nerrawBasic Member Posts:475
8/15/2006 10:41 AM |
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Pilchard, I've been working in a newsroom for the last two years, I just don't feel the need to mention it.
Praising someone for writing about MCD? You're having a laugh. If you're going to praise a journalist, make sure its for something that is actually dangerous or reveals something new.
As I said, if the copy is accurate and true why is it not printed? MCD can't sue. The Irish Times, Sunday Times, Independent, Sunday Mirror all printed stuff free from this 'remarkable' pressure.
Thus, my suspicion is that the few papers that haven't printed anything are doing it for commercial reasons. One story, that's already been covered, sacrificed for the sake of a good relationship with MCD? Tempting.
And not refering to Una's tale of woe
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
8/15/2006 10:51 AM |
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Nerraw - I'm just saying that certain things are harder to write about than others, so fair play to the people who have actually done it, that is all.
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
8/15/2006 10:58 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Pilchard
there also seems to be also something happening with Thumped - there was a lengthy thread today about Boards and MCD which was pulled completely (and not just lockd) without any explanation whatsoever.
You're incorrect there Pilchard, the thread was locked but it's currently on the second item on the second page of the general forum (just under the thread you started asking where the thread had gone). http://www.thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=38716
Pete, who runs Thumped, will let people get away with posting pretty much anything, and considering the amount of piss taking that goes on over there the vast majority of stuff on it could probably have a parody defence applied to it. There's a fantastically vicous anti-Frames thread buried there somewhere dating from when the last album came out that puts anything anyone has ever posted here to shame.
However what I can gather he doesn't like/need hassle arising from the site impinging on his real life from and he may have just put a stop to things on the off chance MCD felt like launching another ridiculous lawsuit. Which I guess is fair enough.
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nerrawBasic Member Posts:475
8/15/2006 10:59 AM |
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I agree 100% Una, no complaints here.
Bad break with the story, it's a pain in the @rse when a story is pulled for no legitimate reason (in the eyes of the journalist.)
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
8/15/2006 11:02 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by nerraw
Praising someone for writing about MCD? You're having a laugh. If you're going to praise a journalist, make sure its for something that is actually dangerous or reveals something new.
i NEVER said "praise - dont put words in my mouth nerraw. i said "respect", something totally different to praise.
Unicorn wrote...
> You're incorrect there Pilchard, the thread was locked but it's currently on the second
> item on the second page of the general forum (just under the thread you started asking > where the thread had gone). http://www.thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=38716
no, unicorn, i'm refering to a thread which was running yesterday on MCD suing Boards which was pulled/deleted. i started the thread, it got to four or five pages and was then yanked. the thread that is currently there is the 2nd or 3rd thread on this.
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
8/15/2006 11:06 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Pilchard
no, unicorn, i'm refering to a thread which was running yesterday on MCD suing Boards which was pulled/deleted. i started the thread, it got to four or five pages and was then yanked. the thread that is currently there is the 2nd or 3rd thread on this.
Ah Ok, I stand corrected. Apologies.
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petethumpedNew Member Posts:4
8/15/2006 11:55 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Pilchardno, unicorn, i'm refering to a thread which was running yesterday on MCD suing Boards which was pulled/deleted. i started the thread, it got to four or five pages and was then yanked. the thread that is currently there is the 2nd or 3rd thread on this.
evenin
the thread in question was pulled because it needed some serious tidying up and i didn't have the time to do it right then. It's all sorted now and has since been merged with its clone...
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ctrlaltdeleteBasic Member Posts:268
8/16/2006 5:35 PM |
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Thumped has joined the Boards ban of all mentions of MCD gigs.
http://www.thumped.com/bbs/announcement.php?f=5
Is Cluas going to do the same? hmmmmmmm
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deraBasic Member Posts:163
8/16/2006 6:08 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by ctrlaltdelete
Thumped has joined the Boards ban of all mentions of MCD gigs.
http://www.thumped.com/bbs/announcement.php?f=5
Is Cluas going to do the same? hmmmmmmm
the reasoning given in that link is rather appealing, isn't it?
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
8/16/2006 7:56 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by dera
quote: Originally posted by ctrlaltdelete
Thumped has joined the Boards ban of all mentions of MCD gigs.
http://www.thumped.com/bbs/announcement.php?f=5
Is Cluas going to do the same? hmmmmmmm
the reasoning given in that link is rather appealing, isn't it?
yep, its much smarter and clever-er than Boards - especially identifying the fact that various MCD people do use Thumped to plug their smaller gigs (ie Whelan's, TBMC, Village, Sugar Club etc). Good move on thumped's part
its interesting that this story has not yet been picked up by ireland's bloggers. ive seen absolutely nothing on any blog (bar Blogorrah) about this. So much for blogs being the new rock & roll......
