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5/2/2006 8:55 PM
    This coming Friday @ 23:35 on BBC2. On the show this week are Pearl Jam, The Zutons, Jamie Foxx and Corinne Bailey Rae. Wonder if the show's researchers will give any of the newer Irish acts a slot this season. Maybe Humanzi, The Immediate, Director, The Marshals, Julie Feeney or The Chalets have a chance.
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    5/3/2006 9:16 AM
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    This coming Friday @ 23:35 on BBC2. On the show this week are Pearl Jam, The Zutons, Jamie Foxx and Corinne Bailey Rae. Wonder if the show's researchers will give any of the newer Irish acts a slot this season. Maybe Humanzi, The Immediate, Director, The Marshals, Julie Feeney or The Chalets have a chance.
    i'd say The Chalets or Feeney, maybe The Immediate. Probably declan o'rourke too, unfortunately. The others have not had a sniff of attention in the UK yet so i'd be surprised if they appear.
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    5/3/2006 10:05 AM
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Rodrigo y Gabriela getting a slot on Jools - they're definitely making waves in London and it's not just ex-pats at their shows which is good to see That said, I'm not that mad on R&G myself - granted they're fantastic musicians but they work much better for say half an hour in a small intimate venue rather than 90 minutes in the Olympia
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    5/3/2006 10:13 AM
    Or perhaps Bell X1, as their album only got released there recently didn't it?
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    5/3/2006 10:57 AM
    indeed, they're another possibility - hopefully we'll see at least one or two of that list in the series Not overjoyed at the line-up for the first programme though - I'm sure CRB and the Zutons were on the last run of Jools and Jamie Foxx is all bling and not much substance(aside from his collaboration with Kanye West), Pearl Jam could be interesting though
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    5/3/2006 11:50 AM
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    Or perhaps Bell X1, as their album only got released there recently didn't it?
    Wouldnt be suprised. There was a big campaign on the website to get them aired on Jools but I suppose thats common enough. Anyone remember the Dublin band Pelvis that appeared on the same edition as Lenny Kravitz, Pulp and I think The Pumpkins as far as I remember????
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    5/3/2006 12:49 PM
    I dont know, I find it a very tedious show to watch on an ongoing basis but he is one of those sacred cows, like John Peel
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    5/3/2006 1:34 PM
    Spinto Band are on it Friday night too and Tom Dunne favourite Jenny Lewis.
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    5/8/2006 8:54 AM
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    Wouldn't be surprised to see Rodrigo y Gabriela getting a slot on Jools - they're definitely making waves in London and it's not just ex-pats at their shows which is good to see That said, I'm not that mad on R&G myself - granted they're fantastic musicians but they work much better for say half an hour in a small intimate venue rather than 90 minutes in the Olympia
    Ta Dah !! Rodrigo y Gabriela, Richard Ashcroft and We Are Scientists are among the guests on the second show of the new series.
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    5/8/2006 9:14 AM
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    I dont know, I find it a very tedious show to watch on an ongoing basis but he is one of those sacred cows, like John Peel
    where else are you gonna see live music regularly on the tele????
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    5/8/2006 10:13 AM
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    Originally posted by petethedrummer where else are you gonna see live music regularly on the tele????
    The late late show
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    5/8/2006 10:35 AM
    Celebrity Jigs & Reels.
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    5/8/2006 10:54 AM
    I can never understand why they don't repeat Later even if they stuck it on BBC 3 or 4. There used to be a repeat on a Sunday i think a few years back.
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    5/8/2006 11:02 AM
    Did any of ye see the show on Friday? I liked the Jenny Lewis one and Pearl Jam doing alive too. Missed their new one. Jamie Foxx's song was so like Chef out of South Park it was comical. "I'm gonna make love to you all night long babyyyyy" etc.
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    5/8/2006 11:06 AM
    I thought the Spinto Band were crap. After reading so many good comments about them on this board, I was curious to hear them. But they were simply muck. Jamie Foxx was terrible as well. The sound for The Zutons was really off-putting, Pearl Jam and Corrine Bailey Rae were very ordinary and Jenny Lewis wasn't used enough. Hopefully next week will be far better.
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    5/8/2006 11:22 AM
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    where else are you gonna see live music regularly on the tele????
