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watchmanofephraim
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11/12/2003 3:10 AM
    you know you really have some cheek to call me a troll, there has to be some law on the internet about calling people names as you have, just because you do not agree with what they say. ignore this looser! you know you really do trap your selfes with your own words, i did not put this out to up set people as you have wrongly put, this is a topic which is way over your head and the reason you dont understand it is due to the fact that you know nothing about scripture. So how can you come along and call me a what did you call me a troll, and then you proceeded to continue calling me a troll as if it where some kind of species and i was it. this disgusting little spec of humanity, this is what you have labeled me as, with your use of the word troll.it's this lack of respect for people, just because you have never met them of seen them before which ruins peoples moral, that when they say something reasonable, they are told it is not reasonable. well, you are not getting the last word on this and you know why becasue it is a direct insult, and you should not be allowed to freely call people what you like And this calnnishness thing you have going,with your statement "dont mind this looser, lad's" I dont go around deliberatley trying to up set people, and there are a lot more things on this internet that are a lot more up setting than a man speaking about GOD. if you sense anger from me then you only have your selves to blame, for the insults continue to abound. My topic was a good one and maybe this is the reason you are calling me names, my topic is designed to help these people within the witnesses of Israel, so that they can leave this oginisation without the heavy weights that the like's of this thing can leave. here's a story, a man who was just disfellowshiped from the jw's got into an argument in a pub, he was just about to be trottled, whne he said to the man doing the trottling. "sure go ahead, I'm dead already" by this he meant that because he had left the jw's he had left GOD , because they believe they are the true representitives of Jehova, when nothing could be further from the truth, they have been judged in the book of israel in these times by their own God, for falling in love with the works of their own hands, their books their temples] the problems they are having with the paodophille thing, they are all written down in the prophets. so i'll leave it there if you dont understand something, then at least admit it and say, look DAMIEN WE DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUARE TALKING ABOUT COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR TOPIC SOMEWHERE'S ELSE. AND I'LL SAY, OKAY, GLADLY, BUT DONT INSULT ME AND SHOW YOUR your compleate lack of respect for a new comer to your forum. "dont take any notice of this looser lads" thats clannishness and thugery. and no ones welcome to this forum unless we okay them. and before you say you would be welcome if you behaved your self, the truth is the first doc. i sent in was behaving my self. and if there is any respnse to this which i hope now at this stage there wont, but if there is then i wont be responding to them. Damien davis.
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    11/12/2003 8:42 AM
    Damien, Why do you automatically presume that everyone who uses these forums would have reason to know anything about scripture. Do you not feel that it's a rather bold assumption, or do you refuse point blank to accept the fact that there is more than one belief structure on the planet? Your dogged attempts to try and make everyone listen to you aren't doing you any favours. Fair enough you may feel that your topic is a good one but the problem lies in your approach and refusal to accept the points being made by others. As regards your "clannisness" point, as on all forums over a period of time regular visitors get to know more about each others thoughts and ideas which naturally results in a sense of community being developed. I wouldn't consider myself to be a member of this community as I don't regularly post here. I merely check in from time to time to read the latest discussions. I wouldn't expect to be automatically accepted as part of the group. This is the same with all social groups. For example, and this is only for explaination purposes, if your friends were like minded as you would and someone with opposing thoughts, ideas and beliefs sat down with to join your conversation can you honestly say that straight away he/she would automatically be accepted and hold an equal footing in the group? Countless studies say absolutely not. The crux of the problem here is that the majority of the vistors here really don't care too much about the "JW's" as you put it. They are seen as a nuisance who interrupt what you're watching on the telly and can't take no for an answer. Fair enough you may have uncovered some dark conspiracy but it's not really the kind of conspiracy that affects anyone who isn't Christian. That's my bit.
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    11/12/2003 9:56 AM
    in terms of sheer entertainment, this thread (although now split in two for some reason) has been first class, leaving "WifeSwap" and "Celebrity Dog School" languishing way behind. Damien, you sound like a bloke who has read a lot about this particular topic (although you cant believe everything you read - look at yer man David Icke or indeed the very people you are giving out yards about - all sorts of sh1te manages to get published everyday)... and you certainly have passion, for reasons you made quite clear in one of your later messages. The problem is the way you structured your first (ever?) message - with all kinds of scripture, hidden meanings and personal revelations. Now maybe you felt you needed to include such detail so that all the Jehovah Witnesses that frequent Cluas would read, consider and do whatever it is you want them to do... but what percentage of the readership of Cluas wear black suits and name tags - feck all i would imagine. Could you not have just said: Folks, Jehovah's Witnesses are full of sh1te and in my experience damaging to your health if you let them in to your life. Has anybody got a story to tell? I reckon a decent discussion would have followed about cults, organised religion etc. etc. My advice would be to find a site thats geared to this kinda chat, because so far you have only had your feelings hurt and thats unlikely to change no matter how long this thread goes on. You will probably want the last word...
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    11/12/2003 10:23 AM
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    Originally posted by watchmanofephraim
    so i'll leave it there if you dont understand something, then at least admit it and say, look DAMIEN WE DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUARE TALKING ABOUT COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR TOPIC SOMEWHERE'S ELSE.
