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12/1/2005 10:54 AM
    SCOOP - NME Album Of The Year Editor's note: this post is going to stick at the top of the page for the rest of today as we feel it raises some important issues about the mainstream media, blogs and of course the music industry. Londonist will update as usual underneath this post. Today, NME publishes its annual Album Of The Year poll. For the benefit of our overseas readers, that's the New Musical Express, the UK's longest-running weekly music journal. The NME being the tastemakers that they are, this is a well-respected poll, with a coveted #1 spot. Well-respected, that is, until now... It has come to our attention that this year, NME may have chosen to publish a doctored version of the aforementioned poll. According to our source, the list of albums printed in this week's publication does not reflect the opinions of its writers, as you might expect. Instead, we're told you'll find a heavily edited version which, we have on good faith, takes some commercial and political factors into consideration. In the document we saw were the actual results of the poll, according to the votes of the NME staff, which we can now compare with the version that appears in today's NME. We notice, for example, that Babyshambles appear at #9 in the published poll, despite fairing particularly badly in the 'genuine' poll. Dare we speculate that Mr. Doherty shifts too many papers for him to be outside the top 10? At least we can glean what NME's reviewers really think of Babyshambles album... Another band who seem to have shot up the rankings according to the list in today's paper is Oasis, who appear at number 24. This hefty leap is nearly matched by Elbow, who have also made the move from near the foot of the chart to a quite respectable number 35. There are four other artists whose positions in the published chart are nothing short of miraculous when compared to the original: Madonna, Kate Bush, the Brakes, and Test Icicles. These entries might be excused on the basis that they are relatively recent albums that might have been released after the votes were counted. But hang on, the Brakes album came out back in July, did it not? So why do the Brakes now find themselves at #40? And how come their sibling band British Sea Power drop down several places from their initial standing? Others disappear completely, having featured in the writers' votes. Whither have New Order, Patrick Wolf, Beck, Wrens, Cut Copy and the Tears fled? Lastly - and this is probably the most contentious discrepancy of all - the order of the top four or five results (including the number one spot, which is taken by Bloc Party in the published list) appear to have been shifted around slightly to reflect what is presumably editorial bias. If we were Arcade Fire, we'd be feeling pretty cheated right about now. As any music lover will know, end-of-year polls are important, as are lists in general (see High Fidelity). Hence, it would be extremely disappointing if the Album Of The Year list we spend hours discussing in the pub is almost completely arbitrary. They might as well have plucked the results out of a hat, for God's sake... Care to explain what external factors could possibly have influenced the poll to this extent, NME?
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    12/1/2005 11:03 AM
    what a surprise - NME in poll make-up shocker. Sure next, you'll be teling me that the Meteors and the Hot Press poll results are not genuine. Say it isnt so! would love to see the 2 lists though - are they online, unicron?
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    12/1/2005 11:08 AM
    No idea, I just got this off another board. The NME contacted the guy who runs the arcadefire.net fansite asking him to plug the issue as the band did so well in the poll. He'd heard about this and had some rather choice words in reply.
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    12/1/2005 11:22 AM
    Thats f**kin unreal but..... totally expected and I'm not suprised in the slightest. Still tho - its a bit wierd that the voters are their readers and yet they're changing the results for what one can only assume is commerical gain - ie sales. Surely they aint doin themselves any favors by doctoring the opinions of their own readers who buy their magazine....? In summation... Conor McNicolas = The Antichrist
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    12/1/2005 11:28 AM
    shock. horror. dismay. relistically the NME isn't a free-sheet though isn't it? let's be honest with ourselves, it's backers are corporates and big brand advertisers. I stopped reading it five/six years ago, mainly because of the hyperbole that surrounds NME 'new bands'- at the time 'Gaye Dad' were the 'it' band. My opinion of it now is that it's akin to Indie Smash-hits, obsessed with gossip, the rampant egoism of the Journalists and fashionistas of London - nothing wrong with that, just not my bag. But look, all magazines face the same challenge - remember NME was once 'vital', as was 'Q' Mag once and unfortunately, 'Uncut', (it seems to be getting dumbere and dumber by the issue)- the balancing act between the act of great cultural/art journalism and producing something populist enought to get media buyers interested in handing over their clients ad-spend. It's a tough call. Business does corrupt 'art'. Bigger question: does NME define 'tastes'. I would argue that if you are a younger music fan the NME probably still floats your boat; but for me, at 29 NME seems to lack credibility and professional distance just like our own 'Hot Press' that reeks of transcribed press releases and intra-industry marketing practices. The whole idea of 'readers polls' mean very little to real music fans... right?
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    12/1/2005 11:30 AM
    So the question is then - whats the best music mag out there? Or is it safer to just potter around the interweb at your leisure?
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    12/1/2005 11:47 AM
    great question Benni i think some free-sheets like Totally Dublin and the amazing Mongrel do a great service to new music in this country. The ticket stand out. I also believe style magazines like Arena have some sharp writers on borad that are just that little bit mature and less given to hyperbole. The Sunday Tribune, a fantastic all-round paper- have some great writers and critics - the thinking mans (or womans) sunday paper, if you will. I still think Uncut is the best thing on the market in Ireland - though it's very 'British' and getting slower and cynical as you'd expect but it vastly superior to Hot Press - which is really going through a very successful business period but very lame'Journalistic' period despite having some great writers - Stuart Clarke take a bow - on staff. Hot Press reads like a poorly written press release at time and it's overtly politically limp wristed leftist stance on all matters really pisses me off. 'Wire' is also a good read but can be overtly pretentious and at times deliberately obscurists. SPIN from the US isn't the worst, a bit like Q but more rock orientated. Still think that the now defunct Select Mag was the best thing ever - great CD's, writers and strong focus on culture outside music. I'd love to see an Irish style-politics-culture-music mag being produced like an Arena - the economist meets the best writing from Uncut and the Sunday Tribune for example. what do you reckon? Blogs I also like.
