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12/5/2005 8:59 AM
    Did anyone else read the Humanzi interview in the Sunday Tribune yesterday? Did anyone else think that your man's pre-occupation with what the Irish press thought of them and all the slagging they were getting on internet boards smacked of extreme paranoia? jeez, man, they need some chill pills as opposed to cheap speed The interview is at tribune.ie but u have to register first (its free) to read it.
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    12/5/2005 9:15 AM
    copy and paste!!!
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    12/5/2005 9:37 AM
    where is it on that website? i cant fecking find it
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    12/5/2005 9:39 AM
    I cant find it at tribune.ie
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    12/5/2005 10:04 AM
    I hope we are not being punked
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    12/5/2005 10:11 AM
    Its in Tribune 2, page 14 (paper version).
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    12/5/2005 11:15 AM
    Sorry people - should have cut and pasted it, yes, the tribune website is utterly useless - almost as bad as the sunday business post one heres the piece... Arts The million dollar question Neil Dunphy TRYING to talk to Humanzi frontman Shaun Mulrooney without mentioning that record deal is impossible. Whether he likes it or not, it's one of the main reasons we're doing the interview. Six months ago Humanzi were just another young Dublin indie rock band, but when the A&R men came from across the water, the word got out. This sort of thing doesn't happen to everyone. Clinching a "label deal" with Fiction, which is a fairly autonomous part of the Universal leviathan, the " 1m" word got around too. Mulrooney insists this is all crap. "We're nowhere, " he says from his bus in England, making the hard yards as part of an NME club tour across Britain. "We're only starting. Maybe in Ireland we have had a good year and people know who we are. Some people hate us and some people don't. We really want to take this to another level because we know what we have is good enough." It's clear that with all the press about the deal there is a huge amount of resentment towards Humanzi, probably because there is very little material to go on. A mini Irish tour and first single, 'Fix the Cracks', behind them, their debut album is now recorded, mixed and awaiting a title and release date. The rest is done. So who hates them? "Well there is a sort of a nasty thing going on on internet chat sites, " he says. "I don't really go on chat sites but I've been told about it. There's a nasty side to these faceless people who go around and begrudge us. Nobody's heard our stuff. We got a brutal review of our single. Somebody was reviewing it in a big paper that I won't name and they didn't mention the song. They were just talking about the band. Lazy journalism really but nobody really knows what we're up to. So until the album is out I think people should stay away from judging us." What about the now infamous record contract? "Don't mind that. It's just unfortunate people latch on to these stupid things. But we got a review and it was like 'review the single don't review the band and the situation we're in'. They didn't review the single. . ." A strange predicament for any band, but there's no denying the benefits of any kind of press no matter how bad it is. It's only natural that people are going to judge the band more harshly than most. "Yeah, of course they would when they read about the deal, but would they believe it? No new band would get signed for 1m. If you were any way in the know you'd go, that's not true. But we are signed to a major and there is no denying that you are obviously going to get people knocking you for that straight away. Everybody is owned by everybody now, so it's no big deal, but the people we work with, Fiction, have given us complete people. They work with some really good bands, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Queens of the Stone Age came through there, so we are totally confident in the people around us. At the end of the day we want to sell as many records and connect to as many people as possible and you won't be able to do that on some crappy label." With major label support has come the opportunity to work with top producers and engineers, as well as securing the NME tour. Half of it was recorded with Nine Inch Nails drummer Chris Vrenna and some of it with Gareth Mannix, an up-andcoming producer who has worked with the Thrills and the Chalets among others. Here is a band that got signed with just a bunch of demos. "We gave our manager the tapes and then the company decided they would pay for us to go in and get better recordings but we ended up keeping them. So half of the album is built on the old demos and the other half is newer stuff. . . The whole album came together in this weird way. It was all done over months even though we only spent 14 days in total recording it." Once recorded, the four went over to Connecticut for the mixing with Peter Katis, who produced both Interpol albums. "We love the sound of Interpol's stuff and Peter mixed the whole thing so it sounds like a proper album now and not just a bunch of songs." The band have about five working titles and hope to draw a catch-all title picked up from the pervading mood of the album: edgy and claustrophobic. "The album is dark, moody and intense and there's not much of a breather on it either which we're getting a bit of stick for, but f**k it. . . It's 90mph for the whole thing, but we're very happy with it." Mulrooney is surprised to learn that I've heard quite a lot of it, courtesy of their manager. It sounds confident, catchy and noisy; it's rock 'n' roll all right. 