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Last Post 8/14/2005 4:28 PM by  stroller
Not all Brit Pop was Sh*t
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8/14/2005 4:28 PM
    I don't know what the reason is; The Kaiser Chiefs, Brett Anderson and Bernard Butler reuniting, the ten year anniversary of Blur vs. Oasis, but every second article I read in a music mag seems to make some reference to Brit Pop. Most of the comments are derogatory but I still can't stop myself from being over whelmed with teenage nostalgia whenever I think of Shine Compilations, Select Magazine, TFI Friday and borrowing tapes off my friends in transition year. Now while I acknowledge that an awful lot of the music labelled with the Brit Pop moniker was rubbish (i.e. most of it) surely there must be some tunes that stand the test of time. In the spirit of the many compilation tapes which I accumulated between 94 and 98 here's my track listing for my "Not all Brit Pop was sh*t" tape; Ash - Girl From Mars Suede - The Drowners Spiritualized - Come Together Oasis - Live Forever Teenage Fanclub - Sparky's Dream The Charlatans - How High Black Grape - Reverend Black Grape Primal Scream - Burning Wheel Blur - To The End Supergrass - Caught By The Fuzz The Bluetones - Slight Return Elastica - Connection Pulp - Do You Remember The First Time Radiohead - Fake Plastic Trees The Divine Comedy - National Express Super Furry Animals - The Man Don't Give a F*ck The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony The Stone Roses - Ten Storey Love Song (And although they're both Swedish I also included these two to make it an even 20); The Cardigans - Rise And Shine The Wannadies - You And Me Song If anybody else wants to submit their own track listing here's a few bands from that era that I omitted; Kula Shaker The Stereophonics Ocean Colour Scene Catatonia Terrorvision Sleeper Gorky's Zygotic Mynci Dodgy The Supernaturals Menswear The Boo Radleys Edwyn Collins Saint Etienne Shed Seven Mansun The Manic Street Preachers Reef Space Hurricane #1 Paul Wellar Cast Embrace Travis Babybird Echobelly The Seahorses James Gene The Longpigs Republica Kenickie Northern Uproar Symposium 3 Colours Red Geneva The Candyskins Salad 18 Wheeler Heavy Stereo Marion
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    8/14/2005 5:17 PM
    wow dude... very accurate. There is not one song from that list I would get rid of and in actual fact it probably kicks the sh*t out of most compilations which have been dumped in our music stores claiming to be "the best EVER...... 45"!!! However, I would definitely have included Geneva, Longpigs & Embrace in that bunch. I am removing my fav band the Manics from that category as I never saw them as Brit Pop. Good list Stroller.
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    8/14/2005 10:41 PM
    You missed an absolute classic in my opinion: Lush - "500 (shake baby shake)" I don't know whether I'd include Saint Etienne or not (Saint Etienne are one of my all time favourite bands by the way). Saint Etienne are simultaneously the only TRUE BritPOP band amongst that lot and not britpop at all. They aren't a Britpop band in terms of what we normally think of as britpop, I mean Oasis and Saint Etienne have very little in common (though Oasis did support Saint Etienne early in their career, being both on Creation). On the other hand they are the only true BritPOP band in that unlike Oasis and similar bands who simply adhered to a Beatles/Mod template, they had an intricate understanding and love of the entire spectrum of 1960s British pop music: Ska, girl pop, psychedelia, northern soul, etc. This understanding enabled them to successfully absorb and combine all these 60s influences (along with a host of other influences from subsequent decades) then reinterpret them to create something new, unique and interesting rather than a dull Beatles pastiche. And of course there is the fact that what Saint Etienne created actually could be classed as pop, rather than 12 bar blues based rock. If you've never listened to "Foxbase Alpha", you're missing one of the greatest albums of the early 90s. Ok, after all that, what track would I pick? difficult one, but I'll probably go with "Like the Swallow" from Foxbase Alpha, or maybe "Marios Cafe" from "So Tough" or "like a Motorway" or..... I'd also add The Boo Radleys "Lasarus" to that list.
