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4/14/2005 1:06 PM
    Great gig in the Village, 4 stars for their album in Q. I'm a fan, what do yeeee think?
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    4/14/2005 1:07 PM
    terrible
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    4/14/2005 1:36 PM
    why?
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    4/14/2005 1:42 PM
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    Great gig in the Village, 4 stars for their album in Q. I'm a fan, what do yeeee think?
    I'm saying nothing. Got fcuked from a height on another board about them ... Scroll down to where Opinion comes into it http://212.67.202.155/~bellx1/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002353.html
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    4/14/2005 2:07 PM
    Wouldn't be the biggest fan, especially live, just doesn't rock enough for me, but I guess they're not bad. Played a gig with them last year and they're very nice guys. I hope they do well, but as I said, I wouldn't be they're biggest fan... but I've only seen them once, so maybe I'm being harsh.
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    4/14/2005 2:18 PM
    like what they are doing. Hard working band and fully deserve what will hopefully be success. Can see why they would not be everyone's cup of tea, nothing particular original there, but sure its about what individual ears like. Some of the years biggest successes, (ie) Snow Patrol, Keane, Killers, Interpol have made it on the basis of taking previous bands ideas and rasing them to another level. Best of luck to them
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    4/14/2005 2:26 PM
    Here's a review of their gig from Whelan's last year: http://www.cluas.com/music/gigs/hal.htm
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    4/14/2005 2:40 PM
    I think they're what the Thrills should be. I'm not a fan of the Thrills, because, live, I don't think they cut it, even though they have a couple of good pop songs. But, there's something sincere about Hal. Excuse me for not being cynical. The gig @ The Village was a tight performance. And there are three good voices in the band. I don't have the album yet, just a 5 track sampler, and the songs are excellent. Good production too. Neat.
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    4/14/2005 2:43 PM
    comparing Doves to Hal (on the link to that thread you posted, Mully) is dumb. Chalk und cheese.
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    4/14/2005 2:55 PM
    hal are the thrills in disguise. to be fair, i have seen them three times and they have slowly got better. still, i'd prefer to eat raw onions than see them again in a hurry
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    4/14/2005 3:06 PM
    "hal are the thrills in disguise" there's an insult. I don't know how anyone who has seen both bands live could successfully compare them. The Thrills are consistently rubbish live.
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    4/14/2005 3:36 PM
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    "hal are the thrills in disguise" there's an insult. I don't know how anyone who has seen both bands live could successfully compare them. The Thrills are consistently rubbish live.
    have u actually ever seen Hal and The Thrills in the same room at the same time? has anyone? its the ultimate tribute band oneupmanship
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    4/14/2005 3:52 PM
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    Originally posted by Una I don't know how anyone who has seen both bands live could successfully compare them. The Thrills are consistently rubbish live.
    I've had the misfortune of seeing The Thrills live twice and as much as they bug the Loretta Swit out of me, they played their stuff well. But the singer! He has got to be one of the worst, most ill-equipped lead vocalists in music today. Especially live!
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    4/14/2005 3:52 PM
    i am just going to say they write fun pop songs and no matter how much i try not to like them they get stuck in my head. They are definitely a perfect summer festival band if it si sunny.
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    4/14/2005 3:53 PM
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    Some of the years biggest successes, (ie) Snow Patrol, Keane, Killers, Interpol have made it on the basis of taking previous bands ideas and rasing them to another level. Best of luck to them
    As a matter of interest, which band(s) ideas in your view are Snow Patrol taking to another level ?
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    4/14/2005 4:06 PM
    their own?
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    4/14/2005 4:15 PM
    Doves, (pounding vs chocolate) is prime example of that. Big stadium "run" reminds me of manzy early Embrace songs, chord structure wise. Am not looking for holes in them, have the album and like the band, just saying that those bands are not particularly original in their arrival, they just do what they do very very well. fair?
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    4/14/2005 4:20 PM
    dont know about snow patrol ripping off pounding for choclate, that beat is used in loads of songs before pounding i am the resurrection anyone?
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    4/14/2005 4:24 PM
    Fair enough, I just dont understand people putting Snow Patrol in the "Keane", Hope of the States etc category. In my opinion, Snow Patrol have worked their a*sses off for years to get where they are. They are the band who up until last year were labelled as severly underratted. Their music has progressed over the years, but I dont think its a case of them them porgressing so far that you cant relate their earlier albums (yes folks, there are more then 1) to Final Straw. There is a definite line of progression As for HAL, sorry, but they aint my cuppa tea. They have been unfortunate to have been labelled with the "Next Thrills" tag for so long now, but I think they like this labelling in the sense that it gets peoples attention. Saw a band recently supporting Colm Quearney who started out well, but just descended into Thrills-ish vocals. Wasnt impressed. stellarband or something like that.
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    4/14/2005 4:26 PM
    definitely agree with you there but its hard not to throw a song like run (which is their best known song and probably always will be unfortunately) into the ballad bands category.
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    Fair enough, I just dont understand people putting Snow Patrol in the "Keane", Hope of the States etc category. In my opinion, Snow Patrol have worked their a*sses off for years to get where they are. They are the band who up until last year were labelled as severly underratted. Their music has progressed over the years, but I dont think its a case of them them porgressing so far that you cant relate their earlier albums (yes folks, there are more then 1) to Final Straw. There is a definite line of progression
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    4/14/2005 4:29 PM
    Its obvious there going for the big sing alongs like coldplay used to
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    4/15/2005 8:01 AM
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    comparing Doves to Hal (on the link to that thread you posted, Mully) is dumb. Chalk und cheese.
