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is anyone going to psychofest?!
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10/19/2005 1:08 PM
    im interested to know folks perception of this event. i think its gonna be an historical day. but then i would say that..discuss?
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    10/19/2005 1:23 PM
    Probably not as historical as the Berlin wall falling, but I was going to stroll along.
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    10/19/2005 1:26 PM
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    im interested to know folks perception of this event. i think its gonna be an historical day. but then i would say that..discuss?
    About 5 of us heading in. Really looking forward it. Great idea. Dare I say, shame its in Voodoo & not more central.
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    10/19/2005 1:26 PM
    Looking forward to this mini-sleaze-festival of dirty rock'n'roll!!!
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    10/19/2005 1:35 PM
    I shall be in attendence also! Altho my attendence shall be cut short as ive to f**k off to dj at 10pm... But still! I'll catch some of it!
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    10/19/2005 2:39 PM
    I'll post here, rather than the gig section. The timetable is up in the gig section. Seems like its bands til 8.15, then dj sets from then on ? The bands I wanted to see are on after 8, does this mean they wont be playing, only spinning ?
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    10/19/2005 2:51 PM
    Yep! Looking forward to this meself...gonna go early doors aswell, love a good all day-er. I think it's a great idea and I like voodoo. But I thought the first band was supposed to be at 2.30? I was gonna go at this time but dont think i'll bother now till 4, if thats when the bands start. Also theres a few bands knocking about lately that I haven't seen live yet...good opportunity to see them all in one go.
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    10/19/2005 3:25 PM
    Last band ends at 12.45am (there's a changeover of equipment at 8.15pm for a half hour and then bands start up again - and for those that get down early there's a free compiliation cd with a track from each band (some exclusively for the event) at the door for the first 100 in!!
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    10/19/2005 3:52 PM
    Cheers Dromed, Was a bit confussed with the way 'DJs' appears half thru the time table.
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    10/19/2005 4:22 PM
    yeh defo goin, gonna be f**kin deadly, really lookin forward to seein Twin Kranes for the first time cuz the tunes i've heard were f**kin great, Sickboy are a great excuse to get there early and get the session rollin, yes she should be a gud un alright!
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    10/19/2005 4:53 PM
    yea ive heard good things about the Sickboy lot - and only a young bunch of boys too... should be class alright!
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    10/20/2005 12:12 PM
    sickboy are f**king tops. i too am lookng forward to seein twin cranes live. and i havent seen stagger lee in ages so im well up for that. but to be honest theres nothing im not looking forward to seein. the whole thing is bein filmed and a documnmetary dvd type thing is being put together, if thats done proper id say it will make a lovely little nugget of underground music history. so if you see the cameras lurking about act 'cool' or 'mad' or 'beautiful' and get your ass on telly. the berlin wall?? whats that daddy?
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    10/20/2005 12:14 PM
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    the whole thing is bein filmed and a documnmetary dvd type thing is being put together, if thats done proper id say it will make a lovely little nugget of underground music history. so if you see the cameras lurking about act 'cool' or 'mad' or 'beautiful' and get your ass on telly.
    hahhhaha Thats pretty cool tho man. Good f**king idea. Nice to see there being so much put into this. Kudos to the organisers for sure.
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    10/20/2005 2:37 PM
    sounds like it's going to be some session!! who's is being filmed for, anyone?? although voodoo is slightly off the beaten track i reckon it's the perfect location for a festival of sleaze. keep us a burger.
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    10/20/2005 5:31 PM
    Its gonna be brilliant everyone involved has been plotting and planning this for ages, now we're all just looking forward, just make sure that you don't peak too early its gonna be a late one............
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    10/21/2005 6:55 AM
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    the berlin wall?? whats that daddy?
    Ask Stazi, they sound like they'd know.
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    10/23/2005 11:45 AM
    missed most of this cos of a load of other stuff i had to do. Got to see "The Mighty Poxy Stef" though, f**king class as usual. That dude is seriously good, just oozes charisma, and the voice and tunes are amazing. Saw Mainline too, yawn! good for some fashion tips maybe (probably not though!) n thats about it.
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    10/24/2005 9:24 AM
    T'was a great night - fair play to the Things for putting all the effort in. Surprise of the night were Capsula who were amazing - Argentinian band with sexy husband and wife team giving it socks - a sonic youth vibe with more glamour!! Sick Boy were great too, they got past sound problems and the unforgiving opening slot, to put on a great show. There was a great atmosphere in the place and the whole thing went really smoothly - here's hoping the lads willl make this an annual event - Bring on Psychofest #2!!
