| Gar Veteran Member Posts:1676   
						
							
								| 7/20/2004 12:47 PM |  |  
								| Just wondering if anyone ever follows these yearly nominations. I've discovered alot of good artists through this including Ed Harcourt, Gemma Hayes, PJ Harvey, Gomez. They just released the nominations this morning with Snow Patrol, Franz Ferdinand, Belle & Sebastian, Amy Winehouse, Joss Stone, Keane, The Streets, Basement Jaxx, Jamelia, Ty, Robert Wyatt and The Zutons all involoved. I'm sure Franz Ferdinand will be favourites but I think that The Zutons should win it.
Does anyone know of other really good artists who have been nominated through the years? |  
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					| Binokular Veteran Member Posts:1665   
							
								
									| 7/20/2004 1:14 PM |  |  
									| I'm sure a lot of acts pretend they don't care about the mercury music prize but secretly would love to win it! 
Personally I reckon Basement Jaxx deserve to win it purely on the strength of Kish Kash, which was one of the best albums of last year. None of the other acts listed produced an album remotely as exciting. Runners up should be The Zutons or Jamelia, who is good enough to take on American R&B divas like Beyonce.
As for my opinions on the rest:
Snow Patrol - Starfighter Pilot was great, but the band seem to have lost their original charm.
Franz Ferdinand - Good, but not that good
Belle and Sebastian - too clever by half   
Amy Winehouse - dinner party music for thirtysomethings, yawn..
Joss Stone - Shes young and has a fantastic voice, er.. so what? Soul thats curiously lacking in soul, get an Aretha Frankin (or countless other Stax/Motown female solo artists) record, or maybe even Sharon Tandys recently released compilation if you want to be a bit obscure.
Keane - Like Coldplay, but a bit better, still boring.
The Streets - Lets move things forward, eh? Current album makes no progression over the first.
Ty - Haven't heard his stuff to be honest, its UK Hip Hop init? And not the Streets, good start.
Robert Wyatt - Showing my ignorance yet again, this completely slipped under my radar. He used to be in Soft machine? Haven't heard their stuff either. |  
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					| flagman Basic Member Posts:150   
							
								
									| 7/20/2004 1:26 PM |  |  
									| Excuse me, The Streets' new record is a fine album.
And it's very concept of this linear story of a rough time in the main character's life charting the break up of his relationship and losing faith in his friends and almost giving up, itself pushes things forward.
Me thinks anyway.
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					| Binokular Veteran Member Posts:1665   
							
								
									| 7/20/2004 1:52 PM |  |  
									| Fine record, no doubt, just not up to the hype I reckon. Linear storyline concept album isn't a new idea though is it? Even Billy Corgan had an ill-fated go at the idea with the "Machina:The Machines of God" album. OK few are as on a personal level as the streets, but see past the geezer stories and dripping sentimentality and this really is pretty unremarkable musically. Its enjoyable, and Mike Skinner can tell a good yarn and even tug the heartstrings at times, but this really isn't pushing the envelope. |  
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					| Brain of G Basic Member Posts:161   
							
								
									| 7/20/2004 2:01 PM |  |  
									| That's an exceptionally poor line up of nominees for the Mercury music prize. Is this whats is counted as good music nowadays. I know this is just an opinion but I have to agree with a lot of what Binokular says. I mean, Franz Ferdinand??? And I'm not a huge fan of Snow Patrol or Keane either.  Also I find The Streets a bit monotonous but I can see why people like his stuff so I won't pass comment. |  
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					| El Duderino Basic Member Posts:179   
							
								
									| 7/21/2004 7:08 AM |  |  
									| The streets album is one of the most engaging albums I've heard in a long time. The whole idea of a concept album isn't new but it is very hard to pull off properly. I think it is a departure from his first album because he has used a different tact from the first time around. The thing about the streets that really appeals to me is the off beat music and rhymes that he uses and the sheer amount of musical styles he incorporates into his own sound. He doesn't take the easy way out and I think for that reason he is a special act at the moment. Alot of his tunes (to me) sound like they shouldn't work on the first listen but once you've gotten into it, it's very hard to fault. A truly unique act in my opinion |  
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									| 7/21/2004 9:51 AM |  |  
									| i must agree with Brain of G, Franz Ferdinand is pure rubbish. Their songs have no substanse, nothing new, repetiation of the same chord about four hundred times. Look at Take me Out. Plus their image annoys me, they look like four Gary Nevilles with less personality. |  
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					| flagman Basic Member Posts:150   
							
								
									| 7/21/2004 10:00 AM |  |  
									| quote:Originally posted by El Duderino
 Alot of his tunes (to me) sound like they shouldn't work on the first listen but once you've gotten into it, it's very hard to fault. A truly unique act in my opinion
 