'Diet Pills' has a killer bassline reminiscent of Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, while on 'Out on A Wire' the Interpol/Joy Division influences are apparent but it's much more poppy, with a singalong chorus. Another one, 'I Want Silence', is dirtier, faster and has an excellent guitar run with cool keys in the background. There's a bit more to this band than hype; if only they can avoid becoming the next JJ72 and keep working hard like Bell X1. There really is no rush. Mulrooney met fellow singer/guitarist Colm Rutledge, bassist Gary Lonergan and drummer Brian Gallagher in "boozers in town" when they were all about 17 years old. "We didn't really like each other at first but ended up becoming friends over time, " says Mulrooney. "We used to drink in Bruxelles when we used to think we were the dog's bollocks. And we used go to Temple Bar Music Centre to Screamadelica." Now 23, Mulrooney writes most Humanzi lyrics. About what? "Sometimes a song is very direct like 'Diet Pills'. I was in America and looking at TV and it seemed so claustrophobic, and then I just wrote this direct song, and then other times it goes off on big tangents. There's a lot of social conscience in my writing and then there's a lot of paranoia; the feeling on a Monday morning after partying too much on the weekend, " he laughs. His favourite artists are Iggy Pop, Joy Division, Siouxsie and the Banshees and all that edgy stuff "but we all love the Stones as well. Exile on Main Street is the tour bus album." After the hype back home you get the sense that Humanzi are enjoying the hard graft of trying to win over hip English audiences who don't know anything about them. "This is where you have to do your homework, do your apprenticeship, " he says. "People are just going nuts for bands over here. We were on tour with Hard-Fi and there were millions of girls queuing up early in the day. It's like Dublin but 20 times bigger. People are into music, but the Irish press aren't taking much notice of what's happening at the moment. Every time I come back there are 10 new outstanding bands that are playing. There is a real scene there but the press don't seem to be picking up on it. They are not really current and relevant." Mulrooney is talking about a festival of young Irish bands including The Things, Mainline, Sickboy and the Zealots called Psychofest that was held in October. "It was a really current vibrant thing but it was the usual crap . . . no one from the press turned up, " he says. It's this kind of thing that could produce the next really big Irish rock band. "Yeah we hope it's us. . . but on the other hand, if it isn't I could be back in Argos packing shelves. . ."
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    12/5/2005 3:17 PM
    Good stuff.
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    12/5/2005 3:41 PM
    Met him on Saturday, he was locked. His enjoying himself at least. Still ain't heard any o the tunes, what do people think of them?
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    12/5/2005 3:55 PM
    http://www.todayfm.com/Article.asp?id=137372 Artist of the Week on PetSounds. Single can be listened to on the link.
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    12/5/2005 3:59 PM
    Exquisite, cheers! I shall check it out when I get at a computer with speakers on it. yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!!!
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    12/5/2005 4:14 PM
    Wasn't the singer in a vodafone ad before?? He was in a different band then though... and a bit fatter... Maybe i'm gone loopy...
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    12/5/2005 4:46 PM
    Tommy, yeah, the band was listo Hey Sean, you can check out some of their tunes on their website www.humanzi.com
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    12/5/2005 5:08 PM
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    http://www.todayfm.com/Article.asp?id=137372 Artist of the Week on PetSounds. Single can be listened to on the link.
    So far 83% of cats prefer it!
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    12/5/2005 5:36 PM
    Dunno if he was in a Vodafone ad, but he did do some of that extra stuff, so maybe. You'll see him behind the decks on a scene of Niel Jordans "Breakfast on Pluto", if that ever gets put out, with me dancing around the place too! If you watch carefully, you'll notice that no one has any shoes on!
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    12/6/2005 8:39 AM
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    Niel Jordans "Breakfast on Pluto", if that ever gets put out,
    Breakfast on Pluto European Premiere in aid of UNICEF Ireland. Tickets available from UNICEF Ireland on +353 1 878 3000. Savoy, Dublin Date: 11 January 2006
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    12/8/2005 12:58 PM
    sorry for dragging up a relatively old thread but in response to your post Pilchard, I really don't think that "your man" from humanzi being interviewed was displaying signs of "extreme paranoia". The fact of the matter is that there really has been a backlash against this band. I've witnessed it myself on various music forums/messageboards. It's only human to be disheartened hearing such venomous comments about your band when they are working their b****xes off trying to make something of themselves. I for one think they have the potential to go a long way. they all play their instruments brilliantly, have some great songs and sean mulrooney is a fantastic front man with tonnes of charisma. what is it with the irish? why are we so down on anyone who seems to get a sniff of success!! its getting really boring........why can't we by loyal to our own?? fair enough if you don't like the music but theres no need for such spitefullness!! its all the haters that need to take some chill pills!!
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    12/8/2005 3:21 PM
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    .why can't we by loyal to our own??
    thats the reason why we've exported so many s**te bands over the years. we have to apply the same criteria we apply to every band to bands from here. for years, bands have got an easy ride from (most) irish critics and writers and commentators just cos they're irish. once they go to london or new york, they soon find out that they're just not good enough. you can count the number of internationally successful irish bands on the fingers of one hand... U2 The Corrs The Cranberries someone is sure to come back and mention Van or The Thrills but i'm talking about bands (sorry van) and bands who have sold at least a million copies of more than one album worldwide (sorry, thrills) enough said. we keep exporting dross and then wonder why it all goes wrong. if we were more honest with ourselves here, we'd have a better scene. i give humanzi 18 months before yer man is back giving out in bruxelles
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    Breakfast on Pluto European Premiere in aid of UNICEF Ireland. Tickets available from UNICEF Ireland on +353 1 878 3000. Savoy, Dublin Date: 11 January 2006
    Cool, I'll be making my cinema debut then.
