff. So where "cool" & "hip" come from only you know.
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    12/6/2004 3:09 PM
    Sebastien Tellier - Love him, really quirky bizarre cinematic electro jazz type stuff...have seen him live twice supporting Air and he plays with a female Theramin player who's a bit nuts... Phoenix - United and Alphabetical are their 2 albums...strange but compelling mix of lo-fi electronic pop - I love this band with a passion - don't think they've ever played here...adn didn't come over on their last tour...don't tour very much M83 - 'Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts' - can take a bit of listening to I think, not everyone's electronic cup of tea (!) very atmospheric and cinematic too - saw them in the Sugar club....brilliant live That's all I can think of at the moment....
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    12/6/2004 3:34 PM
    Well excuse me.... I dont consider her music hip. In fact, I dont know ANYONE besides myself who listens to her stuff. So where "cool" & "hip" come from only you know. sorry optimus, I phrased that badly, didn't mean that to sound like a dig at you, definitely not my intention. what I meant was that vanessa-mae seems to me a marketing idea of making classical music "hip" and "trendy" and "sexy" . dromed, thanks for the recommendations, I'll go looking for them straight away
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    12/6/2004 3:44 PM
    I agree with the Nigel Kennedy thing. But Ms. Mae has, according to the standard press releases, done it on her own and is finally signed. Of course, unlike the lads from Spinal Tap, I DONT believe everything I read. I still like her regardless...
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    12/7/2004 7:12 PM
    and would an Irish language guitar band be world music too? ] It would be, surely, in my opinion, and I've plans to start one in the near future.
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    12/7/2004 8:34 PM
    Anyone remember a band called "9 Wassies from Bainne" (or something like that) and the song they did about the Irish language.
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    12/7/2004 9:50 PM
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    and would an Irish language guitar band be world music too? ]
    This is actually a pertinent question. Charlie Gillet, the BBC's High Priest of World Music does include Irish music in his World Music radio show but he has only played 6 separate Irish tracks a total of 8 times in the last 5 years on his radio show, by Christy Moore (two tracks), Sinead O'Connor, Danu, Derek Bell and Cara Dillon. Even Mexico comes off better.
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    12/7/2004 9:55 PM
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    Anyone remember a band called "9 Wassies from Bainne" (or something like that) and the song they did about the Irish language.
    Found this on the net for y'all Before any talk of the music itself, this record has to be placed in it's historical context. The Wassies, more of a project than a band, is the brainchild of one Giordai Ua Laoghaire, a veteran of over twenty years of fringe music in Ireland. First heard on Kaught at the Kampus, a live mini-album from University College Cork from around 1980, he was playing in a band called Nunattax....... Microdisney and Five Go Down To The Sea were formed from the ashes of that band; two major players in independant music in the early eighties. Microdisney went on to be Fatima Mansions who paralysed themselves in their recording contract by being so consistently, wilfully uncommercial over such a long period of time. The 'Mansions Cathal Coughlan still is said to regard Giordai as 'a god' on the old plank and the spanking of it. This album was a long time coming; apart from an appearance on the 'Volume' cd produced by the Crawford gallery, Wassies material has been practically non-existent. The songs are a surreal blend of Irish language and slang mixed with epic stories sung in that cod-operatic yodel so favoured by Corkonians of that generation. The music mixes sound-collage with warbling keyboards, progressive heavy-metal guitars, various kinds of pastiche and seems to be mostly tongue-in-cheek in a F. Zappa kind of way. Guest appearances by Roger Gregg performing his 'Shop at Fleadhworld' spoken piece and a Decal remix make for an even stranger grab-bag of ideas. Certainly value for your rock dollar is provided, all my misgivings were swamped in the wealth of material. I've only seen this album in Road Records this last while. If what I've described sounds like your kind of thing then waste no time, support your local nutter today. The last track is the most anarchic of all but I'll not give the game away. (Source: Thumped.com) And this is their website www.dojo.ie/9wassies All part of the service.
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    12/7/2004 10:44 PM
    think the super fury animals released an album all in welsh a couple of years back. might that interest you? i also quite liked damon albarn's mali music thing. D'you see that as exploitative?
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    12/8/2004 9:28 AM
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    12/8/2004 9:51 AM
    Bear - SFA's album was called Mwng - check out at www.mwng.co.uk Mali Music Rocks..... Also Check out either Ronan O Snodaighs Tip Toe - Kinda spanish acoustic guitar stuff or Tonta Ró which is a kinda tribal album but in Irish - very very good
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    12/8/2004 10:47 AM
    bear, karlito, thanks for all that. I think that gorky's zygotic mynki have a welsh-language album also. I don't think damon albarn's mali album is exploitative in principle (though I haven't heard it). fair play to him for using his name to bring some interest to it. any other tips from other countries/languages, anyone? any other good european pop/rock bands singing in their own language?
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