dummyrun New Member Posts:37  
| 2/3/2006 1:38 PM |
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I would like to add though, that I havnt heard Humanzi and thus I cannot speak ill of em...
Didnt like Listo though
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mannamanNew Member Posts:48
| 2/3/2006 3:18 PM |
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Originally posted by sonsofnow
ireland is a nation of bregrudgers we hate to see other people doing well, its as simple as that!! im delighted a band like humanzi has made it might attract more attention on the music scene in ireland and allow more bands to come through! thats my 2 cents
I think we want to see some bands come through man - but we need to see originality that is the biggie! and on evidence so far Humanzi are lacking! |
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Dromed Advanced Member Posts:900
| 2/3/2006 3:29 PM |
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THere is no such thing as originality anymore....only reinterpretation.
Name one truly 'original', contemporary Irish band?
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benniAdvanced Member Posts:947
| 2/3/2006 3:34 PM |
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In fairness not every single band out there needs to be
the innovators of some great new sound or be the future of music.
With the exception of a few like Beck or Bjork most
*is* just reinterpretation as Dromed said.
Humanzi are balls to the wall rock n roll with plently
of catchy riffs and dark synthy edges.
They do what they do well.
Seriously - see them live and then you'll see.
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mannamanNew Member Posts:48
| 2/3/2006 4:20 PM |
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Originally posted by benni
Seriously - see them live and then you'll see.
Saw them live on Other Voices and the songs simply didnt stand up. Even if you aint original at least the strongs have to be as strong as hell and for me they simply arent there.
I fear for a band like Humanzi as I think they will get lost in the hype and at best they will turn into a THrills or a Strokes where they will have huge instant success but end up bereft of ideas about how to dream it all up again - and so therefore end up plodding along in mediocrity. 
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DromedAdvanced Member Posts:900
| 2/3/2006 4:43 PM |
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Eh, I don't think you can put the Thrills and The Strokes in the same category sorry.
And as for the Strokes..well 3 albums in and they seem to be doing ok..in fact, I'd be pretty sure any band that made it to their level would be pretty satisfied. But sure when Humanzi support them in the Point Depot at the end of the month they can ask them about that themselves :)
I'm really surprised by the level of venom in some of the previous posts, it's a bit pathetic that people have to resort to really childish, below-the-belt comments to back up their arguments on whether a band is decent or not. If you don't like the music, that's fair enough...but slagging off someone for being small (??!!)
Such ridiculous comments make the entire argument completely invalid.
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wyldstallynNew Member Posts:15
| 2/3/2006 4:46 PM |
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I know I'm not on here at all(in fact my only contribution so far on this board was for that Virgin digital name the bands thing) but for the record I thought Humanzi were great.
They're a band who I knew straightaway that I could relate to. I like balls to the wall rock n roll as Benni puts it.....and rock n roll is a genre which due to its very nature is driven by reinterpretion.
And I don't know where yer man gets off calling them a joke band.You know full well they're not a joke band. You may hate their music, their style etc but clearly others do like their music and style. Calling them a joke is a cheap way of signalling your dislike for them.
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mannamanNew Member Posts:48
| 2/3/2006 4:48 PM |
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Originally posted by Dromed
Eh, I don't think you can put the Thrills and The Strokes in the same category sorry.
And as for the Strokes..well 3 albums in and they seem to be doing ok..in fact, I'd be pretty sure any band that made it to their level would be pretty satisfied. But sure when Humanzi support them in the Point Depot at the end of the month they can ask them about that themselves :)
I'm really surprised by the level of venom in some of the previous posts, it's a bit pathetic that people have to resort to really childish, below-the-belt comments to back up their arguments on whether a band is decent or not. If you don't like the music, that's fair enough...but slagging off someone for being small (??!!)
Such ridiculous comments make the entire argument completely invalid.
The Strokes thing is down to your own interpretation mate!
Have either two albums since been up to the debut? dont think so and yes I have listened! Its all about what you interpret as success really!! if applying to the lowest common denominator is your thing then I wish you and your band all the best! |
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wyldstallynNew Member Posts:15
| 2/3/2006 4:59 PM |
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Originally posted by mannaman
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Originally posted by Dromed
Eh, I don't think you can put the Thrills and The Strokes in the same category sorry.
