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17 Apr 2005 07:42 PM
    Anyone else out there feel their music tastes are not being catered to by music publications? NME: Once mighty publication now turned into a tawdry comic. Full of ads and over-hyped bands. Can be read almost entirely in half an hour. For free. In Tower. What a shame. Hot Press: Mediocre at best. Too many ads, free hair gel samples etc. Writing is either exceedingly dull or convoluted and pretentious. Too fawning towards Irish artists no matter how crap they are. Q: Rubbish. Crass. Putrefying cack. Drivel. (c)Alan Partridge Uncut: Used to buy it every month but has lost its way in the past year. Recent issue had Queen on the cover. Queen. Obsessed with the past and John Lennon. Would be a great music magazine if they realised great and important music was a concept that didn't end in 1970. Spin/Rolling Stone: American. Word: Alas, tha only magazine that offers anything to pique my interest. Great writing, nice balance of old and new artists (hello, Uncut!!), poor film review section though. Far from perfect but best of a bad bunch.
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    17 Apr 2005 07:56 PM
    I don't think Q is worse than Hotpress. Hotpress is the worst magazine (apart from really crappie free ones written by first year art students) I've ever really seen regarding music. I like Rolling Stone, but the non-music articles are usually the best. The Weekly Dig from Boston is good, as is the Onion print edition. Interview is good too. But, I think anyone who goes to magazines for information or prose on music before they reference the better stuff on the internet is in trouble.
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    17 Apr 2005 08:07 PM
    Yeah I read alot of music magazines and there are so many that are poor in content, style, writing and extras. I read NME and Hotpress the odd time but the good one's I try to get are 'Word', 'Rockpile' and 'Filter'. The best music magazine I've come across lately has been 'Paste' from America - it has a great layout, good style to it, interesting and diverse acts covered in it aswell as a kickin compliation cd & dvd. I'm getting the last issue and the most recent one sent over by a friend so looking forward to that. Defintely a need for another solid magazine, especially an Irish one.
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    17 Apr 2005 08:46 PM
    This thread from a while back may be of interest: http://www.cluas.com/discussion/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2232&SearchTerms=magazine In the meantime, all I can say is bring back MUZIK magazine!
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    17 Apr 2005 10:44 PM
    NME : tabloid w**k, still not as bad as it was in the 90's Hotpress : dreadful, not worth the paper its printed on, biggist crime is its continued ignorance and lack of support for homegrown talent (obviously not including the dreadful U2), and not to forget Niall Stokes self indulgent editorials ! Q : used to be good about 5 years ago, but I gather they have changed their target audience hece having more of a mianstream content, as Una says... still better than hotpress. Uncut : Really like it, movies and music are both covered, great integrity in the writing, wish they'd have more live reviews but otherwise I always buy it every month ! class !!!!!! Spin/Rolling Stone : Wouldnt give em the time of day, even worse that hotpress imho, quality of writing is dire ! Word - Now Word I like ! sometimes I think they could do with a little bit more of a sence of humour in the writing but otherwise its intelligent and to the point, and I mostly like what they like !!! Mojo - Also love this, as like Q, it was loads better 5 years ago but still you get the impression that the writers have a passion for what they are writing about and therfore its alright by me, like Uncut I but it every month.
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    18 Apr 2005 08:57 AM
    The Slate was probably one of the best musicish mags in recent time, although Totally Dublin is good for reviews.
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    18 Apr 2005 09:42 AM
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    The Slate was probably one of the best musicish mags in recent time, although Totally Dublin is good for reviews.
    Agree about TD una - good mag, well designed and good reviews - but The Slate was TERRIBLE. any mag where the writers refuse to use their own names to back up their opinions is just plain cowardly. i've started to get a pain in my face about music mags, i used to regularly buy tons of them but i've just got sick of seeing them turn into consumer guides. i still buy Mojo and occasionally Q and The Word now and then but more often than not, i stick to online mags, supplements that come with the papers (Observer Music Monthly, Guardian's Review and Irish Times Ticket) and word of mouth. Plus they have got rather expensive.....
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    18 Apr 2005 09:48 AM
    The Ticket, the Sunday Times supplements, rollingstone.com and the free Event Guide beat any of the magazines mentioned above in my mind. I used to subscribe to "No Depression" but let my subscription go when I discovered www.americana-uk.com. Websites, this one included, cater for my "musical needs" (how pretentious does that sound??) better than any print publication that costs money!!
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    18 Apr 2005 10:04 AM
    I thought it was a shame that the event guide stopped doing reviews. Dunno why either? I find that I can't keep up with sites on the web and generally don't bother buying mags anymore because I never read them through.
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    18 Apr 2005 10:20 AM
    the event guide's main problem is that the design has not changed in years and it now looks so shoddy compared to Totally Dublin and - even - In Dublin (which is absolute s**te but well-designed s**te nonetheless). the event guide looks like its put together in an hour by a bored child. they have the money - they certainly have enough advertising - so why not hire someone decent to do it? the writing is not as good as it was either - i think the main problem is that they just seem to have over-worked writer (and i think that's una who posts here) which is not fair on her. a music magazine (even a local listings mag like the EG) needs more writers. they used to have some amazing writers - people like mick heaney, jim carrol, leagues and more started there - so they just need to get their acts together again, that said, i'm sure it's easier said than done!
