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Una
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8/7/2005 6:10 PM
    this band is becoming moderately successful, yes? Well, in a small part of Dublin anyway it seems. But I just listened to a song on the CPU site, 'Psycho Lover' and it is woeful. Their relative popularity is bemusing.
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    8/7/2005 8:54 PM
    Yeah I cant understand it myself I saw em in Dorans last year and whilst I didnt like their music their show was good but then at Oxegen the front man was sticking his hands down his bags and the mic as well and I was like what the f**k is that all about? then I walked out and aint listened to em again
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    8/8/2005 9:11 AM
    I never really paid any attention to them (cause I really despise any kinda clicky scene s**te) until recently and I gotta say now that I have I actually like them. And I really like that Psycho Lover song. But then I am a huge fan of 80's Matchbox B-line Disaster and they are very very similar to them. And they arent just doing ok in Dublin - the last I heard they had played two fairly succesful shows in Londons The Rhythm Factory.
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    8/8/2005 9:31 AM
    aye think they're pretty good myself, definitely live anyways, not sure that i'd buy anything they've released so far. They seem to be doing well enough abroad, London, SXSW, and think they did a little tour of Europe too, mainly Germany me thinks.
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    8/8/2005 11:24 AM
    It kind of annoys me when people say bands are good live because the leadsinger runs around and does 'crazy' s**t. If their songs are bad (and from what I've heard so far, they are definately not great) then I don't wanna know.
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    8/8/2005 11:32 AM
    I have yet to see them live actually.... but in fairness sometimes there are bands who just are better live than on record - maybe because their stage performance is intrisical to how their music transfers to the listener / audience or whatever but it is true. Anyway regardless there does need to be good tunes there to begin with and I think they're doing ok. They really really sound like 80's Matchbox.. tho but then to me that could never be a bad thing.
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    8/8/2005 11:44 AM
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    I have yet to see them live actually.... but in fairness sometimes there are bands who just are better live than on record - maybe because their stage performance is intrisical to how their music transfers to the listener / audience or whatever but it is true.
    what benni said.
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    8/9/2005 10:34 AM
    Great band - tight as f**k, loads of attitude, fascinating on stage -they actually make an effort to put on a performance you'll remember. There are few bands that are as entertaining or exciting in Ireland at the moment.
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    8/9/2005 10:53 AM
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    Great band - tight as f**k, loads of attitude, fascinating on stage -they actually make an effort to put on a performance you'll remember. There are few bands that are as entertaining or exciting in Ireland at the moment.
    What she said.
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    8/9/2005 11:54 PM
    Pete Doherty went to their gig in the Rhythm Factory in London a few weeks ago - said so in NME... quite funny we were siiting outside a local pub having lunch the following day (no I wasnt at the gig) and they walked past.. i says in a faux suprised voice thats yer man from Teh Things... 2 of them looked! The omelette and chips were nice!
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    8/10/2005 9:42 AM
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    i says in a faux suprised voice thats yer man from Teh Things... 2 of them looked!
    What's your point? Two of them looked? So what. You said something loud enough for their benfit and they heard you - Is that meant to indicate something?
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    8/10/2005 3:57 PM
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    this band is becoming moderately successful, yes? Well, in a small part of Dublin anyway it seems. But I just listened to a song on the CPU site, 'Psycho Lover' and it is woeful. Their relative popularity is bemusing.
    I don't think that tune is bad at all. In all fairness all of their mp3s on that CPU site are rough live demo's that were recorded years ago when they were just starting off. I saw them live once and they made quite an impression. I'd rather see an Irish band that were influenced by the cramps and the Birthday Party than one of the countles number of c*nts who look no further then the Frames and Paddy Casey and what ever other MOR heap of sh*te that Tom Dunne is playing on Today FM this week. And I'd rather see a fontman who takes a leaf out of Iggy Pop's book than say Bell X1's Paul Noonan who looks about as comfortable on stage as an adolescent with cerebral palsy slow dancing with his sister at a wedding.
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    8/10/2005 4:06 PM
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    Bell X1's Paul Noonan who looks about as comfortable on stage as an adolescent with cerebral palsy slow dancing with his sister at a wedding.
    Strange, I'd say Noonan have improved no end, in the stage presence dept. Not sure about his 'shaping', mind.
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    8/10/2005 4:11 PM
    Sure we can all make up our minds at HWCH - they're playing on the Sunday... I think. T'will be my first time seeing them (well paying attention that is) so I'm looking forward to that one.