    The album chart show, for a start, although whether Snow Patrol playing tracks from their latest album actually counts as a live music is a moot point.
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    5/8/2006 11:29 AM
    Missed the show, but gar, check the album out our check out their myspace account http://www.myspace.com/thespintoband Check out the Oh Mandy tune... I have to say i really like this band and their gig in whelans was one of the better ones ive ever seen there
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    5/8/2006 11:52 AM
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    where else are you gonna see live music regularly on the tele????
    The album chart show, for a start, although whether Snow Patrol playing tracks from their latest album actually counts as a live music is a moot point.
    Moo Point ... A cows opinion.
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    5/8/2006 1:09 PM
    I thought the spinto band were atrocious. Tried really hard to like them but christ they sucked. Leave the yazoos for Monty Python sketches
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    5/8/2006 1:19 PM
    Jamie Foxx was hilarious, I was laughing my ass off when he was on. Jenny Lewis was s**t. I'd forgotten that Alive could well be one of the best songs ever, I wish I could play guitar like Mike McCready, not to be as good as him; just to do the playing behind the head thing. Zutons were the zutons, I was too busy drooling over the sax player to notice if they were good. Corrine Bailey Ray, as soon as she came on I picked up my own guitar and played until she was done (3 SONGS??? WTF???) I didn't care for the first Spinto band song but I loved Oh Mandy despite it kinda passing me by until now whenever I heard it on the radio, I bought the album on Saturday because of it in fact.
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    5/8/2006 3:16 PM
    Can Jamie Foxx do an interview WITHOUT singing and "doing" Ray please? "Golddigger" was a national anthem in America was it? Pshaw. Liked Jenny Lewis song but was her guitar totally out of tune or what? Zutons are starting to annoy me. I dont like looking at the singer when he sings. Looks like an angry turnip.
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    5/8/2006 3:35 PM
    I should point out that I was laughing at Jamie Foxx, not with him.
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    5/8/2006 4:10 PM
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    Zutons were the zutons, I was too busy drooling over the sax player to notice if they were good.
    Interesting.....So do you reckon if she were to pile on the pounds, dress real dowdy and make herself as unattractive as possible she/they might be taken more seriously?
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    5/8/2006 4:19 PM
    No, not at all, they've got a Mercury Nomination under their belts so obviously they're taken seriously. I just don't care for their music, I know I don't care for their music, wasn't particularly interested in hearing if they had undergone a massive jump in quality (and having heard the single on the radio was pretty confident that they hadn't) but that doesn't mean I can't have a crush on one of their members. If they were concerned about little 'ol me taking them seriously the thing to do would be to jack in the irksome scally psychedelica and making some decent music instead.
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    5/8/2006 4:56 PM
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    If they were concerned about little 'ol me taking them seriously
    Nah, I doubt they're too concerned
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    5/8/2006 5:01 PM
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    Zutons were the zutons, I was too busy drooling over the sax player to notice if they were good.
    Interesting.....So do you reckon if she were to pile on the pounds, dress real dowdy and make herself as unattractive as possible she/they might be taken more seriously?
    To parapharse, Joey 'The Lips' from Roddy Doyle's 'The Committments', "Imagine her lips on your nips"
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    5/8/2006 5:02 PM
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    Zutons were the zutons, I was too busy drooling over the sax player to notice if they were good.
    Interesting.....So do you reckon if she were to pile on the pounds, dress real dowdy and make herself as unattractive as possible she/they might be taken more seriously?
    To parapharse, Joey 'The Lips' from Roddy Doyle's 'The Committments', "Imagine her lips on your nips"
    Would rather her nips on my lips, but different stokes ;)
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    5/8/2006 5:35 PM
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    Zutons were the zutons, I was too busy drooling over the sax player to notice if they were good.
    Interesting.....So do you reckon if she were to pile on the pounds, dress real dowdy and make herself as unattractive as possible she/they might be taken more seriously?
    To parapharse, Joey 'The Lips' from Roddy Doyle's 'The Committments', "Imagine her lips on your nips"
    Would rather her nips on my lips, but different stokes ;)
    Hey, what can I say, her hips, her nips, her lips, to quote Damien Dempsey, "Its aaalll guuuud"
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    5/9/2006 9:30 AM
    Very mature lads
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    5/9/2006 9:56 PM
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    Very mature lads
    I am of the school of thought that Rock 'n Roll is about sex, drugs and, er, rock 'n' roll. Hobbits and bedwetters like Keane and Coldplay may have skewed the goalposts but that doesn't change the fundamentals.
