Unicron Veteran Member Posts:1696  
| 12/11/2005 2:27 PM |
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They had better have been King or Tayto; Walkers scare me with their myriad range of exotic flavours which I suspect have something to do with Britain's colonial past.
But I do so love Prawn Cocktail flavour anything (depite hating real prawn cocktail).
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dera Basic Member Posts:163
| 12/11/2005 4:27 PM |
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Originally posted by seanc
What kind of crisps were they???
Sour Cream and Onion? ;) |
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Pilchard Advanced Member Posts:699
| 12/12/2005 9:22 AM |
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Originally posted by thomas
I agree, but my point is that at this stage in Humanzis short career it'll be mostly the other bands who want to knock them. I'd bet all the money in the world that 80% of negitive comments about Humanzi made on websites at the moment are made by musicians or people with an association with another band. I think Shaun shouldn't waste his energy on negative comments as he will get them no matter how good his band is.
i can say hand on heart that i have no association whatsoever with any band or act. never purchased them a bag of crisps, never gave them change for a pack of cigs
so i think i fall into that 20 percent of people who question humanzi on simple musical grounds - ie they're not very good. they do not have the substance required to back up all these high expectations that they themselves have talked up.
as mr green quite rightly pointed out, it took u2 2 or 3 albums to find their feet. but that was 20 or 25 years ago - bands simply DO NOT get the same amount of time to get their s**t together now. if humanzi's debut album doesnt sell in huge quantities, the backlash kicks in. if it does sell by the million, the backlash kicks in too but at least the band can have a good laugh at it,
but to have the lead singer coming out right now and blasting all and sundry (especially faceless anonymous feckers on internet forums) shows a welcome, though i must admit alarming, sense of self-importance. get over in man. stop reading stuff on the web. spend your time writing decent songs. or combing your hair |
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jaypers New Member Posts:95
| 12/12/2005 11:32 AM |
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Originally posted by Pilchard
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Originally posted by thomas
I agree, but my point is that at this stage in Humanzis short career it'll be mostly the other bands who want to knock them. I'd bet all the money in the world that 80% of negitive comments about Humanzi made on websites at the moment are made by musicians or people with an association with another band. I think Shaun shouldn't waste his energy on negative comments as he will get them no matter how good his band is.
fair
i can say hand on heart that i have no association whatsoever with any band or act. never purchased them a bag of crisps, never gave them change for a pack of cigs
so i think i fall into that 20 percent of people who question humanzi on simple musical grounds - ie they're not very good. they do not have the substance required to back up all these high expectations that they themselves have talked up.
as mr green quite rightly pointed out, it took u2 2 or 3 albums to find their feet. but that was 20 or 25 years ago - bands simply DO NOT get the same amount of time to get their s**t together now. if humanzi's debut album doesnt sell in huge quantities, the backlash kicks in. if it does sell by the million, the backlash kicks in too but at least the band can have a good laugh at it,
but to have the lead singer coming out right now and blasting all and sundry (especially faceless anonymous feckers on internet forums) shows a welcome, though i must admit alarming, sense of self-importance. get over in man. stop reading stuff on the web. spend your time writing decent songs. or combing your hair
What the f**k has his hair got to do with it ye dope!
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
| 12/12/2005 11:40 AM |
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Originally posted by jaypers
What the f**k has his hair got to do with it ye dope!
about as much as calling someone expressing opinions u dont agree with "a dope".
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jaypersNew Member Posts:95
| 12/12/2005 11:42 AM |
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is this a music site or fashion site?
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DromedAdvanced Member Posts:900
| 12/12/2005 12:32 PM |
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I love Humanzi and think their music is amazing (even if I am biased!). I don't think you can call someone paranoid when the truth is that they've had the backs ripped off them on just about every website other than this one (well, up to now anyway!). When i say ripped off..I don't mean people saying they don't like the music..everyone's entitled to their opintion and Humanzi would be as respectful of that as anyone. What I am referring to are previous instances where people that know the band in some way, such as from where they live, people they went to school with, people that know them from boozers they drink in or used to drink in, going online to make snide personal comments. I think that's really low. Also there have been comments on their personal lives, how they look etc. which have been really nasty. You can't say don't read the internet because if you're into you're music and love other Irish bands and want to know what's going on in the world...why should you have to avoid reading Irish music sites at all costs so you don't read what your neighbour really thinks about you or what you did on someone when you were 12 that they never forgot!!
