5/25/2005 5:47 PM |
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oh my god whats the deal with oxegen? It gets worse every year, I mean the irish stage is always the f**king same, the frames(didn't they say last year they would NEVER do it again!?), paddy casey and usual suspects. Most of this years acts played last year.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
5/25/2005 6:02 PM |
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Keane are a f*cking atrocity of a band with no redeeming features what so ever. They make insipid bland music which is totally void of any point or purpose. They should have been drowned at birth.
The futureheads how ever are class live (I saw them in Cork on Friday) and have just confirmed themselves for Oxegen. Yay!
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MullyAdvanced Member Posts:849
5/26/2005 8:42 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by elle
oh my god whats the deal with oxegen? It gets worse every year, I mean the irish stage is always the f**king same
What 'irish stage' ?
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benniAdvanced Member Posts:947
5/26/2005 8:55 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by stroller
The futureheads how ever are class live (I saw them in Cork on Friday) and have just confirmed themselves for Oxegen. Yay!
Oh the jealousy... I f**kin love that band man. Seen a few performances of them live on TV but couldnt make it on sat as I was Djing... and I had a s**t night too so I was extremely pissed off! Was there any support? Good reaction etc?
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
5/26/2005 9:06 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by elle
oh my god whats the deal with oxegen? It gets worse every year
Once again I ask...could one of the people who think this years oxegen listing is crap, please come up with an alternative listing, even say 10/15 bands that they would have playing, bearing in mind that this is a music festival for all types of music listeners and not just a festival for small relatively unknown irish bands largely supported by fellow class mates from college.
And no, i dont have a thing against small relatively unknown irish bands as ive spent years going to gigs in ireland to see bands of all shapes and sizes.
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spurtacusBasic Member Posts:229
5/26/2005 12:36 PM |
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nevermind them they're all talkin ballix, music snobbery if ye ask me! Away with the lot o' yis to a World Music festival where the main attractions are Space Jazz and some bloke who does a mean rubben chicken solo
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
5/26/2005 2:02 PM |
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quote:
Once again I ask...could one of the people who think this years oxegen listing is crap, please come up with an alternative listing, even say 10/15 bands that they would have playing, bearing in mind that this is a music festival for all types of music listeners and not just a festival for small relatively unknown irish bands largely supported by fellow class mates from college.
Here's just a few acts that are playing gigs and festivals in Ireland and Europe this summer who have not been confirmed for this years Oxegen festival;
Kings of Leon
The Pixies
Iggy & The Stooges
Devendra Banhart
Brian Wilson
Franz Ferdinand
Sonic Youth
The White Stripes
The Zutons
The Bees
Babyshambles
Weezer
Beck
The Coral
Rufus Wainwright
Tom Vek
Secret Machines
Ryan Adams
Sons and Daughters
The Arcade Fire
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
The Flaming Lips
Yo La Tengo
Joanna Newsom
British Sea Power
Eels
Morrissey
Antony and the Johnsons
Phoenix
Supergrass
Dinosaur Jr
The Roots
Royksopp
DJ Format featuring Abdominal and D-Sisive
2 Many DJs
Chemical Brothers
Roots Manuva
High Contrast
Krafty Kutz
Felix da Housecat
Tiga
Tiefschwarz
Four Tet
Gilles Peterson
Andy Smith
Buck 65
Ladytron
Saul Williams
Basement Jaxx
De La Soul
Khonnor
Rahzel
Alter Ego
The Go! Team
Erol Alkan
The Glimmers
Mr Scruff
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
5/26/2005 2:48 PM |
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Underworld
Mylo (i know he;s playing oxegen too, but f**k it)
U2
Common
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
5/26/2005 5:25 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Una
Underworld
Mylo (i know he;s playing oxegen too, but f**k it)
U2
Common
Common now playing Spirit on Jul 5 - for all the hip-hop playas on the list who have cropped up of late!
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
5/27/2005 12:00 AM |
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can you like hip-hop and not be a playa?
or more importantly, can you be a playa and not like hip-hop?
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
5/27/2005 12:08 AM |
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Knowledge, wisdom and understanding brings long life and health, think anything else and ya playin yaself.
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MullyAdvanced Member Posts:849
5/27/2005 9:01 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Una
can you like hip-hop and not be a playa?
or more importantly, can you be a playa and not like hip-hop?
That makes you a playa-hater ...
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
5/27/2005 10:37 AM |
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Stroller,nothing wrong with the list you provided, all fine bands. However, i doubt they would catch the imagination of the general public, which a music festival of this size has to do to make it a success.
If you think of the festival in terms of value for money, i dont think anyone could argue but that the line up that oxegen offers is anything other then great value for money.
As for the lineup itself. No line up is going to suit everyone. And even if you dont like some of the bands listed, you should be able to acknowledge that although they might not be your cuppa tea, the festival has lined up a large selection of internationally acclaimed bands to play this year, more then any other year in my opinion, and at the end of the day, they deserve credit for that.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
5/27/2005 2:01 PM |
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That list wasn't meant to be an alterative line up, it was meant to be a list of possible additions. I realise that you need bland but commercially successful bands in order to shift tickets. However the organisers usually find at least 20 decent international bands to keep the heads happy. This year there seems to be precious few decent bands and a vast excess of lowest common denominator unit shifters. At the moment I'm struggling to find ten bands that I really want to see on this years line up.