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petethumpedNew Member Posts:4
8/16/2006 9:17 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by ctrlaltdelete
Thumped has joined the Boards ban of all mentions of MCD gigs.
I just to clarify this point - I decided to take this action yesterday, completely independently of anything boards.ie are doing. It just took me a while to phrase the announcement properly.... I don't write good, see.
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petethumpedNew Member Posts:4
8/16/2006 9:19 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by petethumped
quote: Originally posted by ctrlaltdelete
Thumped has joined the Boards ban of all mentions of MCD gigs.
I just to clarify this point - I decided to take this action yesterday, completely independently of anything boards.ie are doing. It just took me a while to phrase the announcement properly.... I don't write good, see.
and almost as if on cue, he fails to properly construct a sentence.
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
8/17/2006 11:08 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by petethumped
quote: Originally posted by petethumped
quote: Originally posted by ctrlaltdelete
Thumped has joined the Boards ban of all mentions of MCD gigs.
I just to clarify this point - I decided to take this action yesterday, completely independently of anything boards.ie are doing. It just took me a while to phrase the announcement properly.... I don't write good, see.
and almost as if on cue, he fails to properly construct a sentence.
I thukned that you was being ironical Pete.
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nerrawBasic Member Posts:475
8/17/2006 11:48 AM |
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It's all getting a bit ridiculous at this stage. Thumped are clearly jumping on the mcd are w**kers bandwagon.
You can't beat MCD, accept it and move on. Banning any mention of their name or gigs won't work. I'm still going to find out if Daft Punk etc are playing.
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
8/17/2006 11:55 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by nerraw
It's all getting a bit ridiculous at this stage. Thumped are clearly jumping on the mcd are w**kers bandwagon.
You can't beat MCD, accept it and move on. Banning any mention of their name or gigs won't work. I'm still going to find out if Daft Punk etc are playing.
i think u will find that thumped probably were in the MCD are wnakers bandwagon when it first started out.
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palaceBasic Member Posts:392
8/17/2006 12:05 PM |
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i thought thumped started the "mcd are wnakers" bandwagon?
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nerrawBasic Member Posts:475
8/17/2006 12:12 PM |
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MCD were always w**kers, no-one can claim they started it. I was refering to the current 'crisis' which will be forgotten about in a few weeks.
Anyway, bit hypocritical to complain about MCD restricting freedom of speech and then doing the very same on the tenuous basis that it is free advertising.
Won't solve a thing. People will, incredible as it may sound, still talk about upcoming gigs and find out about gigs. Its the internet
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palaceBasic Member Posts:392
8/17/2006 12:25 PM |
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ah no, the underlying message in pete's post is "don't fcuk with thumped, we have been more or less ignoring you anyway so now we will completely ignore you"... or at least, that's how i choose to read it... i reckon it goes back to the independent promoters thing... get behind them and soon mcd will slowly start losing its stranglehold on the good gigs... let them keep the big s**te
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
8/17/2006 12:30 PM |
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what palace said and then some
a couple of MCD people regularly use Thumped to plug their gigs. theyre even seen as part of the Thumped community. what this does is makes them think a little about what their employer is trying to doing to other online communities.
and no, nerraw, this "crisis" will not be gone and dusted in a couple of weeks. no matter how much u choose to believe Justin Green/MCD publicity or how good they may be at hushing things up, this story will be dug up at every opportunity from now on. When Oxegen 2007 is announced? "Last year's event was marred by events on the campsite. When it sells out? "However, after Oxegen 2006, allegations were made about serious unrest on Campsite A". And dont forget the news reports if the Boards.ie thing ends up in court.
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nerrawBasic Member Posts:475
8/17/2006 1:06 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Pilchard
and no, nerraw, this "crisis" will not be gone and dusted in a couple of weeks. no matter how much u choose to believe Justin Green/MCD publicity or how good they may be at hushing things up, this story will be dug up at every opportunity from now on. When Oxegen 2007 is announced? "Last year's event was marred by events on the campsite. When it sells out? "However, after Oxegen 2006, allegations were made about serious unrest on Campsite A". And dont forget the news reports if the Boards.ie thing ends up in court.
Justin Green is a God to me, sure why wouldn't I believe him? I love MCD and their customer focus way of doing business.
You just proved by point:
"When it sells out? "However, after Oxegen 2006, allegations were made about serious unrest on Campsite A".
Exactly, 2007 will sell out no problem and MCD won't give a toss and neither will the 70,000 about an added caveat in some newspaper about a few tents going on fire in 12 months ago.
Serious unrest? The vast majority of people didn't realise there was 'riots.' A few oul wans calling Joe Duffy. Such was the serious unrest one paper had to make up photos to illustrate it.
Just going to agree to disagree on this.
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