Gar Veteran Member Posts:1676  
| 1/24/2005 10:56 AM |
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Foo Fighters, Prodigy and Ian Brown are all confirmed. And apparently The Killers have just signed up.
What other acts would people like to see this year?
Here's a few to get the thread spinning:
Kings Of Convenience
Black Keys
Tom Baxter
Bloc Party
The Subways
The Waifs
And You WIll Know Us By The Trail Of Our Dead
The Czars
Ben Harper
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
Interpol
Grateful Dead
Modest Mouse
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| 1/24/2005 1:16 PM |
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kings of leon
blur
belle & sebastian
the chalets
the finn brothers
tom mcrae
the tears (the new brett anderson/ bernard butler group)
ben kweller
beastie boys
ryan adams (as if)
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mutch Basic Member Posts:392
| 1/24/2005 1:37 PM |
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velvet revolver, the datsuns, stoat, mad capsul markets, any band mike patton is involved in, specifically tomahawk, the roots, gwen steffani, incubus, and that below average metal band that did the versionof dancing queen on "you're a big eejit for getting involved" cos i reckon live show would be funny.
Super Furry Animals would be great too.
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The_Thin_ManBasic Member Posts:137
| 1/25/2005 10:52 AM |
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Foo Fighters, the Prodigy and Brown?..it all seems so 1997. Let's throw on Chumbawumba and Kula Shaker and have done with it!
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Rev JulesVeteran Member Posts:1041
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bonzoBasic Member Posts:364
| 1/25/2005 11:16 AM |
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AC/DC - are they not doing Slane? Expect Velvet Revolver in support for that one. Revive metal!
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ArchieBasic Member Posts:458
| 1/25/2005 11:21 AM |
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Woohoo, previous op-ed anyone? heeheehee
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klootfan Advanced Member Posts:851
| 1/25/2005 11:38 AM |
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Let me see...Hmmm.
For an Acoustic/ Light Rock tent
Ben Kweller,
Pete Yorn,
Jesse Malin
Damien Jurado,
The American Analog Set
St Thomas
Sun Kil Moon
Grant Lee Philips
For the heavier tent:
Nada Surf
Seafood
The Walkmen
Interpol
Radio 4
to name a few
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mutchBasic Member Posts:392
| 1/25/2005 11:46 AM |
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i remember nada surf, just that popular song. funny
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
| 1/25/2005 12:32 PM |
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Ah, the album Nada Surf released in late 2003/2003 was nothing short of fantastic. I seriously recommed you pick it up. its called "let go". Seriously, its class
They played whelans in 2002 or was it 2003, anyway it was definitely one of the best if not THE best gig i was ever at in whelans or any other venue as a matter of fact. They were f**kin amazing.
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Ciarán Ryan New Member Posts:47
| 1/25/2005 12:40 PM |
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Who would you have back from last year?
For me, buck 65 was the highlight...
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GarVeteran Member Posts:1676
| 1/25/2005 12:44 PM |
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The Zutons, Republic Of Loose and Michael Franti. All were amazing. And Kings Of Leon because they weren't superb last year but I reckon with the new album out now they would be on top form. Although, one of the best things about festivals is that you discover great acts that you might never have heard of.
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ishrinkBasic Member Posts:195
| 1/25/2005 2:21 PM |
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Originally posted by klootfan
They played whelans in 2002 or was it 2003, anyway it was definitely one of the best if not THE best gig i was ever at in whelans or any other venue as a matter of fact. They were f**kin amazing.
Saw Nada Surf play Friday morning at Glasto2003.
We stayed for 10 minutes, then went back to bed.
Couldn't believe how boring MOR they'd become.
*YAWN*
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 1/25/2005 3:01 PM |
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For me, buck 65 was the highlight...
