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Last Post 18 May 2005 04:49 PM by WhoMe. 29 Replies.
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23 May 2005 08:19 PM
i havent heard anything bout this, is this the jim carroll who writes for the irish times cause if it is id fully endorse it, hes very critical but very honest, love reading his columns...
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23 May 2005 08:31 PM
Hey Pilchard fair enough, point taken. We are just protecting our own integrity at any cost, the invitation still stands to submit a review.....
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23 May 2005 09:22 PM
what was/is muse.ie?
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23 May 2005 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Pilchard
at least the reviews wont be done by band members or hired help.
While I won't be drawn into discussions over the actual review in question, I do find the above comment unfair towards Cluas as an entity and its writers as individuals. It suggests that we have a low standard of editorial and final written copy and that is simply not true.
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24 May 2005 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Rev Jules While I won't be drawn into discussions over the actual review in question, I do find the above comment unfair towards Cluas as an entity and its writers as individuals. It suggests that we have a low standard of editorial and final written copy and that is simply not true.
I never set out to damn Cluas - I wouldnt be posting here as regularly as I am if I had little regard or respect for it. I think Cluas is a fantastic entity and resource and a fabulous way of finding out about new music (before u then go away and check it out for yourself). However u cannot escape the fact that a review was submitted by someone who had worked with the band and was then published. If this happened on another site or magazine, we would all be crying foul about it. We would be howling about favourtism and bias and questioning the bona fides of the site and the writer. We would climb onto the high moral ground and howl like wolves in heat. A publication rises or falls on its reputation and I'm afraid Cluas has slipped somewhat in my estimation because of this and, judging by the reaction to this thread, I am not alone.
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24 May 2005 09:13 AM
relax te be jaysus the lot o' yis
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24 May 2005 09:14 AM
I've just come across this thread after having been absent from the discussion board a while due to some distraction on other fronts. First up, it was I who published Darragh’s Urges review to the site. Had I, at the time of publishing it, known he had done their website I would have taken the precautionary step of not publishing it. Knowing it now I will remove the review from the website tonight. I do think it was an error of judgement – something we are all occasionally guilty of - that Darragh forgot to declare to me his involvement with the band’s website. However I’d like to take the opportunity to make it absolutely clear that: 1) I believe Darragh presented this review in good faith and I don’t think he was trying to pull a fast one. Some may consider me naïve but I believe he genuinely forgot to mention his work on the Urges website to me; 2) I think it is a balanced, well-written review (and a shining light of balanced reviewing compared to some reviews that have come this way, such as this classic one from a few months back: http://www.cluas.com/discussion/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3998 ) 3) I appreciate the immediate - and completely transparent manner - with which Darragh discussed this issue once it was initially raised by ‘WhoMe’ 4) I have always appreciated Darragh’s writing for CLUAS and I look forward to many more submissions from him in the future. On a more general note, I have always considered (and will always consider) the integrity and credibility of what is published on CLUAS a number 1 priority. We won’t always get it 100%, so expect (and allow us) the occasional unintended and minor slip-up. All I promise is that when any slip up does happen, it will be rectified ASAP. eoghan PS – as for those who pointed out that they thought the frequency of updates of reviews on the site is less then they would like, I couldn’t agree more. The last while the site has not been updated by me as often as I would have liked but there has been good reason for that. The coming weeks will see more frequent updates as I get back into the groove. I have a pile of reviews to get through. And an OpEd as well to get on the site. Cheers for the patience. And if anybody is complaining about the frequency of updates to the site I propose they put their time into submitting a review and helping the site on that front.
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24 May 2005 09:46 AM
fair play eoghan - u have put your hand up and said it like it is on this one without fudging any of the issues involved. p
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24 May 2005 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Mully When I first started reading this site, there was new articles & reviews being posted on a weekly basis, but in the last year/18mths this has slowed considerably 3)Submit something for publication!"
I think you answered your own question
Yeah, I was waiting for that. Not sure what my old english teacher would say.
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24 May 2005 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by eoghan
such as this classic one from a few months back: http://www.cluas.com/discussion/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3998 )
I had forgotten how priceless that one was ('like a poem in a deep lake') - thanks for that, captain the site could have a special section for these types of reviews (names deleted, of course), like our little 'poet's corner' - and maybe then we could even vote for the best one and send it to the "eurovision song-reviewing contest" to compete against supermodel-looking eastern european reviews.. okay, enough of that, back to work
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