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    8/11/2005 1:16 AM
    rumor has it (from a few friends of mine who witnessed it) that when the things last played HWCH as soon as they started playing the whole venue emptied except for about 20 people
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    8/11/2005 1:51 AM
    the things are the f**kin best band in dublin
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    8/11/2005 8:32 AM
    THE THINGS Up-coming Live Dates August Saturday 13th: Endorset in Dorset Festival, UK (on stage 8.30pm) Saturday 20th: Psychotic Reaction, Crawdaddy, Dublin (on stage 12.30am) Sunday 21st: Whelans, Dublin (supporting Arctic Monkeys) Sunday 28th: Spirit main room, Dublin (HWCH, on stage 9.20pm to 9.50pm) September Thursday 15th: Rio, Berlin Germany (Popkomm) more tbc.... www.thethings.net
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    8/11/2005 8:52 AM
    I'd rather go see Bell X 1 than the things, i've seen the things a few times and everytime i get bored by the third song coz its the exact same as the others. No offence, its just nothing new, bell x 1 at least have variety in their tunes, ie. go listen to music in mouth.
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    8/11/2005 8:58 AM
    The Things have had 350 views on this topic, regardless of what you think of them, that's some good publicity. I happen to think they are a decent rock n roll band. The singer has the stones circa 72 look with the eye shadow etc... their whole "look" works because it adds to the atmosphere their music creates. Isn't that the idea? Especially when doing a live show? Frankly I'm glad they are nothing like zzzzzzzzzbellzzzzz x1.
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    8/11/2005 9:03 AM
    Agreed - methinks roonus is using this post to the maximum potential - and rightly so. I'm glad to see that their doing their own thing and I look forward to seeing them at the HWCH fest. Oh and personally I'd prefer to remove my own intestines with a rusty blade than endure Noonan and co. BTW (off topic) - Roadhousemag... are u Daraghs mate I met at Beat Connection? I remember u saying you had stated up an e-mag.
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    8/11/2005 9:06 AM
    No its not the idea, in my opinion music should be brought forward, not back, copying someone else's "look" is pathetic, as is blatantly copying their music, where's the originality? I'd rather go see a covers band than go see The Thinkzzzzzzz
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    8/11/2005 9:17 AM
    Now there is a decent Sat night out ... Polar & Wallmark in Whelans on the 20th, then skip up the road to Crawdaddy for The Things late night. Nice n Sweaty for the bouncers to look down his nose at you, as there is SFA he can do to stop you going into his TrendyBar !
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    8/11/2005 9:22 AM
    Name one band making truly (and I mean truly, as in brand new, never heard before) music? There is no 'original' music left to make. People can only combine elements of something that has already been done and try to put a new slant on it. Ideally this should result in something interesting, exciting and inspiring. Personally, I don't find the likes of BellX 1 in anyway exciting - but that's personal taste. I don't need to slate them, I just won't be buying their records or attending their gigs. I'd prefer to go to a gig where the band ethos is blood, sweat and tears, where they fully appreicate that you are there and want to take you on a journey (even if it's a scary one at times lol!!) drag you into their madness leaving you with your ears ringing, grinning like the proverbial cat - which I have done everytime I've seen them play.
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    8/11/2005 9:32 AM
    benni - nah thats something else, not sure if he still has the e-mag going, the things are definitely worth seeing live, even just to make up your mind. good tight rythm section, and always an opportunity to wiggle your leg, which is a good thing. oh dromed, i think the beta band we're pretty original, i hadn't heard anything quite like them before anyways.
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    8/11/2005 9:34 AM
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    I'd prefer to go to a gig where the band ethos is blood, sweat and tears, where they fully appreicate that you are there and want to take you on a journey (even if it's a scary one at times lol!!) drag you into their madness leaving you with your ears ringing, grinning like the proverbial cat
    & what music does that ? Soul. Soul ? Yeah, Soul. We're gonna be playing Dublin Soul.
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    8/11/2005 9:37 AM
    Probably the only really original artist I've heard in recent times (taking in the last 10 years etc) is Bjork... I dont think there is anything wrong with being directly influenced by other bands its always gonna happen - as long as its brought somewhere else and expanded as opposed to just being blatantly ripped off.
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    8/11/2005 10:09 AM
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    Name one band making truly (and I mean truly, as in brand new, never heard before) music? There is no 'original' music left to make.
    Max Tundra, Menomena and Solex are pretty unique, but you're right, even seemingly "out there" music draws its influence from somwhere, no-one starts from ground zero (although some have tried by attempting to rewrite the mathematical and tonal basis of western music theory from scratch). What is important is that you move things forward in some small way, either by building innovation on top of innovation (e.g. New Order taking Kraftwerks influence) or taking something well established and refining it by just doing it very, very well. The jury is still out on The Things in both regards I think, but they can't be accused of not trying.