And as for the Strokes..well 3 albums in and they seem to be doing ok..in fact, I'd be pretty sure any band that made it to their level would be pretty satisfied. But sure when Humanzi support them in the Point Depot at the end of the month they can ask them about that themselves :)
I'm really surprised by the level of venom in some of the previous posts, it's a bit pathetic that people have to resort to really childish, below-the-belt comments to back up their arguments on whether a band is decent or not. If you don't like the music, that's fair enough...but slagging off someone for being small (??!!)
Such ridiculous comments make the entire argument completely invalid.
The Strokes thing is down to your own interpretation mate!
Have either two albums since been up to the debut? dont think so and yes I have listened! Its all about what you interpret as success really!! if applying to the lowest common denominator is your thing then I wish you and your band all the best!
I read on this thread that you called them a mesh of Strokes, Killers and Editors which I think is way off the mark. Especially the Killers bit
What were you referring to exactly when you said 'lowest common denominator'?
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mannamanNew Member Posts:48
| 2/3/2006 5:07 PM |
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Originally posted by wyldstallyn
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Originally posted by mannaman
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Originally posted by Dromed
Eh, I don't think you can put the Thrills and The Strokes in the same category sorry.
And as for the Strokes..well 3 albums in and they seem to be doing ok..in fact, I'd be pretty sure any band that made it to their level would be pretty satisfied. But sure when Humanzi support them in the Point Depot at the end of the month they can ask them about that themselves :)
I'm really surprised by the level of venom in some of the previous posts, it's a bit pathetic that people have to resort to really childish, below-the-belt comments to back up their arguments on whether a band is decent or not. If you don't like the music, that's fair enough...but slagging off someone for being small (??!!)
Such ridiculous comments make the entire argument completely invalid.
The Strokes thing is down to your own interpretation mate!
Have either two albums since been up to the debut? dont think so and yes I have listened! Its all about what you interpret as success really!! if applying to the lowest common denominator is your thing then I wish you and your band all the best!
I read on this thread that you called them a mesh of Strokes, Killers and Editors which I think is way off the mark. Especially the Killers bit
What were you referring to exactly when you said 'lowest common denominator'?
Very true - I apologise! I was being a bit kind - the Killers and Editors are actually quite good!
I think I am entitled to say I dont like this band if I dont like them. I wasnt among those who talked of people being short or having funny haircuts and I simply thought the songs were weak and they lacked anything original - in other words rock wise they have gone "ok this is whats popular right now - lets do a bit of that and hope we get noticed!" - fair play I say but when you ride the crest of a wave you always run the risk of being thrown off very quickly!
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wyldstallynNew Member Posts:15
| 2/3/2006 5:26 PM |
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Originally posted by mannaman
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Originally posted by wyldstallyn
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Originally posted by mannaman
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Originally posted by Dromed
Eh, I don't think you can put the Thrills and The Strokes in the same category sorry.
And as for the Strokes..well 3 albums in and they seem to be doing ok..in fact, I'd be pretty sure any band that made it to their level would be pretty satisfied. But sure when Humanzi support them in the Point Depot at the end of the month they can ask them about that themselves :)
I'm really surprised by the level of venom in some of the previous posts, it's a bit pathetic that people have to resort to really childish, below-the-belt comments to back up their arguments on whether a band is decent or not. If you don't like the music, that's fair enough...but slagging off someone for being small (??!!)
Such ridiculous comments make the entire argument completely invalid.
The Strokes thing is down to your own interpretation mate!
Have either two albums since been up to the debut? dont think so and yes I have listened! Its all about what you interpret as success really!! if applying to the lowest common denominator is your thing then I wish you and your band all the best!
I read on this thread that you called them a mesh of Strokes, Killers and Editors which I think is way off the mark. Especially the Killers bit
What were you referring to exactly when you said 'lowest common denominator'?
Very true - I apologise! I was being a bit kind - the Killers and Editors are actually quite good!
I think I am entitled to say I dont like this band if I dont like them. I wasnt among those who talked of people being short or having funny haircuts and I simply thought the songs were weak and they lacked anything original - in other words rock wise they have gone "ok this is whats popular right now - lets do a bit of that and hope we get noticed!" - fair play I say but when you ride the crest of a wave you always run the risk of being thrown off very quickly!
Fair enough if you don't like them you don't like them. I happen to think they're excellent. You don't but that's neither here nor there.