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    8/15/2005 12:39 PM
    To keep the Britpop Mix Tape vibe going: Ocean Colour Scene - The Day We Caught The Train Seahorses - Round The Universe Verve - Lucky Man Paul Weller - Science Embrace - Come Back To What You Know Cast - Beat Mama Oasis - D'yer Wanna Be A Spaceman? Travis - Driftwood Supergrass - Pumping On Your Stereo Gomez - Whippin' Piccadilly Stone Roses - I Wanna Be Adored Charlatans - One To Another Stereophonics - Local Boy In The Photograph Starsailor - Poor Misguided Fool Radiohead - Karma Police
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    8/15/2005 1:29 PM
    Always had a soft spot for Gene, very under rated, IMHO...
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    8/15/2005 1:54 PM
    The Boo Radleys 'Giant Steps' album (where you'll find 'Lazarus') is one of the great albums of the nineties. Martin Carr was a genius and Sice was his angel.
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    8/15/2005 3:07 PM
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    I'd also add The Boo Radleys "Lasarus" to that list.
    What's the story with that track? I've heard people say that the original single is this epic sprawling anthem but that the edited version that appears on the album in nowhere as good. Is that right?
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    8/15/2005 8:00 PM
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    Originally posted by stroller What's the story with that track? I've heard people say that the original single is this epic sprawling anthem but that the edited version that appears on the album in nowhere as good. Is that right?
    No idea Stroller, don't actually own a copy of either at the moment, but the version I remember hearing had this amazingly cool intro that just seeemed to go on foreeeeeever....
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    8/15/2005 8:47 PM
    The single was released with a slew of remixes, the best was the aforementioned 12" version which has a terrific dub intro building up to those majestic trumpets. You can listen to it here http://indiecater.com/radio.html
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    8/16/2005 11:36 AM
    My personal britpop compo.... Suede – so young Oasis - whatever Teenage Fanclub – verisimilitude The Charlatans – north country boy Black Grape – kelly’s hero Primal Scream – star Blur – for tomorrow Supergrass – going out The Bluetones – can’t stand me down Elastica – line up Pulp – disco 2000 Radiohead – talk show host Super Furry Animals – god show me magic! The Verve - history Gorky's Zygotic Mynci – patio song The Boo Radleys – from the bench at belvedere Mansun – wide open space Embrace – dry kids Kenickie – stay in the sun Symposium – drink to the sunshine
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    8/17/2005 10:33 AM
    pedantry perhaps but you lot seem to be just mentioning every british band of the time... suede (who started it off), oasis, blur, pulp, elastica, sleeper, shed 7, denim, menswear, echobelly, catatonia, republica, space - that was britpop and i still cringe thinking about it... almost put me off music for life
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    8/17/2005 10:54 AM
    Funny that. I was at the age that Britpop got me INTO music for life! I don't listen to any of that stuff now really but I cant help be a bit nostalgic about the time. Amid the s**t there really were some all-time classic singles.
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    8/17/2005 10:55 AM
    i still cant see what everyones problem is with Shed Seven, they were a bloody good band!
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    8/17/2005 2:10 PM
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    pedantry perhaps but you lot seem to be just mentioning every british band of the time... suede (who started it off), oasis, blur, pulp, elastica, sleeper, shed 7, denim, menswear, echobelly, catatonia, republica, space - that was britpop and i still cringe thinking about it... almost put me off music for life
    SUEDE cannot be thrown into the Category of Brit Pop either. Should have mentioned in my earlier post. Suede started something (albeit thru listening to bowie) but the other acts above took it to a slightly more cheesy lower level, some was good, some was terrible. If you look at all those acts above, not one of them, in my opinion, came out with a second album which could even share a shelf with Suede's Dog Man Star. And some did not even last a second album.
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    8/17/2005 2:20 PM
    hey fella, suede were the epitome of britpop... the name was formed because of them... ...however, i'm not trying to imply that they are rubbish (they just never did anything for me) and i realise that a tonne of really bad bands that followed them were lumped into the same genre making suede these unwilling innovators of "britpop", a tag obviously hoisted upon them by the music press
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