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New Look for CLUAS
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4/6/2006 12:38 AM
    I tonight am rolling out the first cut of a new look for the CLUAS home page. I am also changing the default font across the site to the font known as Georgia (chosen as (I find) it's easy to read, classy and works great - well it works great on the new redesigned NYT website which was unveiled this week). Check out the home page: www.cluas.com I am keen to have your views on this work in progress. Comments / suggestiosn for the home page in particular are most welcome. Is there a downside to this? Well there is at least one: users of the CLUAS email service will have to go through one extra click to log into their account... Whaddaya make of it? Feel free to reply with your comments... eoghan
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    4/6/2006 9:08 AM
    The new font looks terrible in my opinion, but then, what do I know.
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    4/6/2006 9:19 AM
    Cheers Richie. Y'all keep the feedbvack coming. Nothing is written in stone with these changes and if there appears to be a sensible consensus on X, Y, or Z I more than willing to roll back/revise some of the tweaks. eoghan
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    4/6/2006 10:02 AM
    I like the font. Futura would be better though.
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    4/6/2006 10:22 AM
    yea not reeeeeally feelin the font myself im afraid!
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    4/6/2006 11:22 AM
    Likin the layout of the frontpage though. Changing the font is a good idea aswell.
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    4/6/2006 11:45 AM
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    Likin the layout of the frontpage though. Changing the font is a good idea aswell.
    What new look?
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    4/6/2006 11:59 AM
    Slightly different shade of blue?
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    4/6/2006 12:06 PM
    Just how it's all moved around with the gig reviews under the album reviews, looks more concise.
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    4/6/2006 12:30 PM
    It is a biut easier on the eye alright. But God, I hate the colour. There, I said it.
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    4/6/2006 12:44 PM
    We fear change. I think the new layout is fine, but I thought the old layout was fine too. I must admit I dislike the new font but I'll probably grow accustomed to it over time.
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    4/6/2006 1:38 PM
    The colour scheme is ick. Don't know anything about fonts, but it looks ok.
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    4/6/2006 1:45 PM
    Like hte new layout, hate the font.
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    4/6/2006 1:52 PM
    I'd have to say not liking the font at all, if you look at most webstites, (nme, rte, rollingstone, ireland.com, unison.ie) they all use sans-serif fonts like arial. It's just easier to read online, for printed works serif fonts like Times New Roman and Verdana work better, I'd definitely say go back to a sans-serif font for readability but then that's only my opinion. Had a look at www.nytimes.com and I don't think it looks good, the layout does but think the text is hard to read. As to the colour, I'd like a white background but the blue does make the site stand out from others. Anyway just my opinions, like the new layout and great that there are improvements being made all the time
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    4/6/2006 2:01 PM
    HATE the new font, there was nothing wrong with the old one.
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    4/6/2006 2:06 PM
    I have to agree on the new font.. Its just not working for me. Rest seems fine
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    4/6/2006 2:11 PM
    I like the font, is easier on the eye, & more official looking ... although I'm more of a Verdana man myself ! Verdana was designed for small print, such as this site uses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdana
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    4/6/2006 2:32 PM
    Me no like at all at all. Sorry there ol' chum.
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    4/6/2006 3:09 PM
    Not feeling the font either, bit hard on the eye. Everything else is dandy
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    4/6/2006 3:28 PM
    i like the font.
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    4/6/2006 4:05 PM
    Excellent feedback so far m'luds'n'ladies. I hear the negative stuff some of you have been saying about the new Georgia font. But I don't want to ditch it just yet. I think the size of the font was too small, making it somethimes difficult to read / unattractive. So I have just increased the size of the fonts on the discussion board (while keeping it as Georgia). So... What are the thoughts on the larger sized fonts? What's preference: smaller fonts (as before) or the bigger ones now on the board? RSVP eoghan
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    4/6/2006 4:23 PM
    have you never been told before that size isnt everything Eoghan?!?!
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    4/6/2006 4:28 PM
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    have you never been told before that size isnt everything Eoghan?!?!
    Many, many times. So what do you think of: a) the font b) the home page re-design That does be what I'm interested in now. eoghan
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    4/6/2006 4:30 PM
    The new size for the new font is a big improvement over the old size for the new font but no better than the old font! So now I'm pretty indifferent on the font front.
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    4/6/2006 4:45 PM
    Yep, the new size does seem to have improved things greatly. Twas probably my failing eyesight with old age that was causing the lower size font to trouble me.
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    4/6/2006 4:46 PM
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    have you never been told before that size isnt everything Eoghan?!?!
