Archie Basic Member Posts:458  
| 1/30/2006 6:59 PM |
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Just continuing Gar's crusade of getting discussion going on the new reviews on Cluas....off ye go.
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Binokular Veteran Member Posts:1665
| 1/30/2006 8:29 PM |
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I hope Eoghan doesn't mind me mentioning that these are among the first CDs that Cluas got as record company freebies rather writers reviewing their own purchases and already it see more balanced reviews. I mean if I were to actually get a fit of motivation and review Ladytrons most recent album, of course it's gonna get a good review, I liked it enough to part with my own cash. In fact I'd probably give it a ridiculously high score because I reckon "Witching hour" was the best album of 2005 bar none (MBV dreampop noise meets vintage synths and crystaline female vocals, what's not to like?).
Archie - you wrote the Killing Joke Review? (I get mixed up whose board alias is who in "real life", I on the other hand exist only in surreal life and am therfore always Binokular  ). I thought it was a good, to the point, totally honest review, dealing purely with how you felt about the music and not being influenced by a bands reputation and attempting just to look clever like so many music writers. At the same time I can't help feeling this album might have been better reviewed by someone slightly more predisposed to hardcore punk/industrial (just don't get the impression you are, might be wrong). That's in no way a criticism. It more raises the question, is it better to have an album reviewed by someone who doesn't normally listen to certain type of music and get an objective "outsider" review or to have it reviewed by someone who is already really into that kind of music (and therefore probably has more in common with the those who are reading the review with a view to purchasing the album) and get a more sympathetic review as a result?
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Thomas Walsh New Member Posts:48
| 1/31/2006 8:47 AM |
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I agree with Binokular. I really enjoyed the review of my record by Dromed. Of course of course of course there are a few things I'd like to set right because questions were asked, and who better to answer them than the geezer that what writ it, me.
Sentimentality.....?
Guilty. I made an album that reflected the fact that I AM 36 and you do take stock of "life" when you hit such giddy heights and do you know what Dromed, the album will make a lot more sense when you get there (I'm assuming you're only a slip of a lass??). Not to say an 18 year old wouldn't "get" JOLLITY because my fan-base at gigs is right across the board so there's hope.....
The Deeper meaning.....?
There is a very deeper meaning on this record and I respect Dromed for sussing this out. "Black Dog" is simply about death and depression (It's PARTY time!!  and by writing that song I got a lot of stuff sorted in the brain-box so that's my therapy, it's the way I do it and hopefully someone may latch onto that too.
"Those silly billys........." lyrics?
Guilty but with a disclaimer!! I wrote a "Lullaby" for a new-born baby (Jodie) never intending to record it let alone record it for release, but after hearing it Dave Gregory (XTC) said he'd love to arrange a vintage mellotron part for it and he did, and it blew me away, so I said f**k IT why can't I release this, it slots in between the 3rd last track and the last track "Anchor" perfectly. So I did put it on.
And the "Silly billys....." bit? Twas' some of the first words out of her mouth as well as the fact that whenever I or anyone else said it she'd burst out laughing. So the lyric STAYED!! 
Anyway, thanks for the honest and well written review Cluas and Dromed but hey 6 and a half out of 10.....?
b****x!!
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Mully Advanced Member Posts:849
| 1/31/2006 9:36 AM |
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Thom, if I may call you that ?!?
You mentioned before that Pugwash go under the name MIA in the States. I was recently talking about this with Klootfan, & we were just wondering why you dont change the moniker in Ireland to match.
I understand that you have a Pugwash fanbase here, but if things took off for you guys Internationally, would it not make sense ?
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| 1/31/2006 10:18 AM |
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There's an artist called MIA in the UK, she made a good name for herself last year,played glastonbury etc etc was also nominated for the mercury music prize
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palaceBasic Member Posts:392
| 1/31/2006 10:21 AM |
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i'm not sure how to take those last two posts?...  |
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| 1/31/2006 10:27 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by palace
i'm not sure how to take those last two posts?...
Ok I prob should have prefaced my post with "not that he'll ever have to worry but...." just saw the MIA and instantly thought of yer one is all |
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palaceBasic Member Posts:392
| 1/31/2006 10:34 AM |
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ah... you know...
if mully was making a joke, then it was hidden pretty well... if he / she wasn't, then it's actually funnier... you obviously took him / her at face value anyway, mar...
i was just being flippant
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palaceBasic Member Posts:392
| 1/31/2006 11:06 AM |
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so mar, you just edited your previous post and then removed the very last one, making my answer seem irrelevant and confusing...
the power of technology, i tell ya...