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    10/24/2005 9:34 AM
    Great day. Highlight of the night were the mainline for me. Great energy off them! Capsula blew me away!! Great sounds! Sick i missed Stagger Lee as my mates have been tellin me about them for ages but their tune on the pyschofest cd is stuck in me head all weekend! Great tune. What the hell was the story with Stazi? He looked like someones drunk uncle singing at a wedding. Atrocious!! Great day all the same!
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    10/24/2005 9:49 AM
    Class Class Class. Missed Capsula for shame, but was in early enough catch them soundcheck. Gonna keep as eye out for them.
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    10/24/2005 10:44 AM
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    What the hell was the story with Stazi? He looked like someones drunk uncle singing at a wedding. Atrocious!! Great day all the same!
    Wasn't feeling Stazi at all, brutal absolutely shocking. The rest of bands were quite good, Mainline surprised me & Stagger Lee were a little gem. They should have got a later slot tho, note to orgainisers..
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    10/24/2005 11:15 AM
    good to see people tipping the hat to capsula. they were truly amazing..hopefully we see them back in dublin again. every band from sickboy at 5pm to the things and stazi after midnight gave 100% does anybody think that hotpress or any other publication came along to review the psychofest?? i was there all day and i got the un-nerving feeling that this event was being comletely ignored by media. the talent of all 10 acts spoke for itself, the packed voodoo lounge surely counted for a lot too...however the absense of a bellx1 tribute act or david gray might have been the thorn in the side of the organisers that might result in this s**t never being wrote about by the irish music press.....maybe im wrong about this and there was a million eager reviewrs lurking about..but if im right i think its a serious case of peolple not doing their job properly....does anybody else have any thoughts on this matter well done to the things for organising this great event there were a lot of true music fans and a lot of true matryrs to the buzz there on saturday and everyone seemed to be having the time of thier lives..the dublin city winter..i love it xx
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    10/24/2005 11:29 AM
    Wouldn't surprise me if the Irish music meedja gave the whole thing a wide berth. As you say they (ie Hotpress) have very specific ideas on what a "good" band sounds like and thankfully not one of the bands there on Saturday fit into their insular little categories, so I think thats a feather in everyones cap for starters. It was great to see so many degenerates out in force, a breath of fresh air. B*&*OLKS to Hotpress et al, even though they weild a fair bit of power they have no clue whats happening on the underground Dublin scene, you jsut have to read their publication. An alternative is long overdue.... The organisers put paid to any chance of Hotpress reviewers turning up by having a gig anywhere other than Whelans (shock horror).....
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    10/24/2005 11:33 AM
    if your lookin for an alternative akablue, Connected magazine aint bad and its free which is always a plus.
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    10/24/2005 12:03 PM
    So did someone from Connected go on Saturday? It amazes me that the media take this weird stance - i remember having a row with someone from Hotpress once about this very fact - of them not really having a clue about what's going on in Dublin, under their very noses and I was told in no uncertain terms that it is not the job of a magazine or newspaper to turn up and report about things that they are not informed about!!! What? Talk about missing the point! Obviously it helps if the media are given good noticed about stuff that's coming up - but these events are not put on for the sake of the bloody media - they're held for people that love music. Most music fans make a point of keeping an eye on what's coming up on the internet, through print etc. I would have thought it was a basic thing that a music journalist went out of their way to know what was going on instead of waiting for word to land on their desk with a juicy invitation each time. As a consequence I've come to realise that this is the sad truth. I have been totally naive when it's come to having faith in journos. Don't kid yourself in thinking that the mainstream press have any kind of a limb near the pulse - less a finger! It's a testament however, to how hard bands work here to get some kind of exposure, when largely they are ignored.
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    10/24/2005 12:07 PM
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    if your lookin for an alternative akablue, Connected magazine aint bad and its free which is always a plus.
