A while back we all had a discussion on the merits of the music played in a certain dublin establishment (no names). One of my arguments at the time was that as I had paid money into the establishment, i was therefore availing of a service and I was therefore entitled to a certain level of quality. In the times we live in, records labels spend fortunes marketing their bands, on tv, radio, posters, tshirts, record signings, world tours, etc. I wonder, have these bands/Artists effectively become products and therefore are we as purchasers of these products ( cds/tickets/tshirts/dvds), entitled to a certain rights as a results. When I say Rights, Im not implying that a consumer should get their money back because they dont like a bands new album, that would be absurd. The most obvious example I can think of where rights might apply is where I purchase a ticket for a gig for a band. Its a complete gamble each time you buy a ticket to go see a band. You have no idea how long the set will be, or what the setlist will be ( thats part of the fun i suppose). Will a reasonable amount of their back catalogue be played ? Will the sound be good ? Will the band be on form ? Can we seperate the Bands/Artists from the labels which market them as products and therefore remove any responsibility from their shoulders ? Im just throwing this one out there as a discussion starter, my own view is that in a way, I am a consumer of a product and while a band might rightly so consider themselves producers of an art form, I think that I should be entitled to some rights as a result, im just not sure what they are ? Any views ?