Quint Basic Member Posts:209  
| 10/17/2007 6:18 AM |
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Has anyone here seen this? It seemed to just come and go in cinemas in Ireland unnoticed. John Carney is an immensely talented writer/director (Bachelors Walk is the best Irish-made TV series I've yet seen) but the thought of listening to the ol' Ginger Messiah himself Glen for and hour and half, let alone watching his dubious acting skills, was too much to contemplate....but the Brits are loving this film, he and Marketa were on the Culture Show last week plus a full page in last Sunday's Observer, etc and we haven't even started at how well it's doing in the US, despite my severe Frames allergy I might check it out on DVD...but has anyone seen it? Worth all the hype???....in related news...John Cale is SUPPORTING (!!!!????) The FRames at Some Days Never End, is this a mistake?...what next...? Lou Reed Supporting Bell X1?, New York Dolls supporting The Blizzards? Televison supporting Delorentos?. Very strange.
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starbelgrade Advanced Member Posts:715
| 10/17/2007 6:46 AM |
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I prefer Hansard when he's doing his Avid Merrion roles!
Speaking of look-a-likes.. has anyone else noticed the uncanny resembelance between the actor who plays Earl in "My Name is Earl" and the drummer from The Killers? I'm convinced they are one in the same.
(PS Star Belgrade's next gig is in Whelans on Nov 8th, with support from Led Zeppelin, tickets €7 from www.tickets.ie)
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PeejayBasic Member Posts:340
| 10/17/2007 7:23 AM |
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John Cale is SUPPORTING (!!!!????) The FRames at Some Days Never End, is this a mistake?...what next...? Lou Reed Supporting Bell X1?, New York Dolls supporting The Blizzards? Televison supporting Delorentos?. Very strange.  I understand the musical imbalance, but this is showbiz dahling. John Cale was always a bit fringe, he never built a solid solo career like Lou did, thought he does have some great albums to his name. I wonder how some artists, deep down, feel about being the support slot. Especially being support for groups that bare little similarity to their own music and are ten times as popular. |
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/17/2007 7:42 AM |
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Posted By Peejay on 17 Oct 2007 7:23 AM John Cale is SUPPORTING (!!!!????) The FRames at Some Days Never End, is this a mistake?...what next...? Lou Reed Supporting Bell X1?, New York Dolls supporting The Blizzards? Televison supporting Delorentos?. Very strange.  I understand the musical imbalance, but this is showbiz dahling. John Cale was always a bit fringe, he never built a solid solo career like Lou did, thought he does have some great albums to his name. I wonder how some artists, deep down, feel about being the support slot. Especially being support for groups that bare little similarity to their own music and are ten times as popular. I can't speak for all artists, but oul Robbie and Jimmy told me over a pint last night that they were deeply honoured to be offered a chance to play with us - especially now as we have almost 20,000 friends on MySpace. I told them not to worry - just get me a few pints & we'd be all square. |
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dermot_trellis New Member Posts:69
| 10/17/2007 7:42 AM |
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Yeah, I was amazed to discover how well 'Once' is doing over in the States (especially compared to the relatively muted reception here).. not a fan of The Frames at all but fair play to Glen Hansard, he's certainly put in enough hard graft at this stage to deserve his big break.
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/17/2007 7:45 AM |
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Posted By dermot_trellis on 17 Oct 2007 7:42 AM
Yeah, I was amazed to discover how well 'Once' is doing over in the States (especially compared to the relatively muted reception here).. not a fan of The Frames at all but fair play to Glen Hansard, he's certainly put in enough hard graft at this stage to deserve his big break. His second big break.. remember The Commitments?!? |
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aidanAdvanced Member Posts:638
| 10/17/2007 8:26 AM |
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'Once' is opening next week here in France, where cinema critics are probably the most demanding in the world - however, the film got a very good reaction at a recent 'British' film festival (in Normandy, I think)... I haven't seen it yet but I'll give it a go, I'll check out the reviews and I'll report on same over at the blog.
Anyone else around the world with reports on how 'Once' is doing with audiences and critics?