 
That's exactly it isn't it?
I stuck on 'A Grand Don't Come For Free' for the first time and I'm there thinking, what's he doing, singing about bringing back DVD's??
But then it all falls into place. 
He is a fantastic writer and artist. 
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									| 7/21/2004 10:03 AM |  |  
									| his use of words is brill. He has a real understaning on how to make a sentance "work" |  
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					| Dromed Advanced Member Posts:900   
							
								
									| 7/21/2004 12:08 PM |  |  
									| Binokular I agree Basement Jaxx should defo win...they've been an innovative force in dance music and crossed several genres cleverly. Kish Kash is a masterpiece and a fantastically well put together album. For a band to be so eclectic, work with so many different artists and yet still maintain their distinct sound and not let it dilute their music is amazing. It is certainly about time they were credited for that. The Zutons would get my second choice without a doubt. |  
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					| mutch Basic Member Posts:392   
							
								
									| 7/21/2004 12:38 PM |  |  
									| i've heard a few zutons releases on mtv2, i like it, for some reason they remind me of rocket from the crypt without loud guitars,
am i mad ted? that post modern thing like,
its good though, the videos are top |  
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					| Gar Veteran Member Posts:1676   
							
								
									| 7/21/2004 11:30 PM |  |  
									| Their album is really impresisve and addictive. Plus they played a stomping set at Oxegen. Vote for The Zutons. |  
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					| El Duderino Basic Member Posts:179   
							
								
									| 7/22/2004 11:43 AM |  |  
									| quote:Originally posted by cheesy
 Plus their image annoys me, they look like four Gary Nevilles with less personality.
 
 
I think this has to be the best description I've ever heard for Franz Ferdinand. Kudos to you cheesy |  
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					| Rev Jules Veteran Member Posts:1041   
							
								
									| 8/1/2004 1:53 AM |  |  
									| Regarding The Streets...
Sh*t But You Know It
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									| 8/3/2004 8:43 AM |  |  
									| here's the thing-
i'm in the states right now and here franz ferdinand haven't been so played out, haven't been splashed across every magazine cover on the stands, so i think some people may be having a case of overreaction to the hype. the album's good. NOT as good as the hype would have us believe, and not warranting their kitsch-factor, but it's good. there. whew.
same goes for the streets. Skinner made a damn fine album that''s very clearly a progression from the first. i think he's taking more chances, being more open and even vulnerable on this one
my vote's b&s (i assume dear catastrophe waitress got the nom?) for the sleeper win. and is there any way to cast a vote AGAINST joss stone? |  
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					| Rev Jules Veteran Member Posts:1041   
							