    Yeh s'not bad. BUT it'd be nice to have a bit more choice out there or even for the main music publication to reflect whats really going on in Dublin for a change. Saturday proves that there's so much more going on than others would have you believe & I think that 1 or 2 of the bands that played merit a least a mention in the meedja. Now I know that part of any undergroung scene thrives on word of mouth, it can be a bit of an "in the know" type thing and some people might a bit precious about it. If events like PsychoFest got lots of coverage would it lose some of its edge ? Dunno bout that but I do know that not everyone in Dublin wants to see the same stock of bands/singer songwriters night after night. Variey being the spice of life ecetra
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    10/24/2005 12:36 PM
    i reiterate dromed's question..did connected send anyone along to cover psychofest?? did anybody? im totally in agreement that its an underground thing and the acts involved are all very self sufficient. but i thinkg people would take hotpress way more seriously if they started to tap into this underground as opposed to 'my beauty routine' featuring one of the blokes out of the devlins sponsored by nivea for men ....every page is sponsored by something. maybe if mitsubishi or bavaria or apache pizza sponsored a page then some intersting acts might get written about..but till then hopefully the word of mouth will keep on keepin on
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    10/24/2005 12:39 PM
    i dont have a clue if anyone from connected was there or not. Youd think they would have been tho. Lets hope so.
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    10/24/2005 1:01 PM
    I know someone from Mongrel was there - but whether or not that was as a reviewer I aint too sure. Its absolute b****x that stuff like this - the real f**king side of Irish music - is ignored. I mean the amount of people that were there - without the backing of a marketing campaign - is testament enough that this thing was f**king big. It was a deadly night and really well run. Hats off to the organisers for the ridiculously cheap entry fee and kickin free CD. Hotpress can f**k off. They havent a clue anyway.
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    10/24/2005 1:24 PM
    I disagree. I think the answer is for us all to tone down our music untill it is acceptable.
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    10/24/2005 1:53 PM
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    I know someone from Mongrel was there - but whether or not that was as a reviewer I aint too sure. Its absolute b****x that stuff like this - the real f**king side of Irish music - is ignored. I mean the amount of people that were there - without the backing of a marketing campaign - is testament enough that this thing was f**king big. It was a deadly night and really well run. Hats off to the organisers for the ridiculously cheap entry fee and kickin free CD.
    I don't know if its a case of what type of music is more "real". To be honest what you or I might call "real" isn't necessarily "real" to everyone. Thats the great thing about music, its a diverse as people are. Personally, I love that there are so many different things going on (contrary to what Hotpress would have you believe), Saturday night being a prime example. So I think everyone's is in agreement that the Irish music meedja are a self-serving, pschyophantic lot. The whole industry seems to run on a kind of back slapping old boys network and most of us (ordinary punters) will always be on the outside of that particular private members club.
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    10/24/2005 2:00 PM
    I think its definitely a shame that Hot Press, the Ticket etc weren't there. It would have made a potentially interesting article, especially in the Ticket if they could have had maybe some interviews with the organisers etc, and it could also have opened the door for further pieces on this new scene. I dont think its right to say f**k Hotpress, they are the biggest thing out there, and should have been there. So shame on them for sure, but people like that are needed on board if the scene is ever really going to take off, and it certainly wouldnt hurt any of the artists there to be featured in that magazine. Hell if they ask nicely, i'll write a piece for the next one!
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    10/24/2005 2:17 PM
    i think its quite right to say f**k hotpress! if more people said it then maybe they would take a start and get their act together. not likely though.
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    10/24/2005 2:19 PM
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    every page is sponsored by something.
    You are aware of course that it is not the job of the print media to cover stuff, it's function is to sell advertising space.
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    10/24/2005 2:24 PM
    well there seems to be quite a few articulate and well informed individuals on this very message board who could give hotpress a run for their money if they stopped moaning long enough to do something about it. why not start up a new (long awaited) irish music mag concentrating on these underground bands - give them a voice. why be a slave to hotpiss?
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    10/24/2005 2:25 PM
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    I dont think its right to say f**k Hotpress, they are the biggest thing out there, and should have been there. So shame on them for sure
    Thats what i meant - f**k them for not giving a s**t about a bunch of bands that are really tryin to work hard and give it their all. And the use of the word 'real' was a bad choice... I'm all up for the diversity. But (and this has been said so many times) - there is much more going on now than Hotpress have ever ever given time to outside their little comfort zone and thats is a load of s**t in my opinion
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    10/24/2005 2:33 PM
    yeah i dont mean people shouldn't say f**k hotpress, im pretty pissed off myself. What i meant is that, they should be brought on board, somehow, or a viable alternative should be set up. Thats not really likely though, cos it would take a huge amount of money, and effort, to have something on the same scale as hot press. Man, hopefully if the bands keep plugging away, and more and more people start to come to gigs they will be forced to listen. not f**king likely though.
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    10/24/2005 2:50 PM
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    , they should be brought on board, somehow, or a viable alternative should be set up.