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Unicron Veteran Member Posts:1696
| 10/17/2007 8:50 AM |
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Posted By dermot_trellis on 17 Oct 2007 7:42 AM
Yeah, I was amazed to discover how well 'Once' is doing over in the States (especially compared to the relatively muted reception here).. not a fan of The Frames at all but fair play to Glen Hansard, he's certainly put in enough hard graft at this stage to deserve his big break. Apparently it's the most profitable film of the summer in the US in terms of how much it cost to make vs. how much it's taken. |
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/17/2007 9:10 AM |
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We've had to suffer the gingeritus' warblings, cult-like fans & bloody violin solos ever since he came to light as Outspan.. the rest of the world have had no previous warnings, so who can blame the good reviews & box office takings? Give 'em a year or two - that'll learn them!
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Norman SchwarzkopfBasic Member Posts:427
| 10/17/2007 10:07 AM |
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The world is coming at it without any pro- or con-Frames baggage so to everyone else, it's just a sweet little Irish movie with original songs better than the usual "movie" songs...(Witness the annual "Best Song" Oscar category).
The Irish are s**te at going to Irish movies full stop, let alone one with Hansard in it... not surprised it didnt do so well here.
Jonathan Ross wasnt into it. Spielberg was. Who to believe???!!!
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/18/2007 2:37 AM |
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Posted By aidan on 17 Oct 2007 8:26 AM
Anyone else around the world with reports on how 'Once' is doing with audiences and critics?
Here's a link to the "Once" MySpace blog, containing a load of the UK reviews... http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=152394451&blogID=320132586 |
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crucifixioNew Member Posts:89
| 10/18/2007 2:50 AM |
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I actually won tickets to see the premiere in Dublin months ago. I went along not expecting much but I ended up really enjoying it. It's absolutely hilarious at times (the opening scene) and Glen doesn't get annoying at all (I just want to mention that I am not a Frames fan).
I would really recommend people should go and see this, it's one of the best Irish films in a long time. Fox Searchlight has bought the rights to the film (hence it being re-released) and it has won loads of awards at various film festivals.
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UnaRocksBasic Member Posts:274
| 10/18/2007 5:54 AM |
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I went to the premiere too. I thought it was a great little movie. Would recommend it.
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/18/2007 7:29 AM |
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Just heard a song from the film on the radio there a few minutes ago ... there's no way I could sit through that s**te - honest to god, what the f**k is up with all the s**tty singer songwriters in this country ?? there's a f**king palgue of the c**ts these days.. ever since that w**ker Damien Rice had a song stuck in a chick flick it's like - ching, ching.. acoustic + male vocal + female vocal = cash. Paddy "sheep head" Casey was at it last night on The Last Broadcast too... the only exception I'd make is for Jinx Lennon & his missus!
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aidanAdvanced Member Posts:638
| 10/18/2007 7:52 AM |
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Posted By starbelgrade on 18 Oct 2007 7:29 AM
Just heard a song from the film on the radio there a few minutes ago ... there's no way I could sit through that s**te - honest to god, what the f**k is up with all the s**tty singer songwriters in this country ?? there's a f**king palgue of the c**ts these days.. ever since that w**ker Damien Rice had a song stuck in a chick flick it's like - ching, ching.. acoustic + male vocal + female vocal = cash. Paddy "sheep head" Casey was at it last night on The Last Broadcast too... the only exception I'd make is for Jinx Lennon & his missus! Fortunately, there's always Whelan's on November 8, right? ;D |
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/18/2007 9:27 AM |
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Posted By aidan on 18 Oct 2007 7:52 AM Posted By starbelgrade on 18 Oct 2007 7:29 AM
Just heard a song from the film on the radio there a few minutes ago ... there's no way I could sit through that s**te - honest to god, what the f**k is up with all the s**tty singer songwriters in this country ?? there's a f**king palgue of the c**ts these days.. ever since that w**ker Damien Rice had a song stuck in a chick flick it's like - ching, ching.. acoustic + male vocal + female vocal = cash. Paddy "sheep head" Casey was at it last night on The Last Broadcast too... the only exception I'd make is for Jinx Lennon & his missus! Fortunately, there's always Whelan's on November 8, right? ;D I presume yr takin the mick, but just in case... no, we ain't playin' Whelans (not this side of Xmas anyhow!), though when we do, Led Zep will DEFINITELY be supporting us! |
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UnaRocksBasic Member Posts:274
| 10/19/2007 2:19 AM |
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"what the f**k is up with all the s**tty singer songwriters in this country" - are you living in Ireland ten years ago, or just not bothered to check out any music beyond the realms of chick flicks and The Last Broadcast?