								
									| 8/3/2004 9:50 AM |  |  
									| Ok all,
here is a comprehensive list of all nominees and winners of the mercury music prize since its inception. You will notice alot of big names on the list such as U2, Coldplay, Oasis, Spice Girls (?) but these are not winners. Traditionally, the award goes to a sleeper, a record that has not been heavily promoted. Think Gomez for instance.
I wouldn't rule out Robert Wyatt whose albums was on of the 'records of the year' for Uncut magazine.
2004 nominations
(Winner annonced on 7th September) 
Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash 
Belle And Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress 
Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand 
Jamelia - Thank You 
Keane - Hopes And Fears 
Snow Patrol - Final Straw 
Joss Stone - The Soul Sessions 
The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free 
Ty - Upwards 
Amy Winehouse - Frank 
Robert Wyatt - Cuckooland 
The Zutons - Who Killed the Zutons 
2003 
Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner   WINNER 
Athlete - Vehicles and Animals 
Coldplay - A Rush Of Blood To The Head 
The Darkness - Permission to Land 
Floetry - Floetic 
Lemon Jelly - Lost Horizons 
Radiohead - Hail To The Thief 
The Thrills - So Much For The City 
Martina Topley-Bird - Quixotic 
Terri Walker - Untitled 
2002 
Ms. Dynamite - A Little Deeper   WINNER 
Guy Barker - Soundtrack 
The Bees - Sunshine Hit Me 
David Bowie - Heathen 
The Coral - The Coral 
Doves - The Last Broadcast 
Electric Soft Parade - Holes In The Wall 
Gemma Hayes - Night On My Side 
Beverley Knight - Who I Am 
Joanna MacGregor - Play 
Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me 
The Streets - Original Pirate Material 
2001 
PJ Harvey - Songs From The City, Stories From The Sea   WINNER 
Basement Jaxx - Rooty 
Elbow - Asleep At The Back 
Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain 
Gorillaz - Gorillaz 
Ed Harcourt - Here Be Monsters 
Tom Mcrae - Tom Mcrae 
Radiohead - Amnesiac 
Shusheela Ramen - Salt Rain 
Super Furry Animals - Rings Around The World 
Turin Brakes - The Optimist LP 
Zero 7 - Simple Things 
2000 
Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour Of Bewilderbeast   WINNER 
Richard Ashcroft - Alone With Everybody 
Coldplay - Parachutes 
M.J. Cole - Sincere 
Death In Vegas - The Contino Sessions 
The Delgados - The Great Eastern 
Doves - Lost Souls 
Helicopter Girl - How To Steal The World 
Leftfield - Rhythm And Stealth 
Nicholas Maw - Violin Concerto 
Nitin Sawhney - Beyond Skin 
Kathryn Williams - Little Black Numbers 
1999 
Talvin Singh - OK   WINNER 
Thomas Adès - Asyla 
Denys Baptiste - Be Where You Are 
Blur - 13 
Black Star Liner - Bengali Bantam Youth Experience 
Chemical Brothers - Surrender 
Faithless - Sunday 8pm 
Manic Street Preachers - This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours 
Beth Orton - Central Reservation 
Kate Rusby - Sleepless 
Stereophonics - Performance and Cocktails 
Underworld - Beacoup Fish 
1998 
Gomez - Bring It On   WINNER 
Asian Dub Foundation - Rafi's Revenge 
Eliza Carthy - Red Rice 
Catatonia - International Velvet 
Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 
4-Hero - Two Pages 
Massive Attack - Mezzanine 
Propellerheads - Decksandrumsandrockandroll 
Pulp - This Is Hardcore 
John Surman - Proverbs & Songs 
The Verve - Urban Hymns 
Robbie Williams - Life Thru A Lens 
1997 
Roni Size/Reprazent - New Forms   WINNER 
The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole 
Mark-Anthony - Turnage Your Rockaby 
Beth Orton - Trailer Park 
Primal Scream - Vanishing Point 
The Prodigy - The Fat Of The Land 
Radiohead - OK Computer 
The Spice Girls - Spice 
Suede - Coming Up 
John Taverner - Svyati 
1996 
Pulp - Different Class   WINNER 
Artists for War Child - Help 
Black Grape - It's Great When You're Straight 
Fire / Caroline - Mathilde 
Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go 
Peter Maxwell Davies/The BBC Philharmonic - The Beltane 
Mark Morrison - Return of the Mack 
Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory? 
Courtney Pine - Modern Day Jazz Stories 
Norma Waterson - Norma Waterson 
Underworld - Second Toughest In The Infants 
1995 
Portishead - Dummy   WINNER 
Guy Barker - Into The Blue 
Elastica - Elastica 
PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love 
Leftfield - Leftism 
James MacMillan - Seven Last Words From The Cross 
Van Morrison - Days Like This 
Oasis - Definitely Maybe 
Supergrass - I Should Coco 
Tricky - Maxinquaye 
1994 
M People - Elegant Slumming   WINNER 
Blur - Parklife 
Ian McNabb - Head Like A Rock 
Shara Nelson - What Silence Knows 
Michael Nyman - The Piano Concerto and MGV 
The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation 
Pulp - His 'n' Hers 
Take That - Everything Changes 
Therapy? - Troublegum 
Paul Weller - Wild Wood 
1993 
Suede - Suede   WINNER 
Apache Indian - No Reservations 
The Auteurs - New Wave 
Gavin Bryars - Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet 
Dina Carroll - So Close 
P.J. Harvey - Rid Of Me 
New Order - Republic 
Stereo MC's - Connected 
Sting - Ten Summoner's Tales 
Stan Tracey - Portraits Plus 
1992 
Primal Scream - Screamadelica   WINNER 
Barry Adamson - Soul Murder 
Jesus & Mary Chain - Honey's Dead 
Bheki Mseleku - Celebration 
St Etienne - Foxbase Alpha 
Simply Red - Stars 
John Taverner & Steven Isserlis - The Protecting Veil 
U2 - Achtung Baby 
Jah Wobble - Rising Above Bedlam 
The Young Disciples - Road To Freedom 
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					| stephen Basic Member Posts:201   
							
								
									| 8/5/2004 10:00 AM |  |  
									| I think the Streets will win after missing out a few years back to Miss Dynamite (he should have won that year, let's face it). And much as I enjoy the second album, it's best tune Dry Your Eyes is the only one that compares to Stay Positive, Turn The Page or Weak Become Heroes.
Sympathy vote an' all... |  
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