    NO i WONT SAY THAT WHAT I WILL SAY IS DAMIEN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT BUT WE ARE NOT INTERESTED SO COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR TOPIC SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE YOU WILL GET THE RESPONSES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU AINT GONNA GET EM HERE
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    11/12/2003 12:25 PM
    A few points.... First up, we understand what it is you are trying to say; we simply have no interest what you are saying. Personally I am an atheist and have no interest in organised religion but have no problem with people who do (whatever gets you through!). So, telling me that the JWs are mocking God is like telling me that the Osmonds dissed the tooth fairy. I really don't care. A troll is a well understood internet term for someone who posts to forums purely to get a reaction. You really should not be offended. This is a music forum - your posts have all the hallmarks of someone simply trying to agitate, therefore the "trolling" reference. For the last time, you are a musician, why not tell use about your music???
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    11/12/2003 5:11 PM
    watchmanofaskmebollix give it a rest please
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    11/13/2003 3:34 AM
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    watchmanofaskmebolli give it a rest please
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    11/13/2003 3:35 AM
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    in terms of sheer entertainment, this thread (although now split in two for some reason) has been first class, leaving "WifeSwap" and "Celebrity Dog School" languishing way behind. Damien, you sound like a bloke who has read a lot about this particular topic (although you cant believe everything you read - look at yer man David Icke or indeed the very people you are giving out yards about - all sorts of sh1te manages to get published everyday)... and you certainly have passion, for reasons you made quite clear in one of your later messages. The problem is the way you structured your first (ever?) message - with all kinds of scripture, hidden meanings and personal revelations. Now maybe you felt you needed to include such detail so that all the Jehovah Witnesses that frequent Cluas would read, consider and do whatever it is you want them to do... but what percentage of the readership of Cluas wear black suits and name tags - feck all i would imagine. Could you not have just said: Folks, Jehovah's Witnesses are full of sh1te and in my experience damaging to your health if you let them in to your life. Has anybody got a story to tell? I reckon a decent discussion would have followed about cults, organised religion etc. etc. My advice would be to find a site thats geared to this kinda chat, because so far you have only had your feelings hurt and thats unlikely to change no matter how long this thread goes on. You will probably want the last word...
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    11/13/2003 3:36 AM
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    Damien, Why do you automatically presume that everyone who uses these forums would have reason to know anything about scripture. Do you not feel that it's a rather bold assumption, or do you refuse point blank to accept the fact that there is more than one belief structure on the planet? Your dogged attempts to try and make everyone listen to you aren't doing you any favours. Fair enough you may feel that your topic is a good one but the problem lies in your approach and refusal to accept the points being made by others. As regards your "clannisness" point, as on all forums over a period of time regular visitors get to know more about each others thoughts and ideas which naturally results in a sense of community being developed. I wouldn't consider myself to be a member of this community as I don't regularly post here. I merely check in from time to time to read the latest discussions. I wouldn't expect to be automatically accepted as part of the group. This is the same with all social groups. For example, and this is only for explaination purposes, if your friends were like minded as you would and someone with opposing thoughts, ideas and beliefs sat down with to join your conversation can you honestly say that straight away he/she would automatically be accepted and hold an equal footing in the group? Countless studies say absolutely not. The crux of the problem here is that the majority of the vistors here really don't care too much about the "JW's" as you put it. They are seen as a nuisance who interrupt what you're watching on the telly and can't take no for an answer. Fair enough you may have uncovered some dark conspiracy but it's not really the kind of conspiracy that affects anyone who isn't Christian. That's my bit.
    and what a bit it is too
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    11/13/2003 3:39 AM
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    Originally posted by Vent My Spleen
    A few points.... First up, we understand what it is you are trying to say; we simply have no interest what you are saying. Personally I am an atheist and have no interest in organised religion but have no problem with people who do (whatever gets you through!). So, telling me that the JWs are mocking God is like telling me that the Osmonds dissed the tooth fairy. I really don't care. A troll is a well understood internet term for someone who posts to forums purely to get a reaction. You really should not be offended. This is a music forum - your posts have all the hallmarks of someone simply trying to agitate, therefore the "trolling" reference. For the last time, you are a musician, why not tell use about your music???
    no
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    11/13/2003 3:40 AM
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    watchmanofaskmebollix give it a rest please
    you ae ugly to the bone, and there snot likely to be any change
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    11/13/2003 3:42 AM
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    Originally posted by watchmanofephraim
    so i'll leave it there if you dont understand something, then at least admit it and say, look DAMIEN WE DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUARE TALKING ABOUT COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR TOPIC SOMEWHERE'S ELSE.
    NO i WONT SAY THAT WHAT I WILL SAY IS DAMIEN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT BUT WE ARE NOT INTERESTED SO COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR TOPIC SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE YOU WILL GET THE RESPONSES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU AINT GONNA GET EM HERE [/quoteno you dont understand, so long================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================
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    11/13/2003 11:09 AM
    Sick your f**kin religion, get a bit of BLack Sabbath into ye, that willl cleanse your soul. This is about music not bulls**t
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    11/13/2003 11:37 AM
    Aah, here we go again. Cut, paste, quote, bitch. Cut, paste, quote, bitch. Cut, paste, quote, bitch. STOP RESPONDING TO THIS IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S ALL HE WANTS YOU TO DO!! STOP FEEDING HIS BULLs**t!! Moderaters, please, I'm begging you, delete this thread and any more like it. They're worthless. Q2
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    11/13/2003 1:17 PM
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