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/19/2007 2:49 AM |
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Yeah - there's no bands left in Ireland.. that's what Dave Fanning said last week anyhow and I believe him. The future is Mundy.
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/19/2007 2:51 AM |
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And "Closer" is NOT a chick flick.. it's a heartfelt drama about infidelity, intimacy and sacrifice.
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 10/19/2007 2:52 AM |
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And Glen Hansard is not really Avid Merrion - I just made that up.
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floodzerBasic Member Posts:181
| 10/19/2007 4:41 AM |
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I enjoyed it also. I thought Glen and Marketa were good/believable.
On another note, I was listening to some of Burn The Maps again this week...
Some excellent tunes: Finally, Dream Awake, Suffer in Silence, Keepsake. Those skeptical of the frames' music should listen to these if you havnt already.
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
| 10/19/2007 4:57 AM |
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Posted By floodzer on 19 Oct 2007 4:41 AM
I enjoyed it also. I thought Glen and Marketa were good/believable.
Real life couple. Perhaps a little icky considering that she's only 19/20 and they've known each other since she was 13. |
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UnaRocksBasic Member Posts:274
| 10/19/2007 5:03 AM |
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Starbelgrade: did you ever consider making sense at some stage?
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QuintBasic Member Posts:209
| 10/19/2007 5:49 AM |
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It's been said here already but yeah, the reason it's done so well outside of Ireland is probably that people have no idea who Glen is, or who The Frames are for that matter, so the target audience don't have that Glen/Frames fatigue many people here have. I think in Ireland you really have to be a major hardcore fan of Glen's music to be able to sit through the film. The fact that his character is a busker doesn't help either. I now recall a scathing review George Byrne gave it in the Herald, he said it was 'torture' or something, and gave it 1 out of 5. I will still rent the DVD though, out of curiosity.
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aidanAdvanced Member Posts:638
| 10/19/2007 9:06 AM |
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Posted By floodzer on 19 Oct 2007 4:41 AM
On another note, I was listening to some of Burn The Maps again this week...
Some excellent tunes: Finally, Dream Awake, Suffer in Silence, Keepsake. Those skeptical of the frames' music should listen to these if you havnt already. I agree about 'Burn The Maps': after all 'twas I who wrote the (quite favourable) CLUAS review of said album. 'Dance The Devil' and 'For The Birds' are also fine albums. However, I didn't like their first two albums at all - and their latest one didn't excite me either. It's been a while since we've had a good ol' Frames-war on this board ;D |
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Jim DubhNew Member Posts:4
| 10/21/2007 3:30 PM |
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I actually did see this when it came out in the spring. I think that you will find it pretty good, so long as your movie tastes extend anywhere beyond the standard Hollywood pap. To be fair, Hansard is mostly understated in the movie, so those of you who like to take a pop at him should not be put off by this.
As well as doing well at various festivals, I think that it also managed to receive a whole lot of quirky publicity from some American statistical measurement that compares ticket revenues to film costs. For a while back there, it was coming top on that scale and seemed to get a decent bit of attention because of this. Not that I am wishing to sound like some stereotypical begrudging Paddy. Its so hard for any non-mainstream movie to get a bit of notice, then fair play if this is something that did help them get a bit of above-average attention.
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
| 10/22/2007 4:13 AM |
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Posted By aidan on 19 Oct 2007 9:06 AM
me either.