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MullyAdvanced Member Posts:849
| 1/31/2006 11:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by palace
ah... you know...
if mully was making a joke, then it was hidden pretty well... if he / she wasn't, then it's actually funnier...
No joke making.
By 'Pugwash fanbase here' I meant in Ireland, not on this forum.
Does this help the confusion ?
I'm a 'he' btw. |
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| 1/31/2006 11:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by palace
so mar, you just edited your previous post and then removed the very last one, making my answer seem irrelevant and confusing...
the power of technology, i tell ya...
indeed, jus thought i was over-explaining myself making mountains out of molehills so deleted it, at least we are all now aware of the existence of another MIA should the confusion ever arise  |
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DromedAdvanced Member Posts:900
| 1/31/2006 2:43 PM |
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Hi Thomas,
As soon as i put on the album, I could tell straight away that there was a lot of love put in to it and that there were some personal and genuinely heartfelt sentiments there. The 18 year mark is a distant memory for me (!!) and I am a parent to boot, so I'm not opposed to a bit of sentimentality here and there...but my own record buying tends towards the heavier side of things, so the record wasn't entirely my cup of tea. I'm a big Air fan (and Beck, Kinks, Crosby Stills and Nash, all of which you can hear touches off throughout the record) and I could here some of that in the album. I hate using other bands as a reference cos it comes across as lazy journalism, but at the end of the day while it might not be the kind of thing I'd necessarily be into I'm sure others would, so to use some musical references gives readers an idea of what the sound might be like. I've often looked up/bought albums on similar references. The marking I gave the album is based only on my opinion.
In going back to the earlier point made...I'd totally agree that receiving albums from the site to review (as opposed to reviewing those you have already bought and presumably have a love for) is far more intersting to read about.
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ArchieBasic Member Posts:458
| 1/31/2006 9:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Binokular
Archie - you wrote the Killing Joke Review? (I get mixed up whose board alias is who in "real life", I on the other hand exist only in surreal life and am therfore always Binokular ). I thought it was a good, to the point, totally honest review, dealing purely with how you felt about the music and not being influenced by a bands reputation and attempting just to look clever like so many music writers. At the same time I can't help feeling this album might have been better reviewed by someone slightly more predisposed to hardcore punk/industrial (just don't get the impression you are, might be wrong). That's in no way a criticism. It more raises the question, is it better to have an album reviewed by someone who doesn't normally listen to certain type of music and get an objective "outsider" review or to have it reviewed by someone who is already really into that kind of music (and therefore probably has more in common with the those who are reading the review with a view to purchasing the album) and get a more sympathetic review as a result?
Binokular darling, indeed it was me, but you have me all wrong I'm afraid! I am quite, as you put it, "predisposed to hardcore punk/industrial" - as evidence, I would quote my praising of same in my Heavy metal op-ed, the fact that many of my most played CDs would fall under such a heading, and the fact that I play guitar (and sing, though only through necessity) in a band, in whose music is featured much of the above! Just thought I'd say.... Just wondering what would have made you think otherwise? I do have an extremely varied music taste, you see..... |
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Thomas WalshNew Member Posts:48
| 2/1/2006 2:31 AM |
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Nice to hear from you Dromed even though ya' didn't have ta'.....
Just to clear something up, I was being sarcastic, flippant, a prick, either way I was joking when referencing that PUGWASH had changed their name to MIA in America.
It was a bit of harmless fun. I'm off now to slap my wrists and continue working on my newest project with the current band name - Pradiohead.....(The "P" is silent).
TW. |
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MullyAdvanced Member Posts:849
| 2/1/2006 9:12 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Walsh
I was joking when referencing that PUGWASH had changed their name to MIA in America.
Ahh, I get jokes. |
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
| 2/1/2006 6:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Archie
Binokular darling, indeed it was me, but you have me all wrong I'm afraid! I am quite, as you put it, "predisposed to hardcore punk/industrial" - as evidence, I would quote my praising of same in my Heavy metal op-ed, the fact that many of my most played CDs would fall under such a heading, and the fact that I play guitar (and sing, though only through necessity) in a band, in whose music is featured much of the above! Just thought I'd say.... Just wondering what would have made you think otherwise? I do have an extremely varied music taste, you see.....
I dunno, just a general impression I guess. I mean just because someone likes metal doesn't mean they'll like hardcore punk or industrial, in fact I find a lot of metal fans don't. They're all noisy genres but quite different in their own way, e.g. compare Metallica with Black Flag or KMFDM. Anyway, I still got ya pegged wrong, sorry! |
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ArchieBasic Member Posts:458
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