Humanzi believe that they are a brilliant band, like any band believes in itself. There's many who agree and some that don't, but getting below the belt and scrabbling for some clever 'Oh I knew them before they were signed and wait until you hear what i know about them' bulls**t is pathetic. Dublin can be one horrible claustrophobic village sometimes.
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WhoMeBasic Member Posts:191
| 12/12/2005 1:01 PM |
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hey dromed, you speak the truth and i agree with what your saying. I havent seen any of the nasty stuff your talking about on other sites but it sounds like things are getting a bit too personal, thats deffo not cool.
Still, on this website i think it hasnt gotten to that stage, i hope it doesnt.
Anyways, people on this website praise alot of irish bands and slag alot of irish bands, a fair balance which makes it seem like people like to share their honest opinions. I think people are entitled to their opinions good and bad.
Humazni have been around now for over a year on the dublin scene anyway and have played alot of gigs. At least 3 songs/clips have been posted on their website so i do believe that people have had the chance to hear enough and be able to say whether they like them or not without being called and irish begrudger.
I think its too easy to tell people they are just being jealious and begrudging a fellow irish act.
I think they put on a great show, probably wouldnt rock my boat at home on my stereo but i still wish them all the luck in the world and i hope they ignore the nasty personal things said about them on websites. But, they are big boys now, and like all the other bands out there they will have to face tough critics, ie, the music buying public.
I dont think the y should mention silly message boards in their interviews in future. It just sounds a bit lame to be honest.
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crazyeyeskillahNew Member Posts:7
| 12/12/2005 1:52 PM |
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if looking at forum posts and msg boards in general are so insignificant why do we all do it so much? we are all losers. well done.
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WhoMeBasic Member Posts:191
| 12/12/2005 2:04 PM |
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Well i personaly do it to pass the time in work, dont know about you buddy.
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DromedAdvanced Member Posts:900
| 12/12/2005 3:15 PM |
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Originally posted by WhoMe
Well i personaly do it to pass the time in work, dont know about you buddy.
Round these parts, we call that a mental health scheme!!! Which I fully support. |
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WhoMeBasic Member Posts:191
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nerrawBasic Member Posts:475
| 12/12/2005 4:31 PM |
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You can't but think the abuse they are getting is unfair seeing as no-one here has heard the album. it is simple as that.
I saw them supporting the pixies and they were the most exciting irish band i've seen. Makes a change from the dire s**te whelans turn out in the band room.
As for being loyal to them. fvck that, be loyal to good bands if you must. That is why the irish music scene is a bit turgid, as people believe they must support irish bands. bring in decent bands, not irish bands.
Phew, rant over. I do think he is a bit silly complaining about an internet message board. you are on tour with an album coming out, quit moaning about what strangers say about you
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defectorNew Member Posts:41
| 12/12/2005 6:42 PM |
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Yeah, I agree with you. Humanzi are a really great Rock n' Roll band . Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I agree you would have to at least wait and hear their album in full before totally writing them off. People seem to be slating them for their appearance, past, associations or whatever. Just wait until you have heard it and if you think it's s**te fair enough
I'm glad at least that they have been given a platform on which they can have decent shot at building a career in music. That is no mean feat and they should be applauded. I think they have great potential for long career exploring various musical styles They are all multi instrumentalists and very talented. So far f**ks to them, they could open doors for the rest of us...
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deraBasic Member Posts:163
| 12/12/2005 7:21 PM |
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Originally posted by defector
So far f**ks to them, they could open doors for the rest of us...
You mean if it doesn't work out for them?
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DamienBasic Member Posts:316
| 12/13/2005 5:18 AM |
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All this argument has shook me out of my lethargy. I hadn't heard any Humanzi since the first time they did HWCH, but I went to their myspace account and gave them a listen. Sounds super.
I wouldn't say the interview made him seem paranoid, perhaps a little thin-skinned, and you're bound to be like that in the beginning. Can't say I've seen many people slagging them off though.
