I for one think it would be great idea and fair play to you again for organising the first one , I personally had a ball !! So go for it ! I'll definately buy a few tickets it was great to show that not only big promoters can have a gig in the olympia

I'm too young for the last one but it sounds good. I'd buy a ticket to it...who played the last time?

I'm just being ultra cynical Karl but I wouldn't find it much of a shock if Codes were on last if it did go ahead.

I would definitely have Codes high up the bill of course I would. I think if I am taking the financial burden on all of this then i think thats fair enough & would have no qualms about it at all.

Jove, Alphastates, 66e, Delorentos, Karl Vincent & Jenny Lindfors were on the bill in 2005 The_Pen15.

Lets not get side tracked on this again. Loud & Clear was used initially for two reasons.

(1) To rasie the profile of Jove at the time
(2) To raise the profile of not just the bands but also the up-coming scene in a slightly different manner.

Nothing cynical in my motives about this night nor this concept at all.

I was at the first one. The idea in theory and the intentions were pretty admirable and sincere;however i do recall that virtually ALL the music press (i.e hotpress and many newspapers) refused to advertise it didnt they? given that it was independantly promoted? Thats just Ireland and the middle aged students that run the U2 Loving s**te that is CrapPress I guess....

And afterwards, very few wrote and published reviews? I do remember that the night itself was a success in that the bands got to play in the olympia and hundreds showed up...the standard was really good..

However, i think the reality is this; promotion of gigs is a royal pain in the arse for which the costs in terms of time allocation, financial costs and benefits there of really dont add up at the end. Ultimately unless it is done in conjunction with a label as a development showcase of sorts; where a&r guys show up to watch 7/8 groups play or the whole thing was at least semi financed by someone in main stream media....it probably wouldnt be any different to any other gig except it would cost 5 grand....

What you could do, and this is probably really cynical..is take a band, from scratch...document them for six months....gig them around the country....pitch it to a tv station to follow them around...finishing in a big gig supporting an established band...

but that maybe defeats the whole purpose i dunno





Gigs are organised every other weekend and the folks organising them do it for the love of new music....

Heres an idea; perhaps run a gig on the same night as a

i was also at the first one. pretty much agree with parton; it's a nice idea in theory but in practise the opportunity and exposure was grabbed by an audience who were already tuned into those bands and that scene and the lack of cooperation from the media hierarchy didn't help matters. i don't remember anyone who wouldn't already attend gigs by local bands on a regular basis saying their opinion of the irish music scene had changed on the basis of that event and that i thought was a shame. if this were a wholly new idea it might have had more chance of impact but there's been numerous eclectic and admirable efforts over the last five years to raise the profile of unsigned/independent irish music and individual bands from the small scale (free TBMC noise parties, IMRO showcases) to festival level (Wonky, HWCH) and i think in order for it to truly be something which shakes up the established order and the monopoly of big promoters you'd need one hell of a lineup. people would need to go and think these bands are WORTH seeing on the stage of the olympia not "oh look, isn't it lovely they rented out the olympia". perhaps the majority of code/jove/etc's audiences do think like that but for the rest of us, the money could probably be spent better on developing those bands to a level where they are more then capable of playing (and with all due respect, filling to capacity) such big gigs, not as some sort of well-intended but ultimately sadly negligable exercise in Doing Things A New and More Fair Way. the gig itself as far as i can remember had some great performances but others seemed lost in those surroundings. the only band i thought transformed by their environment were delorentos who had improved many times over from the past time i'd seen them and actually seemed to suit that large a stage. other plus points were it seemed very well organised and was surprised by how pleasant security etc. were being to those in the crowd, it definitely contributed to a relaxed atmosphere. i'm sure it did help jove's profile but if you're hoping to repeat that with codes and the other bands you manage, i think you'll need something more up your sleeve then just renting out the olympia. hopefully the likes of hotpress etc will be a little more supportive this time round for starters...

best of luck with the second one anyway, i'll be attending it with interest