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hearty
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9/27/2006 4:39 PM
    its been an exciting time for the irish music scene with all the most promising acts signed up to labels, small and large over the last year. but as the bands start to release the albums and begin to make their way into the gigging world one by one they seem to be falling on the early hurdles.

    blizards - talented, but very very poppy. will sell bloody loads with people outside dublin, but whats the point in another shallow pop act?

    director - first single was great, new single is arse. getting better live, though. if the single for the album is that poor what chance the album?

    humanzi - poor album, huge deal. seems like they made it too early in their development.. could stifle them? great passion.

    immediate - good but patchy album, but nothing to rival the better alternative bands... second album not optioned by their label..

    marshalls - whats the delay on the album? wasn't it recorded last year?

    the question is, is it reasonable to want an irish band to do well? can the little scene here produce something to rival any of the bigger acts?

    hopefully all these acts get better and come through. your opinions greatly appriciated.


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    9/27/2006 4:57 PM
    Wasn't expecting very much from any of the above tbh. An album from Channel One would be mighty interesting though.
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    9/27/2006 5:12 PM
    I think about 90% of all current bands could be described as emperors new clothing. The Marshals, saw once and they were awful. About as edgey as McFly
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    9/27/2006 5:24 PM
    why the concern with bands you don't particularly like? Dublin seems to operate in some benevolent 60s warp where the 'scene' has to be supported and scrutinised at all costs. It has become an introverted obsession. Listen to music you like, everything else should be met with indifference, not examination?
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    9/27/2006 5:35 PM
    Come on Una, you don't believe that yourself. Slagging bands off is part and parcel of any city's music scene. Dublin is no different to London or New York or Grimsby.
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    9/27/2006 5:37 PM
    sorry I was just doing a Bertie. BANDS ARE NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
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    9/27/2006 5:53 PM
    The reason why I took the massive advance from a big label is because my band was going through a difficult time and we were splitting up. It doesn't mean that I'm compromising our sound. Just friends giving me a dig out. And even if said friends were appointed to positions by me, doesn't mean that my ethics have been compromised.
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    9/27/2006 5:55 PM
    Just to confirm (or distance myself from using 'arse' as an adjective) I'm not posting as 'hearty' - he seems to be a gar too.
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    9/27/2006 5:59 PM
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    Wasn't expecting very much from any of the above tbh. An album from Channel One would be mighty interesting though.
    Thats cause Channel One rock like a muthaf**ka!! They're releasing an EP pretty soon and I recommend everyone check it out. Mighty Stefs album just came out and if there's any justice in the world people will grab a copy and get into it. The Things album should be released soon enough - they are definitly worth their salt and I am very much looking forward to it. Cap Pas Cap are releasing an 12" soon - they've been working away quietly for a while and are now doing extremely well...still keeping a low profile and what not but are becoming busy little beavers. Also Sickboy - judging their EP tracks on their myspace (silence in conversation / The ATune etc) a release from them would be VERY promising indeed. There are so many bands *just* 'under the radar' if you will that are comin up with some seriously deadly stuff - so maybe expand the ole horizons and check them out!!!
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    9/27/2006 6:01 PM
    I agree with everything Benni said. Unfortunately, she forgot to mention Stagger Lee, whose track Misery River is the best song I've heard in ages. Also LOST whose new demos are up on their myspace/components are great.
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    9/27/2006 6:25 PM
    You know, I think slagging off/praising groups is an integral part of being a music fan, what I dont like is this "I'm not really into this band myself but I object to you having a less than gushing appreciation of them". That really gets me. Maybe its just me, but I can't see the point in being lukewarm about music. You love it or hate it.
    hearty
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    9/27/2006 8:25 PM
    i'm not trying to slag anyone off unconstructively, i genuinely love music and support it by going to regular (sometimes piss-poor) local gigs and buying local releases. i just don't like a lot of irish bands. however, i'd very much love a band who was irish to make me feel like a lot of bands i like do, and it hasn't happened in a while. i'll check out the other bands mentioned on myspace. there isn't really a scene here though, is there? lots of small scenes... (the things/manzi/channel1/sickboy/mainline one, the blizzards/marshalls/director one... etc) Gar(se)
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    9/27/2006 9:13 PM
    in my experience, music isn't exclusive to geography. I just don't like talking about scenes generally because it creates the shorthand of association.
    raoul
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    9/27/2006 9:39 PM
    any sign of Aleko releasing anything any time soon? great band. Always enjoy their gigs...
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    9/28/2006 12:10 AM
    quote:
    Originally posted by benni There are so many bands *just* 'under the radar' if you will that are comin up with some seriously deadly stuff - so maybe expand the ole horizons and check them out!!!
    Have seen all the aforementioned except Sickboy, who I've been meaning to check out. The rest of them... meh.
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    9/28/2006 2:34 AM
    I noticed Humanzi got a good review in last month's UNCUT magazine... which would suggest a UK release of their album?
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    9/28/2006 9:12 AM
    i feel as if i'm living a groundhog day sometimes in cluas. did we have this discussion last month, no? or the month before? anyway...... the director album is godawful. will not get a UK release. the marshalls have one decent tune. will be dropped. what happened to dc pakt? have red organ serpent sound packed it in? or did they run out of face paint? humanzis album got a release in the UK. no-one bought it, though. immediate album v good. now managed by paul mcguinness. may turn out to be the new paddy caseys the things ROCK but nothing they've done to date on CD has matched the live show. channel 1 are so-so. staggerlee still sound like sons and daughters but that can be seen by some as a good thing. AMAZING bass player, not sure about the singer.
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    9/28/2006 10:12 AM
    I like the Director album, but it gets samey. I f**king hate Red Organ Serpent Sound. Scumbags.
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    9/28/2006 10:17 AM
    Why are they scum bags?
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    9/28/2006 10:31 AM
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    Why are they scum bags?
    i was gonna ask the same question. i just think they're numpties but scum bags is a bit heavy. me thinks theres a story. cmon una - roll with it. make it interesting and snappy.
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