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Last Post 4/22/2006 10:16 PM by  elmo95
An Industry Question....
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4/22/2006 10:16 PM
    this one's for all of those with connections within ze biz. just wondering what is the best way to go around getting a job as a writer (not to mention some directions on writing) in music - gigs reviews and such. I have worked the menial end of gigs i.e. local crews for roundshire and corporate stuff, but that isn't much of a means to any ends. I know Una works for the tribune, does anyone else have some advice or is it just question of knowing the right person?
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    4/22/2006 11:23 PM
    start small. Write for as many outlets as possible - websites, zines, your own blog. Write as much as possible. The more you do, the more you get. The breaks will come.
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    4/23/2006 4:33 PM
    Write as much as possible and read as much as possible. The only way to get in. Be prepared to work for free/peanuts and just keep going. There is a certain element of luck involved but as I'm sure you have heard, you make your own luck. Try to some work experience. Again, probably have to work for free but its a good way of getting your name out there. And develop a thick skin
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    4/24/2006 1:42 PM
    who do you write for nerraw? actually, what are people's jobs? People on Cluas, I mean. Not everyone in general. Obviously.
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    4/24/2006 3:37 PM
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    who do you write for nerraw? actually, what are people's jobs? People on Cluas, I mean. Not everyone in general. Obviously.
    Una, the census was yesterday.
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    4/24/2006 4:26 PM
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    who do you write for nerraw? actually, what are people's jobs? People on Cluas, I mean. Not everyone in general. Obviously.
    I write for a few different publications. None really music related. I write regularly for Mongrel, then work for a few of the national and sunday papers. Mainly news, but trying to get off my arse and write features instead.
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    4/24/2006 4:32 PM
    aha. I like Mongrel. I must say when I was exclusively a music journo, I got bored of it very quickly. f**k, I forgot about the census. Will I go to jail?
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    4/24/2006 4:37 PM
    Mongrel is a good publication especially the yearly 'C' List. Conceivably you could go to jail but are more likely to be fined (anything up to 25,000). Some farmer in Carlow refused to fill it out in 2001 and they sent him to the big house for 2 weeks. His grounds were that the Census was flawed because it didn't recognise Ireland as consisting of 32 counties and therefore wasn't a census of the nation or some such. Anyway, he hasn't filled it in either. You’re in illustrious company. Don’t fill it in, see what happens and write a feature about it for the trib.
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    4/24/2006 4:40 PM
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    aha. I like Mongrel. I must say when I was exclusively a music journo, I got bored of it very quickly. f**k, I forgot about the census. Will I go to jail?
    Yeah I never really wanted to get into music journalism, good freebies and gigs etc but I would probably get bored v quickly. News is good craic most of the time.
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    4/24/2006 4:44 PM
    yes, news is fun, but there hasn't been a big story in a while which is boring me. Perhaps life will imitate art with this 'Fallout' thing. How does 'the man' find out you don't do your census? And what time are you meant to fill it out, because I was in the boozer until after 3 and they weren't filling out forms there. Do I now not exist?
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    4/24/2006 4:48 PM
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    yes, news is fun, but there hasn't been a big story in a while which is boring me. Perhaps life will imitate art with this 'Fallout' thing. How does 'the man' find out you don't do your census? And what time are you meant to fill it out, because I was in the boozer until after 3 and they weren't filling out forms there. Do I now not exist?
    Yeah we need a good explosion or high profile kidnapping. Heck, a famous cat stuck up a tree will do The man will find out because I'll write a story about a sun trib reporter openly flouting the law and boasting about it on the internet ;) No idea how they might catch you if technically you now don't exist.
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    4/24/2006 4:50 PM
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    yes, news is fun, but there hasn't been a big story in a while which is boring me. Perhaps life will imitate art with this 'Fallout' thing. How does 'the man' find out you don't do your census? And what time are you meant to fill it out, because I was in the boozer until after 3 and they weren't filling out forms there. Do I now not exist?
    Its where you spend the night of 23 April not where you are resident etc. If they dropped in a form to your abode and it is not collected they will keep calling back or start writing to you. check out www.cso.ie. Re Fallout, hopefully life doesn't imitate art, if it does the census, the Loose, Pete Doherty and the new Glen solo album will be the least of our worries. As an aside I laughed when I read the phrases 'news is good craic' and 'news is good fun'.
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    4/24/2006 4:53 PM
    I'm not boasting about it at all. Maybe one of my kind flatmates filled it out for me. The population of Munster is probably 3 judging by the amount of Red people in town last night. Not existing is fun.
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    4/24/2006 6:33 PM
    I thnk you should go on a crime spree then when the fuzz collar you just go "you can't touch me, I don't exist". Then step back and watch the copper's head explode.
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