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    5/10/2006 9:54 AM
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    Very mature lads
    I am of the school of thought that Rock 'n Roll is about sex, drugs and, er, rock 'n' roll. Hobbits and bedwetters like Keane and Coldplay may have skewed the goalposts but that doesn't change the fundamentals.
    What exactly have Keane or Coldplay got to do with this Jules? Yis sound like a bunch of giggling school boys..."her hips, her nips, her lips" ?? The girl is a good musician and happens to be a good looking girl with it - and I'm sure she can rock'n'roll with the best of them. Don't patronise.
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    5/10/2006 10:38 AM
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    Very mature lads
    I am of the school of thought that Rock 'n Roll is about sex, drugs and, er, rock 'n' roll. Hobbits and bedwetters like Keane and Coldplay may have skewed the goalposts but that doesn't change the fundamentals.
    What exactly have Keane or Coldplay got to do with this Jules? Yis sound like a bunch of giggling school boys..."her hips, her nips, her lips" ?? The girl is a good musician and happens to be a good looking girl with it - and I'm sure she can rock'n'roll with the best of them. Don't patronise.
    Ok, school boy sniggering aside, lets have a quick look at the pop charts and ask ourselves when it comes to todays female acts, what is more important, musicianship or sex appeal, and before you throw up your hand in horror, let me just remind you that good looks/sex appeal has long played a key role in the popularity of male rock and pop stars eg: Elvis, Mick Jagger, David Bowie and Westlife to name a few. In fact, the vary term "rock 'n' roll" is slang for sex. So, here are a few very successful female acts appearing in the present IRMA irish charts. Pu**ycat Dolls (hmm, censored by the systen software, interesting) Madonna Britney Spears Katie Melua All of them, to a varying extent, have used their looks and/or sexuality as a key part of their act (just as have male musicians). In the last number of years, I would say that,yes, your looks have become a key ingredient in selling you to an audience, and in some cases is a more important factor than your musical ability, and that is not confined to pop, the same is true of Jazz (Victoria Tolstory, Norah Jones) and Classical (Anne Sophie Mutter). There are a lot of fine musicians out there but to suggest that looks don't play a part in getting ahead in music (whether male or female), is naive. Would Abi Harding be playng sax in the Zutons if she weighed 20 stone and looked like a bag of hammers ? Don't think so, but she might get into The Magic Numbers.
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    5/10/2006 12:00 PM
    THanks for your IRMA list Jules but I don't need it pointed out to me that if your female in music you have no choice but to expolit your sexuality to get anywhere - Basically if you don't come across as sexually agressive or sassy (from pu**ycat Dolls to Courtney Love et al) or demure (from Gemma Hayes to Isobel Cambell) - if you don't fit in a a category of 'sex sells so sell it' then there is no place for you. How many ugly, balding, overweight men can you name in music today - there's a shedload. Of course sex appeal has played a role in some men's careers but it is by no means a requirement to be taken seriously. There are lots of guys that have absolutely no sex appeal that can exist in whatever genre they've chosen. They are there because they make music not because they are selling a notion of sex. Why is it not possible for women to occupy that same space? It's a male dominated industry and your comment about Abbi's weight and that charmimg comment about the Magic Numbers proves my point perfectly. It's sexist, it's derogatory and it's completely outdated. The attitude that you've displayed amounts to 'listen love, don't get your knickers in a knot, that's the way life is and there's no point stressing over it'. And you're saying I'm being naive?! HA!
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    5/10/2006 12:16 PM
    What about Gillian Welsch
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    5/10/2006 12:39 PM
    'It's a male dominated industry' Just look at the cover of the new issue of NME to back that point up - it is meant to be an issue all about rock n' roll heroes but there is not one female musician on the cover. Not that it overly matters in that kind of publication but it proves how much higher male rockstars are than female.
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    5/10/2006 1:53 PM
    Ya can't beat a bit of totty to liven things up.
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    5/10/2006 1:55 PM
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    Pearl Jam could be interesting though
    Well that would be a first.


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