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Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova win the Oscar
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2/25/2008 1:31 AM


    And here's their performance of the song on the night:
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    2/25/2008 2:46 AM
    Hooray, the cult of the Ginger One finally gets recognition from the scientolgist overlords!

    Surprisingly short speech too...



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    2/25/2008 3:05 AM
    apparently marketa was allowed back on to make a speech which went down extremely well....

    this is good news...

    ...seeing as i've got nothing out of the frames music for about the last 5 years, i've been hoping since then that they would eventually become a huge commercial success story...

    ...last night can't have hurt
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    2/25/2008 4:34 AM
    I always found the music of The Frames a little overwrought and heavy-handed but 'Once' is an absolute gem of a movie. They deserve it.

    It's hilarious to see everyone jumping on the Once bandwagon and proclaiming today to be great day for Ireland and Irish music when absolutely everyone ignored it when it came out in the cinema, including me.
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    2/25/2008 4:46 AM
    Posted By Quint on 25 Feb 2008 4:34 AM
    I always found the music of The Frames a little overwrought and heavy-handed but 'Once' is an absolute gem of a movie. They deserve it.

    It's hilarious to see everyone jumping on the Once bandwagon and proclaiming today to be great day for Ireland and Irish music when absolutely everyone ignored it when it came out in the cinema, including me.




    i still haven't seen the movie but i know i'm not a big fan of the music... i was in to their earlier stuff
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    2/25/2008 5:46 AM

    Went to see the movie on its limited release here.
    Thought it was okay, nothing amazing.
    Best song in it was a years old Frames tune, Say it to me Now.
    Not a big fan of the falling slowly song, but delighted for them both.
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    2/25/2008 6:47 AM
    Glen Hansard hangs out with Justin Timberlake...


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    2/27/2008 5:41 AM
    Fairplay to them both. In his own words. Its 'Mad'. Who would have seen GLEN HANSARD winning an oscar???
    Im delighted he will get some decent recognition after all his years of hard sloggin and hopefully it will do some good in creating further worldwide interest in The Frames too!
    Im certainly glad none of that Enchanted s**te won the award


    "Make Art, Make Art"
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    2/27/2008 5:48 AM
    I was looking through my fingers when he started saying 'Make Art, make art'. What the f**k? What does that even mean? But it was well-deserved and it's a great film.
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    2/27/2008 5:56 AM
    Posted By Quint on 27 Feb 2008 5:48 AM
    I was looking through my fingers when he started saying 'Make Art, make art'. What the f**k? What does that even mean? But it was well-deserved and it's a great film.




    Thank f**k Bono's never got an Oscar.. could you imagine the s**te he'd come out with?!?!
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    2/27/2008 10:27 AM
    Bono is a state of mind
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    2/27/2008 10:40 AM
    The Edge is a feeling.
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    2/27/2008 5:09 PM
    Jr Larry is the meaning
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    2/27/2008 7:12 PM
    It's interesting watching people's reactions to 'Falling Slowly' winning the oscar and to Hansard himself.
    I'm a musician here in Dublin and on hearing The Frames music over the years have never really been drawn to it. I simply found the songs rather unoriginal and formulaic. But I've never had any animosity toward Glen himself and we always had a few friendly words whenever we met. Unlike others who seem to be pathologically anti-Hansard. This, I assumed was the reason that not many, if any, of my contemporaries seemed bothered about going to see the film at all. One person even went to see how angry he could be made by Hansard's presumed narcissism of depicting his own 'incredible love experience' with a teenager, lol. But, of course, the facts are that Cillian Murphy was due to play the role initially.
    I never did see the film myself but I probably will at some point. But the song 'Falling Slowly' struck me as equally unoriginal and formulaic when I heard it first on the radio some weeks ago. I thought it was kind on the ears but I knew where the song was going from the first phrase as it's a common enough arrangement that alot of singer-songwriters stumble upon quite early on in their development. Usually, these generic love songs are discarded when the penny drops and they realise that all of their muso mates have one almost just like it. If not identical.
    So, I didn't hate it but the song didn't impress me for that reason. I was surprised that such an experienced songwriter would resort to this kind of 'instant weepy' tune. What did mystify me, however, was the R.E.M. verses. I thought, surely he's not going to fill in the gaps with a Michael Stipe impression? But, well, he did.
    Anyway, I have no beef with Glen or bone to pick with the film and the song can't help being what it is, (basically, a stock standard blub by numbers college girl consumer bait Damien Rice ditty), but I can't help feeling that as an oscar-winning tune it does not earn, merit or deserve the distinction of being placed alongside classics such as Bacharach's 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head'.
    I know it's my opinion, as such, but it's an event in irish music that's more than a little disturbing, I find.
    Lol, anyway, there you go. My two cent, cheers x
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    2/28/2008 2:17 AM
    at least one things bears out from what you have said... marketa wrote the melody for falling slowly when she was about 14 so you were certainly spot on when stating...