I would have loved to seen Buck 65 but some bright spark decided to put him on at the same time as the Rapture. One my biggest grievances with Oxegen/Witnness is there lack of hip-hop acts. I can't understand this, especially when you consider how well received both the Wu Tang Clan were last year and the Roots the year before. In terms of hip hop acts I'd most like to see this summer I'd have to go for Gang Starr, Edan, J-Live, Biz Markie, Del The Funky Homosapien, J-Zone, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, De La Soul, The Beatnuts, Kool Keith, Public Enemy, Nas, Blackalicious, RJD2, MF Doom, Common, Roots Manuva, Pharoahe Monch, Outkast, Jurassic 5, KRS-One, The Beastie Boys, Atmosphere, Sage Francis or Breakestra. Although I'd welcome back The Roots, Buck 65 or any other member of the Wu-Tang Clan. Alternatively they should a stick a really good turntablist or Breaks DJ (Z-Trip, Shadow, Cut Chemist, Beat Junkies, A-Track, Q-Bert etc) in the dance tent. Or they should just do what Glastonbury did and book the Godfather. |
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
| 1/25/2005 3:32 PM |
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yep, a friday morning and you gave them all of 10 mins...sure isnt that loads of time
must be crap so...
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ishrinkBasic Member Posts:195
| 1/25/2005 5:04 PM |
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it felt like days.
could hear it from the tent anyway - the didn't play one song off high/low.
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mutchBasic Member Posts:392
| 1/25/2005 5:19 PM |
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... One my biggest grievances with Oxegen/Witnness is there lack of hip-hop acts...
not being smart or anything but i think its mainly perceived crowd control issues that prevent rap artists getting in. look at the number of arrests at any homelands gathering versus that of arrests at, say metallica or ozzfest.
unfortunatly hip hop acts attract alot of the same crowd that go to hmoelands.
anyone who saw the streets a few years ago at witness must surely understand why hip hop acts arent popular with organisers.
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
| 1/25/2005 5:31 PM |
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Originally posted by mutch
... One my biggest grievances with Oxegen/Witnness is there lack of hip-hop acts...
not being smart or anything but i think its mainly perceived crowd control issues that prevent rap artists getting in. look at the number of arrests at any homelands gathering versus that of arrests at, say metallica or ozzfest.
unfortunatly hip hop acts attract alot of the same crowd that go to hmoelands.
anyone who saw the streets a few years ago at witness must surely understand why hip hop acts arent popular with organisers.
a few points after the post above which seems to indicate the hiphop gigs will bring more firepower and aggro to an openair venue than u get at a celtic-rangers derby. also there seems to be an indication that hip-hop crowds are not very nice which is pretty stupid (speaking as a 30something law-abiding hiphop fan)
I dont get the Homelands point at all. Homelands was a trance/house/techno festival with absolutely no hip-hop acts. Creamfields had 1 hip-hop act (outkast, 2001) that i can think of. There was zilch crowd trouble at either. loads of drug arrests but no crowd trouble. there were hiphop acts at that electric picnic thing last summer and again no trouble.
one of the biggest openair shows in ireland in 2004 was eminem - again little trouble bar the traffic chaos afterwards. similarly, no trouble at arena shows from 50 cents and kayne west. hip-hop acts played at 2 or 3 different feiles back in the 1990s and again, the revolution did not happen
most hip-hop shows in ireland are small-scale, independent gigs which have more trouble getting people in than dealing with troublesome elements in the audience.
the reason why irish hip-hop gigs seems to be associated with trouble stems back to a fugees show in 1995 or 1996. there was a load of moshing and hassle when one of the band leapt into the audience at the point. this happened the same day that an inquest was held into the death of an audience member at a smashing pumpkins show and there was a lot of media focus on the fugees show. as a result, MCD unofficially decided not to promote any more hip-hop shows, a stance which continued until they saw that they could actually make money from hip-hop and so they got back in the game, |
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GarVeteran Member Posts:1676
| 1/25/2005 5:42 PM |
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Is there a big Irish hip-hop scene?
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
| 1/25/2005 9:02 PM |
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Originally posted by Ciarán Ryan
Who would you have back from last year?
For me, buck 65 was the highlight...
Buck was great but I saw him 3 times last year and Oxegen was the poorest due to him having such a short set. |
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
| 1/25/2005 9:04 PM |
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Originally posted by ishrink
Saw Nada Surf play Friday morning at Glasto2003.
We stayed for 10 minutes, then went back to bed.
Couldn't believe how boring MOR they'd become.