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WhoMeBasic Member Posts:191
| 12/13/2005 8:33 AM |
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"People seem to be slating them for their appearance, past, associations or whatever. Just wait until you have heard it and if you think it's s**te fair enough"-----------NOT ON THIS F*CKING WEBSITE :-(
WHy do people keep on saying "wait until you hear the album" Jeez, how many other bands get slated in this town just because of their live shows or samples on their website. Why do humanzi need special treatment. So can we not judge any band until they release an album. Humanzi have been around for long enough and i personaly have seen them play 5 times(and enjoyed every gig). Can i still not have an opinion of them until they release an album.
Or, when you hear people going on about how brilliant they are, do you say, WAIT UNTIL THE ALBUM COMES OUT
How many of yis have seen a tune on MTV and said "Theyre Sh*T" based on just hearing a couple of seconds of a tune. We are all guilty of that. People know what they like and it doesnt take an entire finished album to help us come to a conclusion.
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DamienBasic Member Posts:316
| 12/13/2005 10:20 AM |
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Originally posted by WhoMe
WHy do people keep on saying "wait until you hear the album" Jeez, how many other bands get slated in this town just because of their live shows or samples on their website. Why do humanzi need special treatment. So can we not judge any band until they release an album. Humanzi have been around for long enough and i personaly have seen them play 5 times(and enjoyed every gig). Can i still not have an opinion of them until they release an album.
Or, when you hear people going on about how brilliant they are, do you say, WAIT UNTIL THE ALBUM COMES OUT
How many of yis have seen a tune on MTV and said "Theyre Sh*T" based on just hearing a couple of seconds of a tune. We are all guilty of that. People know what they like and it doesnt take an entire finished album to help us come to a conclusion.
You can judge any band on any criteria you like, but you can judge them properly when you've heard an album by them. In most cases hearing a single song is enough to make a rough judgement about whether you're going bother with a band, but it doesn't really give grounds to start engraving their headstone. Likewise hearing a band live doesn't give the same perspective as repeated listens to an album.
Given the standard of junk on MTV I don't think last point is valid to this argument, unless we're letting Westlife and Girls Aloud into the argument.
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WhoMeBasic Member Posts:191
| 12/13/2005 10:42 AM |
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well i dunno about that, the new humanzi single is on MTV alot recently :-)
So how many times will i need to listen to the album before i can have an opinion. Do you give every band you hear repeated listens, i doubt it. Im sure there are a load of bands you have dismissed without giving their albums repeated listens. And i have said, i have seen them 5 times, heard 2 of their recorded songs, can i still not have an opinion, good or bad
Do you refuse to have opinions on any band until you have heard their albums in the entirety after repeated listens. GIVE ME A BREAK
Also, the fact that Humanzi are up for a meteor+ MTV award award allows me to believe that they are ready to have an opinion of themselves
Also, since when do we have to judge a band by their album. Music is music, why isnt seeing them live enough to have an opinion. just a thought
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DamienBasic Member Posts:316
| 12/13/2005 11:09 AM |
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Originally posted by WhoMe
well i dunno about that, the new humanzi single is on MTV alot recently :-)
So how many times will i need to listen to the album before i can have an opinion. Do you give every band you hear repeated listens, i doubt it. Im sure there are a load of bands you have dismissed without giving their albums repeated listens. And i have said, i have seen them 5 times, heard 2 of their recorded songs, can i still not have an opinion, good or bad
Do you refuse to have opinions on any band until you have heard their albums in the entirety after repeated listens. GIVE ME A BREAK
Also, the fact that Humanzi are up for a meteor+ MTV award award allows me to believe that they are ready to have an opinion of themselves
Also, since when do we have to judge a band by there album. Music is music, why isnt seeing them live enough to have an opinion. just a thought
Don't go taking the easy way out of the argument by pretending I'm giving you orders or laying down rules for music appreciation. You know full well what I'm talking about, that it's impossible to judge a band properly from a couple of songs on a website, that live performances can vary greatly from gig to gig and that even then the listeners can tend to be quite hammered. The most concrete way to judge a band is upon listening to the album, something that any band is gaurenteed to have put a lot of time and effort into because they want to to accurately represent their sound, and then continue or discontinue listening to it depending on what it does for you.
I'm not questioning your own personal judgement, I don't know you or your tastes.
It is entirely possible to form opinions of a band from live shows and the odd song, everyone does. But theres a difference between opinions and informed opinions. |
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