It's been a while since we've had a good ol' Frames-war on this board ;D Damien Rice is rubbish! Oops, sorry, wrong argument, carry on..  |
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floodzerBasic Member Posts:181
| 10/22/2007 4:16 AM |
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I read an article in the Sunday Tribune that it was made for €200k & it has already grossed €10m.
Does this profit mostly go to RTE as they bought it?
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stephenBasic Member Posts:201
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QuintBasic Member Posts:209
| 10/22/2007 6:37 AM |
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That's an excellent review, especially from Cosmo who never gets carried away with the hype surrounding a film and always tells it like it is. It gives you a great sense of what the film is about and makes you want to see it, even if he's quite unflattering about Hansard's looks!!! Jonathan Ross gave it a mixed review on Film 2007, he liked its originality but found the central relationship unconvincing and Marketa seemed 'ill at ease' in front of the camera. Really intrigued to see this film now.
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stephenBasic Member Posts:201
| 10/23/2007 4:50 AM |
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I saw it about a month ago. I found in underwhelming. Hansard is very wide-eyed and innocent for a man of his age (and situation in the movie). Marketa is just delightful in my opinion. The lines are sometimes spat out in too much of a hurry. The scenes in her flat in Dublin with her family were really affecting, I thought. And the unconventional nature of the plot and its conclusion increased its worth. But I found that I was not emotionally involved. I never felt that there were reciprocal emotions. Still definitely worth viewing in my opinion. 6 out of 10
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AllyBasic Member Posts:347
| 10/25/2007 4:31 AM |
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i am not fussed about seeing it... i have in the past been quite a big frames fan... 'for the birds' for me is a fantastic album... but as i've lost interest with their music (burn the maps and especially the cost), i've found myself willing them to get the commercial success that they've craved and let's be honest, deserve...
...so i'm delighted for them... don't think the film would set me alight though so it's not at the top of my list...
i want to see if jools holland picks them up for 'later...'
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aidanAdvanced Member Posts:638
| 12/2/2007 11:07 AM |
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I've just seen it for the first time (and blogged about the experience too!): it was nice. Glen Hansard was good, credible in the confused-lovelorn-guy role. But Marketa's character was a bit flat in terms of dialogue and emotional depth (though she did well in the role). And the songs are just Glen-by-numbers and aren't as good as the best Frames stuff (for me, that means 'Dance The Devil' and 'For The Birds'). IMO the film is successful outside Ireland because of the romanticised portrayal of a street busker and an immigrant to Ireland (no racism or work problems!) which people in Ireland perhaps don't find credible. Oh, and no one knows The Frames |
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AllyBasic Member Posts:347
| 12/3/2007 6:40 AM |
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i was at the jason molina gig on friday... he and glen hansard were/are good friends.... near the end of the gig he says 'where's glen these days?'.... all he got was a 'glen who?' from someone who knew fine well and a few derisory snorts... he continued on to say that glen used to sleep on his floor in chicago and he loved the guy...
...i kinda hated everyone at the gig at that moment... i hate all the haters... do you know the man?... i don't....
the petty-minded view of people is sickening... where is the love?
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starbelgradeAdvanced Member Posts:715
| 12/3/2007 9:01 AM |
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Ginger lovin' was made illegal in the late 70's.
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QuintBasic Member Posts:209
| 1/6/2008 9:33 AM |
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Finally seen this film at last, rented it over Christmas and what a revelation it is. I've never been a huge fan of The Frames or Glen Hansard but 'Once' blew me away and Glen is bearable in this. They can't act but I think that's makes it more human and believable and why it works so well. Glen is very understated and likeable as is Marketa (although her English is heavily accented so it's hard to make out what she is saying at times). It's a great little movie that has huge emotional impact at the end. AS for the music if you don't like the Frames, it's still watchable. There is no screeching violin here and Glen's histrionics are kept to minimum by Marketa... There's also a great scene featuring Fergus O'Farrell of Interference singing with Glen at a house party. Put aside your Frames/Glen prejudices and check it out.
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Pool Cleaning GuyNew Member Posts:70
| 1/22/2008 12:03 PM |
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The recorded version is glorious - A real lump in the throat job. Delighted for him.
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