The first comment you quoted wasn't really a dig at them was it?

Interesting thread... I've been living out of Ireland now for 7 years. First London, now Sydney. I've kept up my subscription to various Irish magazines (one of which gets a fair amount of press on these discussion boards!). Whilst I am no officianado, what happens locally in Ireland will always intrigue me. Bands getting a hard time in their home town is hardly a new thing. Look at the Killers - going nowhere fast in Vegas, a hit in the UK. A similar (ish) story for the Strokes. Here, in Sydney, I rarely if ever see a vitriolic review of a hometown band - the reviews are usually more constructive, more passionate, more hopeful. The article written about Humanzi (I must admit at this stage that I have never heard a Humanzi or Immediate tune) is probably more interesting that the band itself by the sounds of things! It seems to me that this journalist has lashed out with a blunt blade at the band, their management and their record company. So what if Humanzi have grabbed some profile support slots, some decent airplay. So what if these guys strike a pose? So what if expectations were high about the album and it didn't deliver. The journalist seems to be suggesting that a more homely, organic growth approach is always best. Patent bollocks in my opinion. Not that that is the only example of patent bollocks on this thread. I've always enjoyed the fact that CLUAS reviewers are unpaid - as Eoghan memorably described it to me once, the archetypal CLUAS reviewer is right behind you in the queue for the movie with his popcorn paid for. Some of the comments on this thread seem to hint that a "music critic" has a view that carries greater weight - well I beg to differ. There are many music and movie reviewers the world over that are questioning the value of their written word. Indeed some of the critics on this very thread have commented that they rarely listen to an album twice (hardly seems fair?) or that the sheer volume of music that they listen to somehow hones their "quality detectors". The internet has made everyone's opinion available. And valuable. I've picked up many an album because it was commended on these very pages by someone who may also worship Bryan McFadden for all I know. Or care. I'm now predisposed to liking any Humanzi tune that I may come across....

I'm logged on here as Thomas Walsh. No "alter ego" name etc, etc so anyone here who thinks I'm an "Ego-Maniac" for trying to help this disscussion by pointing out that bands actually respect each other, like each others music AND get on (God forbid)well fair enough. Also if "Flux" or "Pilchard" are ever at a Pugwash gig(!) please introduce yourselves as I like to say what I feel in person and really get stuck into an argument over a pint not a keyboard. Or if they prefer they can pop up to "Egomaniac Mansions" i.e my bedsit in Crumlin and have a natter. They're doing a choice of 2 chocolate bars from 3 (Dime - Toblerone - Terry's Orange) for 99 cent in the Centra next door. I'll get them if you bring the milk.....

Some excellent points Stephen. Well put.

Good stuff Stephen - and it's cool to see that you're still keeping an eye on what's going on at home :) Nerraw fair play for the cut and paste job..anyone that reads that and doesn't get the bloody point that Carroll does have a particualr thing about Humanzi is deluded. And that's the whole point here..no one is having a micky fit over the fact that Humanzi got a bad review for jaysus sake, but that article is loaded with venom and bulls**t. Did he actually have the nerve to write " especially on the tiny-minded Dublin scene, where local musicians favour backbiting and begrudgery above writing decent tunes" ?? Hypocrite! Resorting to schoolroom-type jokes about leather trousers is what passes for journalism now? Give me a f**kin break. As Raoul pointed out - Carroll obviously knows f**k all about what's actually going on in Irish music other than what lands on his desk. Mr. Walsh also makes a fine point that there is a lot of love between bands in our fair Isle - a lot of mutual support and genuine friendships and a poxy review isn't going to start a war between them!

over 2000 views - more people have read this thread than have bought the humanzi album. at least, they have people talking bout them

Just me or does Pilchard = Jim Carroll? ;)

Jim Carroll is the Graham Poll of the muso journo world....more interested in making a name for himself than anything...I think if we all just ignore him he'll go away...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YvIDCHWkB4 Humanzi fella on Sky news.

O my god that was shameful .

christ on a bike. now, if they put THAT on the album, someone might buy it for comedy value alone. that and their other voices appearance. comedy punk rock.

i dont get why everyone is going on about this a bloke - in a band - talkin about music - in a very casual way - as ya would to your mate - no false pretences - so whats the problem?

Jaysus, Humanzi are so fvcking rock N roll. Slags off westlife while wearing a Next a scarf around his neck, that's so punk. 'They make me want to him them with a guitar,' stick to the music lads, and leave beating up boybands to Simon Cowell.

Wow you guys get pissed off...wayyyyyy too easily..seriously, let it go.

Pissed off? We could just see the irony as I think most people were laughing at the Sky news interview. A 21st century punk band slagging off Westlife is very very funny.