    Very much Chalk & Cheese, not sure if you picked up on it, but Hal opened for Doves recently, thats how they are both mentioned. I'm in the 'not for me' camp, I'm afraid. Everyone is going for The Thrills comparisons, but for me, Toploader would be more closer, & I dont mean that in a bad way. Just seemed to be overcoated verses with lots of 'la, las' & an organ drowning out the other instruments.
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    dont know about snow patrol ripping off pounding for choclate, that beat is used in loads of songs before pounding
    SP have come out & said as much.
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    4/15/2005 10:05 AM
    to be a massively popular band like keane, snow patrol and hal there has to be a certain blandness about the music - a kind of everyman draw, but i think HAL have enough of their own style. personally i find it a little MOR, but its well written, gentle 70's pop, and there's room for it on the radio.
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    4/15/2005 11:30 AM
    'bland' is the worong word. It just has to APPEAL. More often than not, these means been slightly less avant guarde, of course. But if a band sell to the fringes of an audience of rock fans rather than the rock fans themselves, they will sell more, as the fringe outnumbers the core. The again, I've never (personaly) met a band that 'directs' itself at a particular audience or writes a song thinking 'oh x kind of people will like this'. That's the record company and PR agency's job.
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    4/15/2005 12:06 PM
    Rising Irish band Hal will celebrate the release of their debut album 'Play the Hits' with an instore appearance in Dublin next week. The band will meet fans and sign copies of 'Play the Hits' at HMV on Dublin's Grafton Street on Friday 22 April at 5pm. 'Play the Hits' is also released on 22 April. The album has been widely praised in the media, with influential British magazine Uncut giving the band's debut a four-star review.
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    4/15/2005 1:36 PM
    Hal make insipid soulless drive time MOR music just like the Thrills, Stereophonics, Travis, Keane, Embrace etc etc. It's music for housewives to whistle along to when they're listening to Gerry Ryan and doing the dishes. I don't care how many Neil Young albums they listen to they're still sh*t and there are thousands of bands in the world today who are more deserving of success and exposure then this bunch of chancers. And Snow Patrol are complete sell outs. Go back and listen to Star fighter Pilot or any of the Reindeer Selection and then listen to their half asses interpretations of Doves' Pounding (Chocolate) and Coldplay's Yellow (Run). Final Straw wasn't a happy accident, it was a cold calculated move by Lightbody to re position himself in the market as the new Chris Martin. And now that he's sacked his bassist God now's what kind of watered down rock lite he’s preparing for the new album.
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    4/15/2005 2:10 PM
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    And Snow Patrol are complete sell outs. Go back and listen to Star fighter Pilot or any of the Reindeer Selection and then listen to their half asses interpretations of Doves' Pounding (Chocolate) and Coldplay's Yellow (Run). Final Straw wasn't a happy accident, it was a cold calculated move by Lightbody to re position himself in the market as the new Chris Martin. And now that he's sacked his bassist God now's what kind of watered down rock lite he’s preparing for the new album.
    sorry but have to disagree with you there. yes they've changed since starfighter pilot but in fairness that was nigh on ten years ago. i heard the demos for final straw and they're fantastic, very much so like the snow patrol of old, a bit of major record company production and they sound like they do now. no one was complainging about them selling out when they first released final straw to no sales in summer 2003
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    4/15/2005 3:15 PM
    Have to step in and defend Embrace. Whilst their last two albums have gone down the travis route, I thought their debut and followup were great stuff and they were brilliant in the olympia a few years ago.
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    4/15/2005 4:09 PM
    Hard working band. Deserve all they get. Their sound is very now, I just wonder if they haven't missed the boat. I now a few guys in Lizard king in London and they told me that they signed the killers over 2 years ago. I hope not cos they are a very good band.
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    4/17/2005 9:21 AM
    Snow Patrol, Keane, Coldplay, Hal.....blah blah blah. Any band that yer Ma and Da like to listen to must be shyte!!! What the hell has happened to music? So many bands that are happy to sing depressing ballads about their new baby or about how their new sandals won't match their girlfriends beige flared chords. We need another revolution like in the late seventies. And as for that pr*ick in the Thrills that bends over to sing into a 2ft mic. Next time he does it, someone should ride him up the hole to teach him a lesson.
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    4/18/2005 10:43 AM
    nesta=legend
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    4/18/2005 11:28 AM
    nesta, are you volunteering for the job?
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    4/25/2005 10:28 AM
    So did anyone get the album then? Verdicts?
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    4/25/2005 12:04 PM
    don't have the album, butu have a 5 track sampler (which I presume contains all of the albums best songs), and it's great. Completely addictive hooks and melodies.
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    4/25/2005 3:05 PM
    I got the album and it's ok. Some really good tunes, actually the same one's that stood out when I saw them live both times, 'I Sat Down', 'Worry About The Wind', 'What A Lovely Dance' and 'Satisfied'. Although the album feels a little dragged out and can't see it having a great lifespan, but some pleasant sun-pop tunes on there.


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