Discussion Forums

PrevPrev Go to previous topic
NextNext Go to next topic
Last Post 11/17/2004 12:18 PM by  Gar
New Live Aid Track
 14 Replies
Sort:
You are not authorized to post a reply.
Author Messages
Gar
Veteran Member
Veteran Member
Posts:1676


--
11/17/2004 12:18 PM
    Just heard the new Live Aid song, not very impressive. The original wasn't even a great song to begin with. But I know it's all for a good cause. I just wondered with so many bad (in my opinion anyway) artists like Busted, on this new version...where should Geldof have drawn the line? Yes he needs whoever is popular in the charts for the song to sell. But isn't there better artists out there that could've made it sell just as well. I thought that old 'Perfect Day' song with Lou Reed and everyone else was a perfect example of how it should be done. There are a few points to be raised with is: - Did Geldof lose his bottle and not take full control of who appears on the track? - Should they have written and composed a better tune? - Besides being for a good cause, who's cameo on the track is of noteworthy praise? - Is the current music scene in such a terrible state that we are relying on Busted to save African children? - Who would you include on a charity single (of artists still performing today) and who should write it?
    Binokular
    Veteran Member
    Veteran Member
    Posts:1665


    --
    11/17/2004 12:36 PM
    I think your missing the point Gar. Geldof did not "lose his bottle", the first time round Geldof just wanted the track to make loads of money for charity so he rounded up pretty much everyone he could who was popular at the time, whether they were good or not, not just the "credible" ones. So the first time round we had: # Adam Clayton (U2) # Phil Collins # Bob Geldof # Steve Norman (Spandau Ballet) # Chris Cross (Ultravox) # John Taylor (Duran Duran) # Paul Young # Tony Hadley (Spandau Ballet) # Glenn Gregory (Heaven 17) # Simon Le Bon (Duran Duran) # Simon Crowe # Marilyn # Keren Woodward (Bananarama) # Martin Kemp (Spandau Ballet) # Jody Watley # Bono (U2) # Paul Weller # James Taylor # George Michael # Midge Ure (Ultravox) # Martin Ware (Heaven 17) # John Keeble (Spandau Ballet) # Gary Kemp (Spandau Ballet) # Roger Taylor (Duran Duran) # Sarah Dullin (Bananarama) # Siobhan Fahey (Bananarama) # Peter Briquette # Francis Rossi (Status Quo) # Robert 'Kool' Bell # Dennis Thomas # Andy Taylor (Duran Duran) # Jon Moss (Culture Club) # Sting # Rick Parfitt (Status Quo) # Nick Rhodes (Duran Duran) # Johnny Fingers # David Bowie # Boy George # Holly Johnson (Frankie Goes to Hollywood) # Paul McCartney And when it was re-recorded again in 1989, we had: # Bananarama # Big Fun # Bros # Cathy Dennis # D Mob # Jason Donovan # Kevin Godley # Glen Goldsmith # Kylie Minogue # The Pasadenas # Chris Rea # Cliff Richard # Jimmy Somerville # Sonia # Lisa Stansfield # Techtronics # Wet Wet Wet Basically each time, it was a case of who is both reasonably popular and available at the time. It's no different this time round.
    elle
    New Member
    New Member
    Posts:54


    --
    11/17/2004 12:50 PM
    i Dunno, I just think that first time round it was planned a lot better. I mean the majority of the artists on the original were credible(in fairness I wouldn't be a big fan of most of them but they're still remembered today), this time it seems it was a case of whoever turned up on the day! Who is going to remember Busted or natasha beddingfield in twenty yrs time??? I just think if they wanted to remake it, they could have found better artists to do the job, what about westlife?kylie(i know she's on one already)?ok I'm sure there's loads of other "reputable" pop singers out there but I can't name anymore, I'm drawing a blank here!Not to mention all the great indie/rock bands around now, the killers, kings of leon, (fair enough they probably wouldnt have done it anyway...). It just seems to me that this new version is a bit of a karaoke piss take, I mean who thought it as a good idea to allow DIZZY RASCAL to do that rap thing in the middle of it?It's terrible!Who the f**k is dizzy rascal anyway?First time I heard of him was on the live aid thing! Yes people will probably buy it and yes it will probably go to number, but in all fairness it's s**te! Lou Reed--Perfect Day now that's how to do a charity single!!!
    Gar
    Veteran Member
    Veteran Member
    Posts:1676


