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Damien Rice '9'
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dera
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9/21/2006 8:26 PM
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Originally posted by Gar A huge majority of American voters will opt for the candidate who appeals to them on those issues.
Sorry to derail the thread further, but, er, "huge majority"?
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9/21/2006 9:16 PM
Apologies for that, must have been all the talk George W. rubbing off on me.
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9/21/2006 10:50 PM
all my life, woo, watchin America http://scenestars.net/songs/rachel/04-razorlight-america.mp3
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9/22/2006 12:27 AM
jesus. this thread is unreasonable, nasty and very shortsighted. damien rice is a talented musician, who has done remarkably well. he took extra time over stuff cos he is a perfectionist, why release a s**t second album too soon? isn't it better to wait and release a good one? i'm surprised at some of the normally quite fair posters on here. i'm not a fan of his music, i don't particularly care for his songs, and i don't see myself going to a gig, but i will give it a chance. :(
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9/22/2006 12:35 AM
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Jmc105, where you getting this info that Bush fooled 62 million people into voting for him? Yes, Florida was rigged in his favour but he was still in the race right up to that last state. And when he went up against John Kerry in the most recent election, he won fair and square. It's not about him fooling the American citizens - they wanted to vote for him (those that did vote at least) in the two elections that he stood in. Back to this thread though......Is no-one here looking forward to Damien Rice's new album?
the bould revlon reckoned that damien rice has achieved his level of success in spite of a lack of talent, not because he is talented. and that reminded me of bush. i don't consider the man competent to manage a starbucks franchise, let alone the united states of america. i was in denver during the 2004 election and watched the presidential debates. the contrast between kerry, who was able to address the issues he was asked about with intelligence, and bush, who ignored the questions in favour of saying what suited him (a familiar enough tactic round here incidentally) and still failed to construct meaningful sentences, was shocking. regardless of what your political or moral beliefs may be, how any sane, thinking person could entrust the running of their country to george w. bush is beyond me. just over 62 million people voted for bush in total, and i reckon that if they believe he is the best man for the job that somewhere along the line somebody must have brainwashed them. i am looking forward to the new album, but having heard some of his new material i'm not expecting it to be as good as 'o'. in spite of my lack of a sense of humour, and thanks for clearing that up it's such a relief just to finally know, i'll see your ferrell and raise you a black bush. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DprRG8uitwA
Not so fast paleface, you brought bush into this in the first place. Lets get something straight W is not a stupid man, you may run a starbucks and be stupid, you may enjoy the music of damien rice and be stupid, you may even vote and be stupid, but you don't get to be The Chief by being thick, there are just too many smart people in the way. In fact he is a smarter man than both his father and Al Gore on these grounds alone. He learned from Clinton that playing the man of the people card is always a savvy move. Over here we look at Bush and think he is a hick but thats because of our own standpoint, experience and prejudices, but across America he is viewed as a salt of the earth guy, he plays up his goofyness. He reminds me of Sam Goldwyn who cultivated Charles Chaplin's dinner table send ups of him and made it his public image. Sam was a frequent dinner guest of George Bernard Shaw in London and GBS, regarded as one of the rudest men in London, once reported that Sam had perfect english but enjoyed the anecdotes of his mangled phrases. Thats the closest GBS ever got to a compliment. Bush aint any different, he saw an image that played to a larger section of the voting public than his rivals and went for it, and he hoodwinked fundamentalist christians that he was one of them too, even though his standpoint on many things is no more radical than that of the Roman Catholic church. If George W Bush rang against Bil Clinton, who would win, I would think that would be a hard one to call.
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9/22/2006 3:17 AM
ah in fairness now, i mentioned bush in passing, i had no interest in getting into a debate about the man. fair enough, you think he's playing a role, and he does have certain amount of charm, which he uses to good effect. i think his lack of intelligence is painfully obvious, and that without a combination of his ex-president daddy, his brilliant campaign managers, a seriously dodgy election in 2000, the war in iraq, a poor 2004 campaign by the democrats and a willingness on the part of millions of americans to vote for along party lines, he wouldn't be president today. i wouldn't go so far as to call him stupid, but compared to someone like clinton, (wasn't he a rhode's scholar?), he ain't smart. came across an interesting report on the iq's of the last twelve american presidents recently, which places george w last with an iq of 91. clinton was top with 182. http://www.lovenstein.org/report/
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9/22/2006 9:03 AM
Soooooo anyway.......that new Damien Rice album, huh?