Last year the following bands kept the five albums a year brigade happy; Scissor Sisters, N*E*R*D, Snow Patrol, The Killers, Razorlight, The Darkness, Faithless, Pink, Black Eyed Peas, Muse, Keane and Ocean Colour Scene. The rednecks were happy and the gig sold out.
Yet the organisers still managed to squeeze in the following; The Cure, The Strokes, Kings of Leon, PJ Harvey, Franz Ferdinand, Massive Attack, The Rapture, Orbital, Belle & Sebastian, The Chemical Brothers, Sons & Daughters, The Libertines, Wu-Tang Clan, Jimmy Cliff, Wilco, Felix Da Housecat, Basement Jaxx, Mylo, The Shins and Buck 65. The real music fans were spoilt for choice and everyone was a winner.
I’m sorry but last years line up sh*t’s all over this years. So until the organisers sort themselves out and add at least 10-15 decent bands to the bill they don't deserve any credit because they’re failing to match the standards they’ve already set for themselves.
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
5/27/2005 2:48 PM |
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i think stroller's probably right. the fact is the gig is still not sold out - just like coldplay, people are holding back until theyre sure. With coldplay, they want to hear the album and hear for themselves. with oxegen, they want to see what else we're getting besides a blurry photocopy of the T in the Park line-up. T sold out but then theres no competition outdoor festivalwise in scotland. here, its the picnic which might steal Oxegen's thunder this year cos the line-up is class.
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
5/27/2005 2:59 PM |
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Yeah, the picnic is looking pretty enticing...the sat of it anyway ( for me that is )
but its a tad expensive all the same
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
5/27/2005 3:23 PM |
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Stroller, re. the Killers, Oxegen was before it really took of for them last year so they were aimed more at the "in the know" audience and I thought they played a fantastic set. This was before I got bored of them of course.
The Killers backlash: They're just crap, they became popular, or it's a patchy album with about 4 super tunes but the rest is weak and as a whole doesn't strand up to repeated listens?
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Norman SchwarzkopfBasic Member Posts:427
5/27/2005 4:20 PM |
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Personally, I havent listened to the album in quite a while, mainly due to overexposure. Dont think they're crap at all, album has some really good songs, several weaker ones. The OC connection is annoying mainly due to the show being so f**king annoying.
I reckon if they hadnt blown up like they have, people would be giving them the benefit of the doubt due to the great singles. Now they're "too popular", those weak points leave em prime for slagging.
I saw em in Olympia and it was good show.
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PunchbowlBasic Member Posts:205
5/30/2005 10:40 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by klootfan
Punchbowl, Id love to see a suggested line up from you keeping in mind that the people who wish to attend the festival want big international acts mixed in with local and new talent
The important thing is here is not that I'm against Oxygen and want it to fail but that the quality of music is poor. This firstly is a reaction to my personal music tastes and I fully expect some people to think it's a great line up. I suppose you can look at like this. It's an ultra safe line up. More Golden Discs than Road Records.
It's also very slight when it comes to Irish acts. Obviously, it's a mirror festival for others in the UK but a bit of localising might of been appropriate ( Frames excluded ). I would personally love to see God is an Astronaut, Jape, Connect Four Orchestra, Waiting Room, Dave Couse, Blink, Bell X1, David Kitt and Redneck Manifesto all playing, although I do appreciate more acts will be announced.
Oxeygen, like most Irish festivals will be a calamity. There'll be no quality of life for whoever goes as the location is entirely unsuitable and badly laid out ( usually ). The allocation of sanitary areas will be way off the mark and the beer will be hard to get, miles from the stages and very, very expensive. But what do I expect? Well, I would gladly suffer the shortcomings of a almost facist-like sponsored event to see an artist I believe to be worth it. As I say, New Order are a good band, but I wouldn't get my boots dirty to see them.
So, a challenge. What would I like to see..??
Main and Second Stage acts ( In no order )
Grandaddy
Kraftwerk
Deus
Mercury Rev
Nada Surf
Arcade Fire
Go Betweens
Belle and Sebastian
Teenage Fanclub
Frank Black
Depeche Mode
Flaming Lips
Sebadoh
Ben Folds
Chemical Brothers
David Kitt
Fountains of Wayne
Interpol
Morrissey
Pernice Brothers
Dance and Electro Stage
Les Rythms Digitales
Notwist
Bjork
Postal Service
David Grubbs
Erland Oe
Mogwai
Karl Bartos
Ladytron
Mylo
LCD Soundsystem
Mice Parade
Bang Bang
DJ Shadow
New/Upcoming/Irish stage
Bright Eyes
Broken Social Scene
Death Cab for Cutie
The Walkmen
The National
Tom Vek
Joy Zipper
M83
Marc Carroll
Pony Club
Modest Mouse
The Shins
Go is an Astronaut
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
5/30/2005 10:50 AM |
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Pretty good line up there, could really argue with you on the list. Id love to catch a festival like that.
I think you hit it right on the nail, Oxegen is closer to Golden discs then Road Recs..and i think it always will if it is to perform well financially.
I think the Electric Picnic festival is closer to road then Oxegen
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