    "I thought it was kind on the ears but I knew where the song was going from the first phrase as it's a common enough arrangement that a lot of singer-songwriters stumble upon quite early on in their development"
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    Posted By Pala on 27 Feb 2008 7:12 PM
    It's interesting watching people's reactions to 'Falling Slowly' winning the oscar and to Hansard himself.
    I'm a musician here in Dublin and on hearing The Frames music over the years have never really been drawn to it. I simply found the songs rather unoriginal and formulaic. But I've never had any animosity toward Glen himself and we always had a few friendly words whenever we met. Unlike others who seem to be pathologically anti-Hansard. This, I assumed was the reason that not many, if any, of my contemporaries seemed bothered about going to see the film at all. One person even went to see how angry he could be made by Hansard's presumed narcissism of depicting his own 'incredible love experience' with a teenager, lol. But, of course, the facts are that Cillian Murphy was due to play the role initially.
    I never did see the film myself but I probably will at some point. But the song 'Falling Slowly' struck me as equally unoriginal and formulaic when I heard it first on the radio some weeks ago. I thought it was kind on the ears but I knew where the song was going from the first phrase as it's a common enough arrangement that alot of singer-songwriters stumble upon quite early on in their development. Usually, these generic love songs are discarded when the penny drops and they realise that all of their muso mates have one almost just like it. If not identical.
    So, I didn't hate it but the song didn't impress me for that reason. I was surprised that such an experienced songwriter would resort to this kind of 'instant weepy' tune. What did mystify me, however, was the R.E.M. verses. I thought, surely he's not going to fill in the gaps with a Michael Stipe impression? But, well, he did.
    Anyway, I have no beef with Glen or bone to pick with the film and the song can't help being what it is, (basically, a stock standard blub by numbers college girl consumer bait Damien Rice ditty), but I can't help feeling that as an oscar-winning tune it does not earn, merit or deserve the distinction of being placed alongside classics such as Bacharach's 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head'.
    I know it's my opinion, as such, but it's an event in irish music that's more than a little disturbing, I find.
    Lol, anyway, there you go. My two cent, cheers x





    To summarise = the song is s**t.
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    2/28/2008 2:54 AM
    Posted By Pala on 27 Feb 2008 7:12 PM
    but I can't help feeling that as an oscar-winning tune it does not earn, merit or deserve the distinction of being placed alongside classics such as Bacharach's 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head'.




    It's better than "My Heart Will Go On" though. Not that that's saying much.
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    2/28/2008 3:07 AM
    Posted By Unicron on 28 Feb 2008 2:54 AM
    Posted By Pala on 27 Feb 2008 7:12 PM
    but I can't help feeling that as an oscar-winning tune it does not earn, merit or deserve the distinction of being placed alongside classics such as Bacharach's 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head'.




    It's better than "My Heart Will Go On" though. Not that that's saying much.




    i'm not sure it really is, you know...

    that song has become one of the most iconic movie songs of all time... it is very memorable, whether you like it or not...

    ...falling slowly is very simple, middle of the road and without a memorable moment... and that's coming from someone who was a big fan of the frames music in their golden period of '98 to '02...

    but this debate is a bit pointless... songs nominated for oscars vary in quality enormously... and the quality has nothing to do with whether they are nominated or win...
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    2/28/2008 3:21 AM
    The Belfast Operatic Company do a musical production of "Titanic" (currently being perfomed in Ballinarobe if yr interested!). 1,520 people perished in the sinking which ranks as one of the worst peacetime maritime disasters in history - and they make a f**king musical out of it?!?!?

    What next - '9/11, The Musical' ? People falling from the windows of skyscrapers to a chorus of R.Kelly's "I Believe I Can Fly"?
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    2/28/2008 3:34 AM
    Posted By starbelgrade on 28 Feb 2008 3:21 AM
    The Belfast Operatic Company do a musical production of "Titanic" (currently being perfomed in Ballinarobe if yr interested!). 1,520 people perished in the sinking which ranks as one of the worst peacetime maritime disasters in history - and they make a f**king musical out of it?!?!?

    What next - '9/11, The Musical' ? People falling from the windows of skyscrapers to a chorus of R.Kelly's "I Believe I Can Fly"?




    gavin bryars wrote an excellent extended piece / album called 'the sinking of the titanic'... you should look it out...

    ...i don't think there's anything at all wrong with writing a musical about a tragic event... that aside, this particular event was 96 years ago anyway...
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