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9/22/2006 9:56 AM
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ah in fairness now, i mentioned bush in passing, i had no interest in getting into a debate about the man. fair enough, you think he's playing a role, and he does have certain amount of charm, which he uses to good effect. i think his lack of intelligence is painfully obvious, and that without a combination of his ex-president daddy, his brilliant campaign managers, a seriously dodgy election in 2000, the war in iraq, a poor 2004 campaign by the democrats and a willingness on the part of millions of americans to vote for along party lines, he wouldn't be president today. i wouldn't go so far as to call him stupid, but compared to someone like clinton, (wasn't he a rhode's scholar?), he ain't smart. came across an interesting report on the iq's of the last twelve american presidents recently, which places george w last with an iq of 91. clinton was top with 182. http://www.lovenstein.org/report/
I dont think that proves anything, c'mon now, quoting an anti-bush website which has no real evidence for their claims. As for the new album, well Gar, in the absence of any tracks to listen to, I'd say it proves that being able to count is not one of Ricecake's skills, there are 10 songs listed and the album is called '9'?
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9/22/2006 11:58 AM
gar - it's hard to talk for very long about an album that hasn't come out yet and no-one has heard anything from. rj - first read about that report in "de paper", then came across it online, had a closer look today and you'll be happy to hear that it's all a hoax. or rather, it started as an email joke which sounded real enough to fool some journalists, who published it, the silly things. http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/lovenstein.html maybe i'm misunderestimating the poor man, maybe there's really a keen intellect hiding in there somewhere, but i've watched him say and do so many things that remind me of homer simpson that i really don't think so. surely damien rice's counting skills, going by your logic anyway, were shown up years ago, when "o" turned out to have any tracks at all on it?
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9/22/2006 12:17 PM
I know, just trying to steer the thread back towards it's original purpose - because it was probably my fault that it went all political.
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9/22/2006 12:39 PM
Bush isn't stupid? Seriously? Have you listened to any of his speeches? The guy is hilarious, I love the man, but to say he isn't thick? You get to be President in the US through money, simple, absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. Look who is running California. 'President Bush: Peter. Are you going to ask that question with shades on? Peter Wallsten of the Los Angeles Times: I can take them off. Bush: I'm interested in the shade look, seriously. Wallsten: All right, I'll keep it, then. Bush: For the viewers, there's no sun. Wallsten: I guess it depends on your perspective. Bush: Touché'
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9/22/2006 1:16 PM
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gar - it's hard to talk for very long about an album that hasn't come out yet and no-one has heard anything from. rj - first read about that report in "de paper", then came across it online, had a closer look today and you'll be happy to hear that it's all a hoax. or rather, it started as an email joke which sounded real enough to fool some journalists, who published it, the silly things. http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/lovenstein.html maybe i'm misunderestimating the poor man, maybe there's really a keen intellect hiding in there somewhere, but i've watched him say and do so many things that remind me of homer simpson that i really don't think so. surely damien rice's counting skills, going by your logic anyway, were shown up years ago, when "o" turned out to have any tracks at all on it?
Classic, I knew it was dodgy if jmc105 was using it to back himself up. Now, is 'O' or '0', a numeral or a letter, i haven't explored ricecakes enough to know, but if it was indeed a numeral then the album should have been blank, which would have made it much better to listen to indeed
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9/22/2006 1:37 PM
What a load of rubbish! How can you guys slate an album based on the tracklisting. Seriously, you don't have to like the guy to be willing to at least listen to the record before having a go at it. For what it's worth Zane Lowe played the 9 Crimes single as his "hottest record in the world" on Tuesday and it sounded pretty good to me. Like the first time I heard Cold Water on 'O', shivers down the spine stuff. Will it be as good as O? I don't know, but jaysus, I'll at least wait until I've heard the bloody thing before making my mind up.
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9/22/2006 1:48 PM
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where will this thread go next?! f**kin hell, my head is melted
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9/22/2006 1:51 PM
I don't think anyones actually slated the new album yet, but c'mon, those titles have great comedy value. :D
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9/22/2006 1:59 PM
To be fair like, the titles are total tw*t
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9/22/2006 2:23 PM
How important is a song title to the quality of the song? I must have missed that decision, I really should pay more attention in meetings.
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9/22/2006 3:10 PM
s**t thread. what's the point in discussing an album no-ones heard? Gar just stuck it up to show off that he's 'in the know' enough to get a press release emailed to him. big swinging mickey. and jules do you contribute anything to this site apart from frothing at the mouth about damien rice and that vanity piece moonlighting as an opinion column?
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9/22/2006 3:13 PM
Jaysus, a lot of spite in this thread, fantastic stuff. Can't wait for Jule's reply. I think Gar posted it on cluas because he's is one of Ireland's most succesful singer writers...Rice, not Gar, although Gar has a lovely voice. And cluas is an irish site thus worth discussing as the previous four pages attest to.
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9/22/2006 3:18 PM
I posted the thread because there was thread up here recently asking about when Rice's new album was out - so I thought I would reveal the infomation because as you rightly said I got a press release. Nothing about showing off.
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