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    18 Apr 2005 10:44 AM
    I used to think The Ticket was alright, but I can't really stomach it anymore. Like the rest of the Irish Times, it has become completely contrived, unfortunately. fiddlechick makes a good point about newspaper wirting, in that the majority of it is better than specialised magazines. I think this is because national press arts writing tends not to have any motive or objective other than the pursuit of good writing. For me, The Observer Music Monthly and the Sunday Observer's music reviews by Kitty Empire (best name ever) are the BEST. They're just so well written and honest. No bulls**t and no cliches. The Ticket is too obsessed with the Dublin music scene and too self referential. The Sunday Times Culture supplement is alright, but only for album reviews, in my opinion. The interviews are always pretty much behind the times (no pun intended) The Guardian is generally good, but it can be a bit too cool for school sometimes. I think The Event Guide stopped doing reviews because there's not enough room, but I'm not too sure.
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    18 Apr 2005 11:38 AM
    The only magazine that I buy regularly is Q, and I'm not realy sure why, probably because it's got a very comprehensive reviews section (who I don't typicaly agree with) so I know what's out in any given month.
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    18 Apr 2005 12:00 PM
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    For me, The Observer Music Monthly and the Sunday Observer's music reviews by Kitty Empire (best name ever) are the BEST. They're just so well written and honest. No bulls**t and no cliches.

    she was the best thing about the NME in the last 10 years too - cool name thanks to Big Black song title! there was supposed to be an Observer Music Monthly yesterday but it did not appear. hope they havent stopped it
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    The Ticket is too obsessed with the Dublin music scene and too self referential.

    i would say that The Ticket has f**k all to do with the dublin music scene. go to thumped.com, search for "dublin music scene" and "the ticket" and see what they have to say!!! Jim carroll in the Ticket has written some really tough anti-Dublin music scene pieces so i dont think obsession is the right word. what i like about The Ticket is the music and movies mix. it has some great writers (carroll, donald clarke, ray comiskey) who produce some fine interviews and features. that the best music and movie writing comes in a supplement with a national broadsheet says more about the lack of competition than anything else IMHO
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    18 Apr 2005 12:04 PM
    yeah, why wasn't there a OMM yesterday? All I got was a free book.
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    18 Apr 2005 12:27 PM
    The Fly isn't a bad read, haven't got it for a while though. Maybe it's not on the go anymore.
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    18 Apr 2005 12:34 PM
    hotpress is a very poor magazine. i seem to remember giving my opinion on this quite recently, actually... hmmn. anyway, bang is very good. and zoo and nuts -> great magazine for immature men. not so sure about their reviews. i will continue the research.
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    18 Apr 2005 02:06 PM
    Maybe we could get John Ryan to stop doing that dog magazine in new york and put out a print version of cluas? Never bothered getting foggy notions as it looked a bit pretentious but is it still going? Bought uncut every month from day one until they had the clash on it for about the fifth time. I know they always profile bands with reasonable longevity but primal scream, blur, manics, sonic youth, pavement and others would have made good cover bands imo.
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    18 Apr 2005 02:14 PM
    I think 'The Ticket' varies, sometimes its really good while at other times it is terrible. The mix of music and movies is great (plus it boasts one of the best film critics around in Michael Dwyer) but alot of the time the music content is a week or two behind on everything. Some of the interviews, profiles and reviews are like press releases edited and pasted in. It is miles ahead of 'Day And Night' though. The Sunday supplements are usually good with the 'I Magazine' having good reviews (mostly from Edel Coffey or Neil Dunphy) and 'Culture' proving that they can make reviews complicated, informative and interesting with so few words. Foggy Notions would be welcomed back I think. Wasn't the last issue with PJ Harvey on the cover?
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    19 Apr 2005 03:51 PM
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    Originally posted by Pilchard i would say that The Ticket has f**k all to do with the dublin music scene. go to thumped.com, search for "dublin music scene" and "the ticket" and see what they have to say!!! Jim carroll in the Ticket has written some really tough anti-Dublin music scene pieces so i dont think obsession is the right word.
    Is it just me or does Jim Carroll just give out about everything? I can think of several topics off the top of my head that writes at least three articles a year about; 1. The lack of ambition and quality in Ireland's current music scene which he dismisses as a bunch of singer songwriters hanging around Whelan’s trying to get their picture taken with Glen Hansard 2. The failure of Irelands radio and television stations to dedicate anytime to quality music (although he always conveniently ignores Rna G's excellent an taobh tuathail show). 3. Irelands Archaic licensing laws and their detrimental effect on our nation's ailing club scene. While all these points are fairly spot on he's getting a bit repetitive at this stage. I just wish that he'd write a positive piece every know and again instead of just recycling the same old whinging arguments. Is there anything that the man actually likes? Besides Donal Dineen, I-pods and Jay Z of course (the "best lyricist in hip-hop" my hole!)
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    19 Apr 2005 04:08 PM
    I have to say I like The Ticket myself, there can be some bad issues but thats to be expected. The writing is usually very good, especially the interviews, the film reviews are usually spot on. It used to be worth buying for the single of the week reviews alone, (very very funny) but those have gone down hill recently
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