    Ah f**k that in fairness - like kiss their arse anymore than they already demand? No way man - id be up for the viable alternative alright tho. I mean I know its all give and take in this game man but when the main (only?) music press in the country cant even be arsed to come down or put some coverage on one of the best independently run nights in the country thats pretty bad. you think they'd be creaming themselves over the passion and enthusiasm of the young irish scene and the DIY ethos... but no - cause they're still creamin themselves over the same s**te they always do. I know loads of people wont agree but thats my 2 cents.
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    10/24/2005 2:55 PM
    I think Hotpress have their own interests to protect, it suits them (as an organisation) to champion certain types of music more than others. As I said its a "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" lovefest & I don't really see it changing any time soon. I don't mean that as defeatist resigination more of a perception of how things stand at the moment. I don't see it as a relevant publication, not for my musical preferences anyway. I've more respect for SMASH HITS.....it does exactly what it says on the tin!
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    10/24/2005 3:13 PM
    So does anyone have any photos of the night?? So i can see if the little I remember is accurate!!!
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    10/24/2005 3:20 PM
    Back to saturday - just want to reiterate what everyone seems to have been saying it was a f**king great day, an absolute pleasure to play, well done to the things for putting it all together and a big up to the Mighty who stole the show IMO, thanks to everyone who stayed till the end and danced like a lunatic there were quite a few of you......Pschofest2 - bring it on!
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    10/24/2005 4:12 PM
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    Originally posted by benni Ah f**k that in fairness - like kiss their arse anymore than they already demand?
    nah thats now what i mean at all. What im trying to say is that if any artists are going to make it really big, and reach a widespread audience beyond any sort of an underground scene (which isnt big enought to support any band)then they will need attention from mainstream media. be it radio, newspapers, magazines whatever. Thats what i mean, hotpress should have been there, so you have to ask why the f**k they werent and what can be done about it? Cos national coverage would be f**king great
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    10/24/2005 4:25 PM
    yea it should be but it aint Its so dissappointing You would think that they'd be so into it Besides - and its been said before... Most people into music would hardly regard hotpress as a music publication at all anymore...
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    10/24/2005 4:29 PM
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    Originally posted by benni Ah f**k that in fairness - like kiss their arse anymore than they already demand?
    nah thats now what i mean at all. What im trying to say is that if any artists are going to make it really big, and reach a widespread audience beyond any sort of an underground scene (which isnt big enought to support any band)then they will need attention from mainstream media. be it radio, newspapers, magazines whatever. Thats what i mean, hotpress should have been there, so you have to ask why the f**k they werent and what can be done about it? Cos national coverage would be f**king great
    Thats the thing Hotpress are Mainstream bigtime, while I think most bands that played on Saturday are not. As in, they are part of something that is different from what is reported between the sheets. There is something really big bubbling under the surface here at moment even though there are a core group of bands working towards a common goal (ie events like Saturday night) they are all different & edgy for it. Hotpress will never get it, they're not capable of understanding an underground scene, its beyond them. Unless of course a few of youse who played on Sat night make the bigtime, then they'll be licking your ar&^s & touting you as the next big Irish wonder.....
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    10/24/2005 4:46 PM
    isn't anyone here going to write about it for CLUAS? as I'm living outside of ireland, I'm very curious about this event from what I've read on this thread - so would someone PLEASE have a go at an article and fill us in?!?? it sounds like it was a great night...
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    10/24/2005 7:12 PM
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    well there seems to be quite a few articulate and well informed individuals on this very message board who could give hotpress a run for their money if they stopped moaning long enough to do something about it. why not start up a new (long awaited) irish music mag concentrating on these underground bands - give them a voice. why be a slave to hotpiss?
    It's not quite as simple as that but if you're willing to front me the couple of hundred thousand on a "Ian you can piss it away and never have to give it back" basis it'll take to get such an operation off the ground properly I'll give it a go. Bear in mind I've got no print media experience and don't have the temprement to drop to my knees for advertisers like HP do when you do it though.
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    10/24/2005 8:13 PM
    Have yet to see Mainline live, were they any good? They sound very watery BRMC to me, but maybe they're different on stage.
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    10/25/2005 9:14 AM
    dont really dig em myself, a lot of people do though. they got quite a good reaction. they are very BRMC ish alright, saying that though, once i lost interest i didnt really pay attention, so they could have put on a stormer behind my back.
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    10/25/2005 9:19 AM
    I was never a mainline fan,i always thought they were a case of style over substance. but the last few weeks ive really being diggin them and saturday night they blew me away. Absolutely brilliant, great front man!