Just regarding this bit you said "they lacked anything original". Agian I'll have to go back to what's beem said about orginality and reinterpretaion. By the way I reckon thier influences go further back than merely honing in on "whats popular right now"
Just as a minor sidenote i think Killers, Strokes and Editors struggle a lot in the originality department. This music thing really is subjective, huh? |
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| 2/3/2006 5:32 PM |
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Can anyone name one other Irish band who sound like Humanzi?
I can't, and thats a good thing (imo). Its all about perspective. People are comparing them to the likes of the strokes, the killers etc. Whether or not you like these bands, you are comparing humanzi to undoubtedly hugely successful bands. That's the scale you are measuring them on.
Expectations seem to be very high.. why not just let them, do what they do. If you don't like it fine, there seems to be enough people who do, so they probably dont really give a f**k. they seem to be enjoying themselves more than most twentysomethings i know!!
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Una Veteran Member Posts:1721
| 2/3/2006 7:19 PM |
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My friends, a few points:
regarding the 'originality' comments. just because you're not original doesn't mean you have to be s**t.
If the sound was so bad for Humanzi, then why was it fine for everyone else.
? Unless there are SERIOUS sound difficulties, ie, amps not working AT ALL, then "the sound was really bad" is a euphamism for "the band sound really bad" which is a euphamism for "the band is actually really bad." I've seen great performances from talented bands in f**king cafes for Christ sake - just because they're playing in a poor context does not mean they are going to perform badly. It's just an excuse for a band that are bad at performing.
Anytime anyone slags an Irish band for being s**t, most people drag out the old 'begrudgery' argument. Listen, MOST Irish bands are s**t, most bands in the WORLD are s**t.
And finally, the mistake that we can all make: just because something is new, does not mean it is exciting.
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| 2/3/2006 7:21 PM |
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seems to be humanzi are abit like marmite.......
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
| 2/3/2006 7:28 PM |
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are you trying to say that they smell?
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| 2/3/2006 7:38 PM |
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irish bands that sound like humanzi... none that have made it but around the circuit i suppose that band sick boy, that mighty stef fella at times, vesta varro perhaps... theres quite a few "up and coming" its a very current sound. not a bad one but not tremendously inspiring either. but fair play to them theyve obviusly worked very hard at getting this far and its about time music thats made for a reason other than money is getting some mainstream attention. no bodies saying there the most ground breaking band ever there just lads doing a thing they obviously love and theyre very lucky. the hype may be annoying but itd be much better to talk about whats good in music rather than whats you think is crap
if you think other bands deserve it more than humanzi why try and promote them to offer alternatives not negativity.....this is all very boring
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
| 2/3/2006 7:42 PM |
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Do Humanzi have people talking about them because of their music? It seems to me that their music is just incidental to them being in a bad, by the way most people are going on about them.
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| 2/3/2006 8:07 PM |
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Originally posted by Una
"the sound was really bad" is a euphamism for "the band sound really bad" which is a euphamism for "the band is actually really bad."
b****x. "the sound was really bad" means what it says. Bands play good gigs and bad gigs all the time. Maybe this was a bad one. That does not mean that the band is really bad. The whole is greater than the sum of parts.
What you are doing there Una is blatantly maniuplating somebody's comment to suit your own opinion. An cunning tactic used by journalists since the beginning of time.
In the words of Kurt Kobain "musical inspiration seems to have been deformed by the vicious and self serving pleasure of the journalist which naturally incites band to become paranoid, defensive, jaded, abusive and uncooperative".
The word "vicious" undoubtedly applies to some of the comments posted on this forum.
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
| 2/3/2006 8:16 PM |
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I hope this is the last time Kurt Cobain is referenced in a post about a local Dublin band.
Of course I'm suiting my own opinion, it's a message board.
For the record, I don't really rate Humanzi as particularly good OR bad, I just find the discourse surrounding their very existence pretty interesting, hell, 'wild'.
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| 2/3/2006 8:34 PM |
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The words of Kurt Cobain which I referenced can be universally applied to any band - regardless of geography.
Besides if Humanzi are going to be compared to world renowned bands -is it so far out to use the words of a world renowned musician? His words are true.
Maybe one of the reasons that there is so much discourse surrounding the band's "very existence" is that they are the only band of their kind in Ireland at the moment.
I pose the question again, can anybody name one other Irish band who sound like Humanzi? (and no, the mighty stef and Sick Boy, sound nothing like them!)
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