*YAWN*
I saw them there, you're right absolute rubbish and I was really looking forward to seeing them. The rain didn't help. |
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Ciarán RyanNew Member Posts:47
| 1/26/2005 9:09 AM |
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While i can't see much hip-hop been added, have to agree I'd love to see Atmosphere, Sage Francis, MF Doom/Viktor Vaughn, J5, Blackalicious, Shadow, EL-P, and many more.
With regards the hip-hop/crowd control issue mentioned above, I think thats a stereotype fuelled by people who listen to tim westwood etc. In fairness, have you not seen the dance tent at the festival, you could get your head boxed off or else you are everyone's best friend!
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EricBasic Member Posts:179
| 1/26/2005 9:40 AM |
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Originally posted by klootfan
Let me see...Hmmm.
For an Acoustic/ Light Rock tent
Ben Kweller,
Pete Yorn,
Jesse Malin
Damien Jurado,
The American Analog Set
St Thomas
Sun Kil Moon
Grant Lee Philips
For the heavier tent:
Nada Surf
Seafood
The Walkmen
Interpol
Radio 4
to name a few
Hey Klootfan, Mark Kozelek (Sun Kil moon lead man) is playing an accoustic gig in Whelans on the 5th March. He does really nice accoustic versions of the songs from Sun Kil moon and Red House Painters. Should be a great gig  |
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
| 1/26/2005 9:45 AM |
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Cheers Eric. I didnt know that. Ill defo try check it out if im around.
Sound
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kierryBasic Member Posts:244
| 1/26/2005 1:01 PM |
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personally i don't like seeing acoustic acts at a festival with spanners who wouldn't have a clue who they are wandering in and out of the tent the whole time, and just generally annoying me.
interpol, muse, bloc party, the walkmen, these kinda bands would interest me.
i'll go anyway, i like the two day thing.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 1/26/2005 1:55 PM |
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One of the most disturbing things I've ever seen at Witness/Oxegen occurred last year on the Sunday afternoon in the dance tent. There was one guy dancing on his own pilled out of his mind. His eyed were closed, his face was contorted and he was eating his own jaw at 90 miles an hour but there was nobody in a ten feet radius of him so he wasn't doing any harm to anyone except himself. One of the local security guys saw him and instead of escorting him to the first aid tent, handing him over to the Gardai or just leaving him be, he decided to take his own course of action. It looked like he was just going to walk past him but at the last minute he stepped in and dropped the shoulder so hard he nearly knocked the poor guy over. He then spun around waiting for a reaction so that he could knock seven shades of sh*t out of him but the pillhead was so out of he it he hadn't even noticed that the bouncer was trying to start on him. I know that people have been giving out about security at these kind of events of years but I've never seen such a collection of scumbags quite as unprofessional as the ones MCD employed last year. The Northern security firm who were looking after admission into the campsite of Friday night were grand but the local goons were something else. If they weren’t trying to start fights they were trying to make a quick buck. My girlfriend asked one of them for directions to the onsite ticket master office and he immediately responded by offering to sell her a wrist band for €50. I met at least half a dozen people over the weekend that’d gotten in by bribing local security.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 1/26/2005 2:36 PM |
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Originally posted by Gar
Is there a big Irish hip-hop scene?