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    10/25/2005 9:21 AM
    Re Mainline...I've always been a bit indifferent about them BUT i have to say I was really impressed with the gig on Saturday. Maybe it was the atmos, or the gargle but I really enjoyed their set & kinda got what all the fuss is about. Terrific stuff.
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    10/25/2005 11:14 AM
    Psycho Fest will be taking place twice a year. Psycho Fest #2 will be scheduled for the summer months, maybe June. Keep your eyes on www.psychoticreaction.moonfruit.com for more info.. Also, check out the Psychotic Reaction teams latest venture Sonic Reducer Every Thursday night @ The Basement, Spirit, Abbey St, D1 €3 a pint €2 for any shot For free passes email clubpsychoticreaction@yahoo.ie www.thethings.net NOVEMBER #1 Thurs 3rd - The Things - Sickboy - The Leather Girls Dj's #2 Thurs 10th - The Urges - Long Lost Brother -The Leather Girls Dj's #3 Thurs 17th - The Mighty Stef - Zealots - Dead Boys & Girls - The Leather Girls Dj's #4 Thurs 24th - tbc... DECEMBER #5 Thurs 1st - tbc... #6 Thurs 8th - tbc...
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    10/25/2005 9:06 PM
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    Hotpress can f**k off. They havent a clue anyway.
    Do you know just how clueless they are? I DJ every Wednesday at a Galway indie night called The Magic Number. The night's been running for three years in a night club called Cuba and since it's inception it has been included in the listings section of Hot press every Fortnight. A couple of weeks ago Cuba posted off their October listings to Hot Press. Some bright spark who works for the magazine assumed that The Magic Number featuring DJ Stroller was actually The Magic Numbers (the band) with support from DJ Stroller. They made it their featured Galway gig of the fortnight and even threw in a picture of the hirsuite siblings. All this despite the fact that Cuba had been sending in the same Wednesday night listing for the last three years. Can you imagine how many people rang up looking for tickets?
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    10/25/2005 10:11 PM
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    Hotpress can f**k off. They havent a clue anyway.
    Do you know just how clueless they are? I DJ every Wednesday at a Galway indie night called The Magic Number. The night's been running for three years in a night club called Cuba and since it's inception it has been included in the listings section of Hot press every Fortnight. A couple of weeks ago Cuba posted off their October listings to Hot Press. Some bright spark who works for the magazine assumed that The Magic Number featuring DJ Stroller was actually The Magic Numbers (the band) with support from DJ Stroller. They made it their featured Galway gig of the fortnight and even threw in a picture of the hirsuite siblings. All this despite the fact that Cuba had been sending in the same Wednesday night listing for the last three years. Can you imagine how many people rang up looking for tickets?
    That's almost too good. I'm going to be telling that one for years. Though I'll claim it as my own of course.
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    10/26/2005 8:45 AM
    I dropped Capsula a mail. Got this reply ... Thank you so so much. We enjoyed PsychoFest and Dublin like crazy. We are enchanted by the very high top level and brilliant personality of all the bands we met, saw and listen to, each one was a world to get in and enjoy in full. Psychofest is Top. Thank you for your mail and we really do love to be in Dublin again very soon. XXX Coni Capsula
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    10/26/2005 10:50 AM
    The DVD for Psycho Fest #1 will be going into enditing real soon, we are hoping to have it released for the new year. See www.psychoticreaction.moonfruit.com for more info www.thethings.net
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    10/26/2005 11:30 AM
    ok admittedly my knowledge of the process of magazine publishing is little to none and it was flippant of me to imply that a viable alternative would be an easy feat to attain but don't you find it utterly bemusing that so many years after its inauguration Hotpress continue to (almost) monopolize music magazine publication in ireland today. the only people who are going to change this are the people who have bone fide passion and confidence in the (non-mainstream) music in question. As akablue mentioned in his/her post "there is something really big bubbling under the surface" at the moment - Now, more than ever is the time to use our voices, our most powerful weapon to recify this situation for the good of irish music. I know it's a cliche but where there's a will there's a way. how do you think Punk Magazine got started in New York in the 70's ? Here's an article - interesting albeit a tad dated but this only serves to demonstrate how nothing has changed. http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/ArtsEnt/hotpress.htm
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    10/26/2005 11:55 AM
    Capsula have some pics from their set at the gig... http://www.capsula.org/photos/psycho.html
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    10/26/2005 12:10 PM
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    Originally posted by Dromed
    Capsula have some pics from their set at the gig... http://www.capsula.org/photos/psycho.html
    I liked the drummers set up. Minimalist !


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