    --
    11/17/2004 12:53 PM
    What I meant was...should Geldof have stamped his authority and drew up a shortlist. Then see what artists are interested. See who could sell the single from that final draft. Then throw in some popular artists. I know that with a charity single, he probably didn't have all that freedom or time to do so. But point I was trying to make was 'wouldn't it ahve been more of a success if the song and artists appearing on it were better?"
    elle
    New Member
    New Member
    Posts:54


    --
    11/17/2004 12:55 PM
    yeah i totally agree gar, i mean didn't geldof have much more say the first time round?
    alcopop
    New Member
    New Member
    Posts:44


    --
    11/17/2004 1:24 PM
    Making money for a good cause versus taste??? Hmmm...who'll win this one! Is it as bad as the bros/bananarama one?
    Binokular
    Veteran Member
    Veteran Member
    Posts:1665


    --
    11/17/2004 1:34 PM
    quote:
    Originally posted by elle
    who the f**k is dizzy rascal anyway?
    Dizzee Rascal is a hugely talented South London UK Garage/Hip Hop artist, who could easily kick Mike Skinners arse. He won the Mercury music prize in 2003 for his album "Boy in Da Corner". Even still, gotta agree with you elle, probably a really dumb idea to let him do it. Rapping half way through the middle of a songs has got to be one of the most abused gimmicks in pop. The majority of the artists the first time being credible? You're kidding right? I certainly don't remember Phil Collins (post Genesis), Spandau Ballet, Bananarama, Ultravox, Duran Duran, Culture Club and Frankie goes to Hollywood being regarded as the height of credibility back in the 80s. Some of them are seen as credible now, I mean Bananarama were brilliant, but not credible at the time. If they wanted credbility, they could have got The Smiths, but not that many people would have known who the hell The Smiths were in 1984. Gar, you say your point is "'wouldn't it have been more of a success if the song and artists appearing on it were better?". Er, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the single won't be realeased until the end of November in the run up for the Christmas number 1, and its reckoned its gonna be massive when its released. We'll just have to wait and see.
    bonzo
    Basic Member
    Basic Member
    Posts:364


    --
    11/17/2004 2:39 PM
    I don't think it matters what it is like, if it raises awareness of the plight in Sudan then it can only be a good thing. Its not a great song anyway, no matter who records it. Geldof is quoted as saying its not about raising money, this time its about awareness.
    Karlito
    Basic Member
    Basic Member
    Posts:210


    --
    11/17/2004 4:12 PM
    Anyway if people are gonna say, is this artist credible or is that artist credible it's just stupid. There is a wide variety of artists on the single that will apeal to most people no matters what sort of music you're into. As bonzo pointed out it's about awareness, so if some 13 year old buys it because busted is on it, at least some sort of message is getting across to them aswell people who like "credible" music!!
    Optimus
    Basic Member
    Basic Member
    Posts:312


    --
    11/17/2004 4:52 PM
    yeah its crap!
    Vent My Spleen
    Advanced Member
    Advanced Member
    Posts:500


    --
    11/17/2004 5:09 PM
    "One can have a great concern for the people of Ethiopia, but it's another thing to inflict daily torture on the people of England" – Morrissey.
    mutch
    Basic Member
    Basic Member
    Posts:392


    --
    11/17/2004 5:22 PM
    if i was in sudan i wouldnt give two fux what anyone here thought. id just want the help.
    Gar
    Veteran Member
    Veteran Member
    Posts:1676


    --
    11/17/2004 5:40 PM
    I've been thinking about this for a bit now and I did approach all wrong. Geldof (who I didn't mention it before is someone who interests me quite alot) has tapped into the main market in order to sell cd's. Ok, some of the acts on the original and the new one are pretty crap but they have legions of fans. So what it doesn't matter, because their millions of fans will buy the cd just because they sing one line on it. And in turn it helps out the African children. So I apologise for missing the point. But what this thread should be is something along the lines of a desired line-up for a charity single....like that of 'Perfect Day'. It isn't a record that promises anything but does what it can. Any suggestions?
    tilda
    New Member
    New Member
    Posts:7


    --
    11/23/2004 12:58 PM
    quote:
    Originally posted by Gar
    Just heard the new Live Aid song, not very impressive.
    it was never gonna be as good as the original
    Unicron
    Veteran Member
    Veteran Member
    Posts:1696


    --
    11/23/2004 1:52 PM
    I think it's miles better than the first one, it's still crap though. As for the cred thing apparently westlife were bitching about offering to get involved in this but were turned down. This is a song that Thom Yorke, Jonny Greenwood, Bono, Dizee Rascall and Chris Martin are involved in, whatever you think of their music you can't doubt their credibility. And the sugababes are apparently the girl band that it's ok to like.
    You are not authorized to post a reply.