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    8/11/2005 10:29 AM
    "There is no 'original' music left to make." cmon mate, thats a bit short sighted to be honest. I hope for everyones sake that not all true musicians and song writers think this way. Compare a piece of classical music and say "god save the queen" or "Blue Monday" or whatever thats relevant now. Im glad people didnt have your view back in the day or nothing would have changed, there is always going to be something new and far away
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    8/11/2005 10:44 AM
    Blue Monday and God save the queen are actually fairly straightforward pieces of music, its just been a slow evolution to get to that point. I think the point about "no original music" is more a recognition of the idea that people rarely pull ideas out of thin air, it all comes from somwhere, in fact in that sense you could say that there has NEVER been truly original music since people first started banging on rocks or whatever, its just more obvious to us now with the abundance of recorded material we now have access too. For example "God save the Queen" can trace its roots back to 60s garage via New York Dolls, Blue Mondays owes a debt to Krafterk and the newly emerging post-disco dance music of the time, even many classical pieces are based on reworked folk music.
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    8/11/2005 11:06 AM
    Yeah i know music has evolved slowly. My point is though it was still a pretty silly comment to make. I know there wasnt a sudden jump from Mozart to New Order im sure the cool dudes of back in the day could never of perceived music like ours nowadays while they were knocking back the cheap wine and getting jiggy with the Strings section. What im saying is Music in 100 years will hopefully seem like just another huge leap forward in comparison but not with closed minds and not with comments like "there is no original music left to make" WHo knows what some crazy Gril is doing under the Dead sea in a cave with a few dried fish
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    8/11/2005 12:49 PM
    WhoMe cool your jets. The point wasn't there is nothing original left to make therefore music is dead. Binokular gets the point I was making in that there is no such thing as an original 'sound' anymore, everything stems from something so it's not 'original'. However, the crux of my point was that was is interesting, is how people interpret sounds that have already been made and give them a newer sound, a modernising shakeup, a refreshment, whatever. Most music fans listen to a broad range of genres, and those who go on to make their own can come up with really interesting music, based (whether consciously or not) on their own musical 'experiences'. Which brings me back to my original point - in response to the Things getting slagged for making music that sounds like X, Y or Z. You can't write off a band cos they sound like someone else, everyone sounds like someone/something in some manner. Maybe that's a new game we can invent. Name a band that you think are 100% uninfluenced by any other music/artists and we can see if we can disprove the theory! As for making music with dead fish......Yoko Ono did that first lol!!
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    8/11/2005 12:55 PM
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    I'd prefer to go to a gig where the band ethos is blood, sweat and tears, where they fully appreicate that you are there and want to take you on a journey (even if it's a scary one at times lol!!) drag you into their madness leaving you with your ears ringing, grinning like the proverbial cat
    & what music does that ? Soul. Soul ? Yeah, Soul. We're gonna be playing Dublin Soul.
    Mully...don't know what your talking about there...enlighten us! Daragh...Beta Band (imo) = Postal Service x Byrds x Serge Gainsbourg (Melody Nelson) x Sea and Cake etc. etc. See, it's all about the formulas, ha ha ha!!
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    8/11/2005 3:12 PM
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    I'd prefer to go to a gig where the band ethos is blood, sweat and tears, where they fully appreicate that you are there and want to take you on a journey (even if it's a scary one at times lol!!) drag you into their madness leaving you with your ears ringing, grinning like the proverbial cat
    & what music does that ? Soul. Soul ? Yeah, Soul. We're gonna be playing Dublin Soul.
    Mully...don't know what your talking about there...enlighten us!
    Sorray ! Its from The Commitments, you just reminded me of Jimmy Rabbitte ... the rhythm of soul is the rhythm of riding. Music should be about where your from, it should speak the language of the streets, sex in factory. Sure theres lots of music you can get off on, But Soul is more than it Cos cos cos its honest, thats it, Its honest. It grabs you by the balls & lifts you above all the s**te
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    8/11/2005 3:33 PM
    quality movie. dude has a class voice as well.
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    8/11/2005 3:44 PM
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    Its from The Commitments, you just reminded me of Jimmy Rabbitte ... the rhythm of soul is the rhythm of riding. Music should be about where your from, it should speak the language of the streets, sex in factory. Sure theres lots of music you can get off on, But Soul is more than it Cos cos cos its honest, thats it, Its honest. It grabs you by the balls & lifts you above all the s**te
    Man did you google that script?? cause if thats from memory you're a bit of a legend!
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    8/11/2005 3:56 PM
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    Its from The Commitments, you just reminded me of Jimmy Rabbitte ... the rhythm of soul is the rhythm of riding. Music should be about where your from, it should speak the language of the streets, sex in factory. Sure theres lots of music you can get off on, But Soul is more than it Cos cos cos its honest, thats it, Its honest. It grabs you by the balls & lifts you above all the s**te
    Man did you google that script?? cause if thats from memory you're a bit of a legend!
    Google Schmoogle. I'm just seen it a silly amount of times. I dont think its 100% right ... about 98% though, not including the dialogue interupting it.
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    8/15/2005 3:56 PM
    just to go back to the things... i like em but like eighties matchbox theyre doing well at the whole lets rip off the cramps thing, works well for eighties matchbow though. www.myspace.com/thethings has more of their tracks on it for whoever was complaining about songs etc


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