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JJ72 split
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6/22/2006 1:54 PM
    They burst on the scene with all the hype and spin of a spiral galaxy but its all gone down the black hole now........where's Hilary these days anyway? A statement from the band reads as follows: Reader, we are to let thee know, JJ72's body only lies below; For could the grave JJ's soul comprise, Earth would be richer than the skies. "JJ72 was born during an Easter many seasons ago; today it dies on the cusp of midsummer eleven years later. "Mark Greaney, Fergal Matthews & Sarah Fox wish to express their deepest and darkest gratitude to all of those with impeccable taste who helped and supported the band. "We remember everything, from mechanical birds in Japan to angels in arid Arizona, from broken bones and Berlin birthdays to predatory Portsmouth spiders. For those who disliked and perhaps despised (gasp) JJ72, thank you - how did beautiful photographs exist without a negative?! We crafted two monuments of magnificence for the future aural pleasure and pain of all would be JJ believers and doubters....and for those who care not for the passing of the petulant yet powerful pup....shame on you! Thank you to Hilary Woods for being a dazzling damsel and thank you to all who played music in/with the band. You know who you are. "
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    6/22/2006 1:59 PM
    :(
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    6/22/2006 2:21 PM
    Boo hoo
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    6/22/2006 4:12 PM
    I assumed that they'd split years ago. Is that press release a p*sstake? What a bunch of self obsessed, pretentious talentless c*nts. Good Riddance.
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    6/22/2006 4:57 PM
    great headline on the Drowned In Sound story JJ72 split; world's turn unaffected by non-existent aftershocks http://www.drownedinsound.com/content/view/938351
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    6/22/2006 5:06 PM
    couldnt agree more stroller,
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    6/22/2006 5:24 PM
    have to agree that the statement is a bit ridiculous, its got to be a bit tongue in cheek surely, its like its written by a dreamy 13 year old.
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    6/22/2006 5:33 PM
    You missed out the most important bit of that pr release, the final line where they admit they are arguing with their label over money in regard to their latest release. As Heather Mills might say, all you need is cash.
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    6/22/2006 6:39 PM
    :( i liked jj72
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    6/22/2006 6:52 PM
    Bollocks and I loved I To Sk
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    6/22/2006 9:08 PM
    Ass wholes
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    6/23/2006 12:18 PM
    yet another classic case of decent irish band (arrogant & self indulgent F**kers? yes!)being poorly handled and marketed by an irish label, once again highlighting the absolute bo**ox that is the Irish Music "industry". Absolutely appalling Press Release however.. if its serious, then its the worst press release ever.
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    6/23/2006 12:28 PM
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    Originally posted by thethirdplace
    yet another classic case of decent irish band (arrogant & self indulgent F**kers? yes!)being poorly handled and marketed by an irish label, once again highlighting the absolute bo**ox that is the Irish Music "industry". Absolutely appalling Press Release however.. if its serious, then its the worst press release ever.
    "poorly handled and marketed"??? thanks to this record company who "poorly handed and marketed" JJ72, the band sold over 500,000 copies of their debut album! I know many, many bands who would love to be that "poorly handled and marketed". the problem with JJ72 was that after this very successful debut, they then went off and recorded one of the worst, most self-indulgent, piss-poor irish albums ever. not even ALL in the record labels in the world coming together could sell that one. the fault lies with the band, not the label - write some hits and then people will buy them. its so typical of idiot irish musicians to blame the labels for their own short-comings.
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    6/23/2006 12:31 PM
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    yet another classic case of decent irish band (arrogant & self indulgent F**kers? yes!)being poorly handled and marketed by an irish label, once again highlighting the absolute bo**ox that is the Irish Music "industry". Absolutely appalling Press Release however.. if its serious, then its the worst press release ever.
    how do you market a turd?
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    6/23/2006 12:56 PM
    Their debut was a fantastic album and their new stuff was really good. Some people hated them because they were pretty and didn´t give a f**k about being an underdog. Sometimes you can´t win. One of the best Irish bands live.
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    6/23/2006 2:02 PM
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    One of the best Irish bands live.
