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02 Nov 2006 10:12 PM
i'm sensing a collective *cringe* right about now...
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03 Nov 2006 02:04 AM
Amen to that Raoul.
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03 Nov 2006 10:14 AM
for whats its worth, i whole heartedly 2nd what Madra is trying to say. Makes for much better reading then 'they are sh!te', music snobbery / begrudgery is rife in this forum grrrrr.... PQ
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03 Nov 2006 11:20 AM
thank you dude, its all im trying to say.
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03 Nov 2006 11:53 AM
It aint worth a lot PQ...
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03 Nov 2006 12:10 PM
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I could name twenty bands that are better than the ones that are being thrown in our faces all the time.
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Here are twenty bands that i believe are better than the s**te being thrown in our faces by s**te major labels who know nothing about music...: 1.Mighty Stef 2.The Guggenheim Grotto 3.The Chapters 4.Jaded Sun 5.Oppenheimer 6.Superjimenez 7.Les Bien 8.The Rags 9.Sickboy 10.My Cordoruy 11.Angel Pier 12.Echogram 13.Tadgh Cooke 14.MJEX 15.Waiting Room 16.Vesta Varro 17.Delorentos 18.The Gorgeous Colours 19.Fast Emperors 20.Madra's Band Any comments....?
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03 Nov 2006 12:55 PM
So if one or more of those listed bands get signed by the major labels that know nothing about music does that mean they get relegated to the 's**te' list too?
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03 Nov 2006 01:04 PM
I would like to think that they wouldn't, no, but don't forget that major labels take a lot of the artists creative control away from them in which case it could be quite possible that their style/sound/direction may change. They make bands demo material again and again and again until they think it's ready to be released. Bands just go with it unless they have the balls to stand up for themselves...
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03 Nov 2006 01:08 PM
PS, by "s**te major labels who know nothing about music", i'm referring to yer univerals and atlantics who seem to have gone on a signing spree in the last year. Bastards. Anyone really think that they're going to push 5/6 new bands? Not likely...they'll give them all one album/couple of singles and push the one band that does the best for them financially...
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04 Nov 2006 12:56 AM
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I blame Hotpress for championing s**t bands ie. Blizzards, Director, Marshals, Humanzi. They're all Irelands "Great White Hopes", and have been for too long now. Record companies pay Hotpress for advertising. Hotpress, in turn, rave about the companies bands. Before we know it everybody is talking about these s**t bands. No hope for the good bands unless they're signed. Spondulies make the music world go around! Such is life... The only true section in Hotpress is First Cuts by Jackie Hayden. The rest is articles that have been paid for indirectly
Don't know about that They give out hard reviews as well as supportive ones, depends on who you get on your review and what they like. They have supported all of the above far before signing and bear in mind the bands don't have cash to advertise until they release their albums. There are as many bad or mediocre reviews as good ones for said record companies acts every edition. So I don't agree. What they do tend to do is if they see a band working hard and they like the music they will get in behind that act and be supportive. HP's readership is in Ireland and the music community is a big part of that readership why wouldn't they write about local success surely it's more relavent than covering New Rave in London. I pick it up to find new bands as do others. Nothin wrong with an irish music mag reporting on what's happening in Ireland? It's like anything else in the industry and any other industry, if you push you might get a mention, if you keep improving people talk, if you advance you are news! We don't have many media outlets who will support local acts. Here's to hoping the new nme section bridges the radar gap for the UK too. R R
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04 Nov 2006 12:59 AM
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I could name twenty bands that are better than the ones that are being thrown in our faces all the time.
Go on so.....
Here are twenty bands that i believe are better than the s**te being thrown in our faces by s**te major labels who know nothing about music...: 1.Mighty Stef 2.The Guggenheim Grotto 3.The Chapters 4.Jaded Sun 5.Oppenheimer 6.Superjimenez 7.Les Bien 8.The Rags 9.Sickboy 10.My Cordoruy 11.Angel Pier 12.Echogram 13.Tadgh Cooke 14.MJEX 15.Waiting Room 16.Vesta Varro 17.Delorentos 18.The Gorgeous Colours 19.Fast Emperors 20.Madra's Band Any comments....?
Would be interesting to find out how many of the above would turn down a deal! So lets say they sign, Would that then make them the s**t that's pushed in your face
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04 Nov 2006 03:26 AM
"The only true section in Hotpress is First Cuts by Jackie Hayden." ...oh good god, you gotta be taking the piss, the auld dude aint got a breeze about contemporary alternative music, he likes bands who write 3 minute pop sings that sound like picture house. cant believe they still have him writing reviews
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04 Nov 2006 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Pandora
I could name twenty bands that are better than the ones that are being thrown in our faces all the time.
Go on so.....
Here are twenty bands that i believe are better than the s**te being thrown in our faces by s**te major labels who know nothing about music...: 1.Mighty Stef 2.The Guggenheim Grotto 3.The Chapters 4.Jaded Sun 5.Oppenheimer 6.Superjimenez 7.Les Bien 8.The Rags 9.Sickboy 10.My Cordoruy 11.Angel Pier 12.Echogram 13.Tadgh Cooke 14.MJEX 15.Waiting Room 16.Vesta Varro 17.Delorentos 18.The Gorgeous Colours 19.Fast Emperors 20.Madra's Band Any comments....?
Would be interesting to find out how many of the above would turn down a deal! So lets say they sign, Would that then make them the s**t that's pushed in your face
Gugganheim Grotto have a big deal already.
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