    Many, many times. So what do you think of: a) the font b) the home page re-design That does be what I'm interested in now. eoghan
    Likin' the new Font...........but please get rid of that awful blue.
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    4/6/2006 4:50 PM
    font definately looks better now its been resized and the homepage seems much neater and easier to find your way with the new frames. course the bigger font also means its harder to disguise the fact youre on a message board while in work.
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    4/6/2006 5:21 PM
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    font definately looks better now its been resized and the homepage seems much neater and easier to find your way with the new frames. course the bigger font also means its harder to disguise the fact youre on a message board while in work.
    Very good point Kavo...the perils of peeking into the forum during work, I always minimise the page and hide in the corner of the screen, then type frantically, my boss thinks I'm working very hard whereas I'm probably just furiously replying to some Cluaser who thinks the Flaming Lips are 'boring' or whether the last Explosions in the Sky album is better than their debut, and so on........but getting back to the point-Please get rid of the blue, please Eoghan?
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    4/6/2006 5:35 PM
    Is it just me, or is the font bigger on the last page than on this one?
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    4/6/2006 5:39 PM
    No, wait a minute it looks ok now....tripin...
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    4/6/2006 5:51 PM
    The re-sized font is much better, looks well
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    4/6/2006 7:57 PM
    AFTER 4 years studying design i must say that font is terrible as too are the immediate heard some stuff on their myspace
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    4/6/2006 10:14 PM
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    AFTER 4 years studying design i must say that font is terrible
    Excellent - an expert! Please enlighten as to why the Georgia font is "terrible". What would your professional recommendation be? And if you have a font in to recommend, why do you suggest it over others? I am but a novice in the font world. So spread the knowledge Mr. Flem. eoghan
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    4/6/2006 11:14 PM
    Font? how about "Comic Sans"? *runs* (if you don't hear from me again, I've probably been stabbed with a pencil by a graphic designer or something)
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    4/6/2006 11:26 PM
    i think you should get rid of the 'last updated on...' bit. fool people into thinking it's updated everyday. oh, and try wingdings. postmodern.
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    4/6/2006 11:43 PM
    Now, THIS is how to design a music related site http://www.menomena.com/menu2.html I accept no responsibility for any temporary blindness that may occur.
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    4/7/2006 12:15 AM
    White on blue never works terribly well from a design point of view, and if your monitor is subject to any form of glare text can become unreadable in those colours. Agreed with previous that the font used is meant for print, not computer screens. Site utilising fonts like this, http://www.neumu.com/, look more professional and are easier to read
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    4/7/2006 9:15 AM
    eh the font is way too big....that is all
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    4/7/2006 10:23 AM
    The text font is a bad chioce, makes everything harder on the eye. I dunno, i just get a really bad headache looking at cluas now, everything just seems all over the place and messy As for the home page, i think there is too much on it
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    4/7/2006 10:35 AM
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    As for the home page, i think there is too much on it
    Curious observation, as there is actually a good bit less on the home page now then there was before (email login removed, number of album and gig reviews listed has been reduced from 9 to 7, number of discussion topics highlighted reduced from 5 to 4, to quote a few examples). What has happened however is that more of what is on the home page is vislbe immedaitely WITHOUT THE NEED OF HAVING TO SCROLL DOWN. Anyway the whole font thing is up for grabs. All feedback is being well noted. In due course expect more chnages, for the better. eoghan
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    4/7/2006 2:18 PM
    I guess I've given it a few days - time for some conclusions. Firstly, the font which seems to be the most controversial change. I find it harder to read that the original, also a little on the large side. It reminds me of the new Guardian font (which, incidentally, I think works really well on the printed page). But, all in all, it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the site. More controversial to me was the decision to move the email login to a new page. I use the email regularly and it was always nice to see what's changed on the site whilst logging in. Now I have bookmarked the login page, I suspect that over time, my usage of the site will show a slight dip. I think the new front page is an improvement. I appreciate the fact that the ads are still unobstrusive. I am assuming that the proliferation of the word "indie" is for search engine benefit? I like to think that CLUAS has broader range than that suggested by a word that is losing meaning to me. The Corrs, Van, Jack Johnson. Indie?
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    4/7/2006 2:47 PM
    aye, i noticed the indie thing too, thought it a little much 8)
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    4/7/2006 7:51 PM
    I think (like many others) that the font is the biggest problem and that Arial should be used since its nice and bold but not to much. I think the homepage is great but the reduction of discussion board topics and reviews decreases available info upon front page viewing, so it doesn't grab me as much as it used to for some reason


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