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    12/1/2005 11:56 AM
    yea whatever happened to Select Magazine? And Melody Maker - back in the day man!
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    12/1/2005 11:58 AM
    Select went bust in 2001 and MM was subsumed into NME (me thinks) MM was a great read back in the day!
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    12/1/2005 12:45 PM
    Select was the tits. Not very surprised at the original post though, what can you realistically expect from a magazine that publishes a 'cool list' based on how good musicians look.
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    12/1/2005 12:55 PM
    And whatever happened to Foggy Notions? I thought that was going to be the genesis of a great Irish inide/rock magazine.
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    12/1/2005 12:57 PM
    Did they get past 4 issues, foggy notions that is. great concept, but way too much effort put into presentation.
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    12/1/2005 1:14 PM
    foggy notions is relaunching again very soon. Plan B is a good magazine. and the wire when you get a tapper cd.
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    12/1/2005 1:23 PM
    Yea I have the first 2 issues of that (Foggy Notions) Quality pieces with Sigur Ros annd Bonny Prince Billy. Photography was class too.
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    12/1/2005 1:27 PM
    NME hasn't been worth pissing on for 10 years. Truly abysmal stuff. I used to be a fan of Uncut but over the last year it has firmly positioned itself in Dad rock (maybe even Grandad rock) territory with a constant rotation of beatles, stones and Springsteen. Their nadir was 20 pages of 'Where were you when you heard Lennon was dead'. Such a boring effort. That said, their CDs of current artists are always top quality.
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    12/1/2005 1:43 PM
    Wouldn't the easiest thing to have done would be to publish two lists? A writers list? And a readers list? Some good points raised regarding music magazines but I reckon Paste (www.pastemagazine.com) is by far the best around today. It is physically attractive to the eye, contains decent writing, laid out well, covers interesting musicians and you get a free cd and dvd with each issue. I also really like Filter (www.filter-mag.com) and Rockpile (www.rockpile.net), although I might be slightly biased on that one. I still buy NME the odd time as it's an amusing read. I used to read Hotpress alot but just can't see a reason why I should buy it anymore. Most of the Irish magazines/freesheets that briefly cover music are pretty bad, some are ok though - again I would be biased towards Totally Dublin. But Foggy Fotions was a class magazine. Uncut, The Word and Record Collector can be good sometimes, as can Believer when they have music snippets. But when I read a magazine, I want something of quality; something different; something that employs writers who can write; something that almost makes you want to hold on to every issue. The only one I can think of that resembles that is Empire, but that is about films. Paste is the only one that comes close to that in terms of music, for me.
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    12/1/2005 2:21 PM
    great stuff on the NME kerfuffle here: http://www.londonist.com/archives/2005/11/scoop_nme_album.php re best music mags. this seems to be a regular topic here on Cluas!! i find these days that i read stuff from all over. Pick up the event guide and Totally dublin and leave them down quickly. Have not read hot press in 10 years and dont feel like i've missed anything. ditto with my 5 years nme-free. foggy notions was all nice style and no substance - just people who couldnt write wowing about the usual indie suspects. lovely design, though! heard alright that there a new mag on the way ("the new foggy notions") so maybe that will be what we all want so much. Doubt it. Maybe it will come out when its supposed to. Doubt that too. its the music writers with the papers that i like. some good stuff in The Guardian (especially dave simpson and occasionally alexis petridis), The Independent, The Times and even The Telegraph. Over here, i read the ticket and day and night and like what some writers do and cant understand why other writers are still been allowed to write the same auld s**te. magazine-wise, Paste is a top read and theres a cool mag called Under The Radar that I picked up in easons of late, Like Mojo when they get their teeth into a subject. Q has turned into Heat for boys who want big toys. Never warmed to Uncut. and then theres the wonderful world of the web. as with print, take it with a pinch of salt, dive in and hold your nose.
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    12/1/2005 3:24 PM
    Yeah, some great webzines out there. On the subject of Foggy Notions, i'm glad to hear it's making a come-back (If it ever went away. I know publication of it was sporadic enough). It certainly was beautifully presented and the quality of the paper made it feel like something worth owning and treasuring. The CD's were top notch too and turned me on to a lot of new or undiscovered stuff. I did find that some of the articles were a bit fawning, particularly the Bonnie "Prince" Billy one. It might have been because the interviewer was a huge fan, was in awe and didn't want to appear like a muppet in front of the Bearded One. Anyway, it's a tiny criticism of an altogether great magazine and one that i'd be happy to shill out for. There's nothing much else out there. Q is rubbish and Uncut is going fast down the tubes. How many times can you have the same freakin' artist on your cover. I get it for the reviews. And when i say "get it" i mean go to Tower on my lunchbreak and read it for free. Scabby b******d that i am!
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    12/1/2005 4:25 PM
    Yeah.....Leagues O'Toole compiled that booklet given out at Electric Picnic using the Foggy Notions copyright. The sooner the better, it gets going again.
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    12/1/2005 4:42 PM
    Foggy Notions seemed to be a bit to much style I thought, It did look really good though and enticed me to by the first two issues. But is there a market for that type of mag in ireland, esepecially with the cost of them €7ish for most mags. Ireland is a hell of alot smaller of a market than the UK, A quick search round there on the internet reveled that NME sold1,036 copies an issue and Uncut sold 2,623 copies an issue in Ireland in 2003.The sheer econmoics of having a decent independent home based alternative looks bleak enough. As hot press has a circulation of 19,154 a fortnight in Ireland
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