No it’s quite small. Back in the 90s you had Scary Eire who had a single called Dole Q, it’s one of my favourite Irish records ever. Their DK Mek started off scratching on Zig & Zag’s Christmas No. 1 single but he had serious skills. He was banned from competing in the DMC’s though when he set a turntable on fire and pulled out a tricolour at the finals over in England. Last I heard he was producing tracks on the new Ian Brown album and he plays regularly enough around the country. Their main MC Ri Ra is still making hip hop and doing gigs. Now days the biggest Irish act is Messiah J & the Expert. They used to be called Creative Control but they changed their name when their DJ Mayhem left. He’s been replaced with DJ Flip who became the first Irish man to win an ITF title in 2003. The best turntablist in Ireland though is Tu-Ki who’s won both the Irish ITF’s and DMC’s for the last three years running. Then you have veterans like the DJs Splice and OB who run the All City shop in Temple Bar. They’ve set up their own label as well and they’ve put out records for Ri Ra, Hazo & Captain Moonlight and Relevance. Their last single was a collaboration between DJ Flip and Marc Stretch of Foreign Legion. Apparently the next single is going to be a collaboration between DJ Flip and Slug out of Atmosphere. If that’s the case the label should get some serious exposure. There are some other act as well such as Exile Eye and the Goodmen (featuring DJ Lee from 2 Phat!) but I haven’t heard their stuff so I can’t comment. The biggest hip hop night in the country is probably Choice Cuts in Ri-Ra’s. It’s promoted by Scope and he plays there along with OB, Splice, Tu-Ki, Mayhem etc. They get in some quality guests as well. In Galway you’ve got root down in The Vic with Deviant, Doobius and MC Seb. It’s promoted by GC underground and they do some events in Cork as well. I’m not sure the story is with the Breaking or Graffiti scene is this country although there’s an amazing Graf artist in Cork called Mr Who. |
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MullyAdvanced Member Posts:849
| 1/26/2005 2:39 PM |
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Originally posted by stroller
[quote}If they weren’t trying to start fights they were trying to make a quick buck. My girlfriend asked one of them for directions to the onsite ticket master office and he immediately responded by offering to sell her a wrist band for €50. I met at least half a dozen people over the weekend that’d gotten in by bribing local security.
Last year was over full, the lads that take you ticket off you, & give you your wristband, were not tearing the stubs off. They were taking the whole ticket, intact .... Ready for selling outside, again & again & again.
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RubyBasic Member Posts:107
| 1/26/2005 3:45 PM |
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Dont get me started on the security at poxegen last year. What a shower of fookers. I'm sorry but I've never experienced anything like them at any festival or previous Witnness. Ruined the whole atmosphere for me.
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
| 1/27/2005 9:18 AM |
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Originally posted by stroller
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Originally posted by Gar
Is there a big Irish hip-hop scene?
No it’s quite small. Back in the 90s you had Scary Eire who had a single called Dole Q, it’s one of my favourite Irish records ever. Their DK Mek started off scratching on Zig & Zag’s Christmas No. 1 single but he had serious skills. He was banned from competing in the DMC’s though when he set a turntable on fire and pulled out a tricolour at the finals over in England. Last I heard he was producing tracks on the new Ian Brown album and he plays regularly enough around the country. Their main MC Ri Ra is still making hip hop and doing gigs. Now days the biggest Irish act is Messiah J & the Expert. They used to be called Creative Control but they changed their name when their DJ Mayhem left. He’s been replaced with DJ Flip who became the first Irish man to win an ITF title in 2003. The best turntablist in Ireland though is Tu-Ki who’s won both the Irish ITF’s and DMC’s for the last three years running. Then you have veterans like the DJs Splice and OB who run the All City shop in Temple Bar. They’ve set up their own label as well and they’ve put out records for Ri Ra, Hazo & Captain Moonlight and Relevance. Their last single was a collaboration between DJ Flip and Marc Stretch of Foreign Legion. Apparently the next single is going to be a collaboration between DJ Flip and Slug out of Atmosphere. If that’s the case the label should get some serious exposure. There are some other act as well such as Exile Eye and the Goodmen (featuring DJ Lee from 2 Phat!) but I haven’t heard their stuff so I can’t comment. The biggest hip hop night in the country is probably Choice Cuts in Ri-Ra’s. It’s promoted by Scope and he plays there along with OB, Splice, Tu-Ki, Mayhem etc. They get in some quality guests as well. In Galway you’ve got root down in The Vic with Deviant, Doobius and MC Seb. It’s promoted by GC underground and they do some events in Cork as well. I’m not sure the story is with the Breaking or Graffiti scene is this country although there’s an amazing Graf artist in Cork called Mr Who.
Very good summing up so theres little to add.
Exile Eye released a brilliant debut album in 2002 but havent heard anything new since.
The most high profile hiphop act is a bloke called Collie who's signed to Universal thru a label that 2FM DJ Wes Darcy has - he's not much cop though.
The best new hiphop crew i've seen as the Geneseas, Dublin-based lot from South Africa, Senegal, Zambia etc.
The graf scene is small but enthusiastic - they gather for an annual fest in Drogheda every Aug. More info on them from All City Records in Temple Bar.
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