    I'm not so sure I'd agree with you there. I remember seeing them at Witnness in 2000 and at the climax of their set the lead singer decided to smash up his guitar. The only problem being that the skinny little guy was barely strong enough to lift the damn thing and no matter how hard he flung it against the speaker he could barely break a string let alone break his axe in half. After about a dozen attempts he had to leave the stage and his still intact guitar behind him. To this day it's still one of the funniest things I've ever seen at a gig.
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    6/23/2006 2:06 PM
    Speaking of JJ72 axe smashing I saw them play at Slane one year and throughout the gig Mark Greany was playing a succession of black fender strats. It came to the last song and out comes a white one which he then proceeds to destroy, to this day I'm sure he saved money by breaking a cheaper squire model.
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    6/23/2006 2:25 PM
    Kurt Cobain did that trick the whole time
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    6/23/2006 5:09 PM
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    Their debut was a fantastic album and their new stuff was really good. Some people hated them because they were pretty and didn´t give a f**k about being an underdog. Sometimes you can´t win. One of the best Irish bands live.
    Pretty? Fair enough. You've lost me on that one. I don't think it's cos they're as you say 'pretty'; I think it might be the fact they were just unspeakably awful. That guy's voice! Nails being scraped down a blackboard sounds soothing in comparison! Good riddance to the conceited twats.
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    6/23/2006 5:15 PM
    right so!! I am a nerd! I liked I to Sky. With exception of Serpent whatever ya call it Track four I really never got the backlash to it!.......... i was probably still lookin for the third place!
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    6/23/2006 6:04 PM
    So I guess they never did figure out why it wouldn't snow that time.
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    6/23/2006 7:19 PM
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    Originally posted by thethirdplace
    yet another classic case of decent irish band (arrogant & self indulgent F**kers? yes!)being poorly handled and marketed by an irish label, once again highlighting the absolute bo**ox that is the Irish Music "industry". Absolutely appalling Press Release however.. if its serious, then its the worst press release ever.
    "poorly handled and marketed"??? thanks to this record company who "poorly handed and marketed" JJ72, the band sold over 500,000 copies of their debut album! I know many, many bands who would love to be that "poorly handled and marketed". the problem with JJ72 was that after this very successful debut, they then went off and recorded one of the worst, most self-indulgent, piss-poor irish albums ever. not even ALL in the record labels in the world coming together could sell that one. the fault lies with the band, not the label - write some hits and then people will buy them. its so typical of idiot irish musicians to blame the labels for their own short-comings.
    I shall say again that I To Sky is an epic classic that I keep coming back to. In my opinion one of the top 10 Irish albums of all time Oh yeah I said it. And yes I thought that before yesterday.
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    6/24/2006 3:15 AM
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    Originally posted by Garret In my opinion one of the top 10 Irish albums of all time Oh yeah I said it. And yes I thought that before yesterday.
    That's alright, you were wrong before yesterday too :P In other "best Irish album ever" news today was the day, after having it for ages, that I finally "got" Loveless and saw what the fuss is about. Just like *snap* <- that. Wow.
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    6/25/2006 10:32 PM
    JJ72 splitting doesn't really surprise me. They kind of just exploded onto the scene, then totally lost momentum. A band I wanted to hate, but annoyingly were actually quite good, say what you like, they had some damn good, proper rock riffs. The lyrics were stupid, petulant and teenage (a reflection of their author?) but that was kinda part of the charm. JJ72 RIP: Great riffs, crap live.
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    6/26/2006 12:29 AM
    In honour of them splitting up I've just pulled out their debut and it's getting it's first spin in about 4 years. It's really not good. It seems they overcame the obstacle of having a bassist who couldn't play by putting the bass REALLY low in the mix, interesting tactic for a 3 piece. I'm on track 5 and this is the first time I actually heard it. I presume Sarah Fox had to be far more capable. I'm a bassist in the loosest sense of the the word but wow.
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    6/26/2006 12:32 AM
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    In honour of them splitting up I've just pulled out their debut and it's getting it's first spin in about 4 years.
    WWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYY WON'T IT SNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW???
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    6/27/2006 10:54 AM
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    Some people hated them because they were pretty and didn´t give a f**k about being an underdog.
    Yeah, I'm sure that's why people hated them. They were just too damn hot. Hilarious statement (JJ72's not Una's but a close second nonetheless
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    6/27/2006 1:31 PM
    I immediately knew when I read the subject line of this email that there would be a huge backlash against the band. Firstly, just to clarify I'm not a fan. I think the reason there's such a mass intolerence against the JJ's is that they are, infact, one of the very very few Irish bands to really break out of this country and recieve acclaim abroad. Perhaps that acclaim is undeserved, perhaps not, that at this point is irrelevant, but it was attained all the same. It's typical begrudgery perhaps fueled by the unfounded success they were attracting. For a while, and quite suddenly, JJ72 were one of the most important bands in Ireland, and were gaining steady success over the water. It's very easy to begrudge success, and the JJ's didnt really have the material (imo) or the mainstream hype behind them to sustain it. I think it's a shame they've broken up. It's sort of like someone losing their job for reasons that are totally out of their control. I wouldnt wish that on anyone. Music isn't a competative sport and they weren't doing any harm by doing what they were doing, like them or not. (PS) Just a thought...Irish band, success abroad, national begrudgery....... Anyone else think we're going to see history repeat itself with the Thrills?
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    6/27/2006 2:02 PM
    It's not begrudgery. This accuastion comes up every single time a large group of people dislike a band. "Typical Irish, begruding etc." It's such a tired cliche and a predictable reaction. Some people liked them, some people thought they were crap. Whether they are Irish or not has no relevance. "We crafted two monuments of magnificence for the future aural pleasure and pain of all would be JJ believers and doubters....and for those who care not for the passing of the petulant yet powerful pup....shame on you!" That statement is enough for the whole country to hate them
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    6/27/2006 2:20 PM
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    I immediately knew when I read the subject line of this email that there would be a huge backlash against the band. Firstly, just to clarify I'm not a fan. I think the reason there's such a mass intolerence against the JJ's is that they are, infact, one of the very very few Irish bands to really break out of this country and recieve acclaim abroad. Perhaps that acclaim is undeserved, perhaps not, that at this point is irrelevant, but it was attained all the same. It's typical begrudgery perhaps fueled by the unfounded success they were attracting. For a while, and quite suddenly, JJ72 were one of the most important bands in Ireland, and were gaining steady success over the water. It's very easy to begrudge success, and the JJ's didnt really have the material (imo) or the mainstream hype behind them to sustain it. I think it's a shame they've broken up. It's sort of like someone losing their job for reasons that are totally out of their control. I wouldnt wish that on anyone. Music isn't a competative sport and they weren't doing any harm by doing what they were doing, like them or not. (PS) Just a thought...Irish band, success abroad, national begrudgery....... Anyone else think we're going to see history repeat itself with the Thrills?
    its not irish begrudgery - people in many other countries thought they were s**t too
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    6/27/2006 3:28 PM
    "its not irish begrudgery - people in many other countries thought they were s**t too" obviously several hundred thousand people in other countries didn't think they were that 's**t' if they bought the record. The ire directed towards them always bemused me. Especially because all most people could come up is "his voice is annoying" "they are annoying" "they are arrogant" etc, and stuff of that flavour. Hmm, dunno. Whatever, nevermind.
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    6/27/2006 4:00 PM
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    "its not irish begrudgery - people in many other countries thought they were s**t too" obviously several hundred thousand people in other countries didn't think they were that 's**t' if they bought the record. The ire directed towards them always bemused me. Especially because all most people could come up is "his voice is annoying" "they are annoying" "they are arrogant" etc, and stuff of that flavour. Hmm, dunno. Whatever, nevermind.
    i think, una, that u have already provided the best reason why people didnt like them - "they were pretty". it will make a great epitaph for them - JJ72 "they were pretty". case closed.
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    6/27/2006 4:39 PM
    Pretty average.


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