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    12/8/2005 5:24 PM
    someone is sure to come back and mention Van or The Thrills but i'm talking about bands (sorry van) and bands who have sold at least a million copies of more than one album worldwide (sorry, thrills) enough said. we keep exporting dross and then wonder why it all goes wrong. if we were more honest with ourselves here, we'd have a better scene. i give humanzi 18 months before yer man is back giving out in bruxelles so the only reason you're knocking humanzi is to protect the integrity of Irish music abroad? And your means of doing that is to try and stop it from gaining any confidence in the foreign market just in case the foreign market laugh at it for being, heaven forbid, awful music, because no where else in the world is there bad music being made. Pathetic. Fair play to HUmanzi and all Irish bands like them for at least getting out there. flick through MTV any time and you will see the so called 'quality' that England is producing at the moment or America. This ethos of knocking your own in order to protect the future of Irish music is intellectual masturbation. gets you nowhere.
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    12/8/2005 5:39 PM
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    thats the reason why we've exported so many s**te bands over the years. we have to apply the same criteria we apply to every band to bands from here. for years, bands have got an easy ride from (most) irish critics and writers and commentators just cos they're irish. once they go to london or new york, they soon find out that they're just not good enough. you can count the number of internationally successful irish bands on the fingers of one hand... U2 The Corrs The Cranberries someone is sure to come back and mention Van or The Thrills but i'm talking about bands (sorry van) and bands who have sold at least a million copies of more than one album worldwide (sorry, thrills) enough said. we keep exporting dross and then wonder why it all goes wrong. if we were more honest with ourselves here, we'd have a better scene. i give humanzi 18 months before yer man is back giving out in bruxelles
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    12/8/2005 11:23 PM
    What if I just don't like their music? What can I do?! I'm terrified to say anything now in case it's intellectual masturbation ;) (and I thought that was jazz!)
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    12/8/2005 11:49 PM
    ALRIGHT!!! NOW I'M LAUGHING! But I'll try to stop long enough to write this reply. I'd bet Humanzi are loving this attention! This character "Bud" made a great point in respnse to this character "Pilchard". Like, obviously yerman/woman was havin a bad day when he/she decided to rant about how Irish bands are s**t unless they've sold more than a million copies of more than one album. What are ya on about?! If you were at the level where you could judge bands on that basis, you wouldn't be posting on this or any other forum. You'd have "your people" do it for ya. And whats this about masturbation? Nobody's stopping anybody from being critical of bands. Thats what makes them better. Jesus, if you're afraid of being accused of stuff for slagging a band, then maybe the people you talk to are just idiots. MY POINT IS:...... Criticising bands is great. Being a moany eejit about Irish music is not, that'll get nobody nowhere. Thats my rant. I'm off to bed
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    12/8/2005 11:52 PM
    LORD!!!
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    12/8/2005 11:57 PM
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    Nobody's stopping anybody from being critical of bands. Thats what makes them better. Jesus, if you're afraid of being accused of stuff for slagging a band, then maybe the people you talk to are just idiots.
    I'll write "Rhetorical Question" before my rhetorical questions in future :)
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    12/8/2005 11:58 PM
    ok
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    12/9/2005 12:03 AM
    LOUD NOISES
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    12/9/2005 12:09 AM
    lol
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    12/9/2005 8:47 AM
    News flash* Giant dead squid found on M50 motorway
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    12/9/2005 9:20 AM
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    someone is sure to come back and mention Van or The Thrills but i'm talking about bands (sorry van) and bands who have sold at least a million copies of more than one album worldwide (sorry, thrills)
    Westlife, Boyzone... Music Rule #1 - Just because it sells doesn't make it good.
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    12/9/2005 5:44 PM
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    someone is sure to come back and mention Van or The Thrills but i'm talking about bands (sorry van) and bands who have sold at least a million copies of more than one album worldwide (sorry, thrills) enough said. we keep exporting dross and then wonder why it all goes wrong. if we were more honest with ourselves here, we'd have a better scene. i give humanzi 18 months before yer man is back giving out in bruxelles so the only reason you're knocking humanzi is to protect the integrity of Irish music abroad? And your means of doing that is to try and stop it from gaining any confidence in the foreign market just in case the foreign market laugh at it for being, heaven forbid, awful music, because no where else in the world is there bad music being made. Pathetic. Fair play to HUmanzi and all Irish bands like them for at least getting out there. flick through MTV any time and you will see the so called 'quality' that England is producing at the moment or America. This ethos of knocking your own in order to protect the future of Irish music is intellectual masturbation. gets you nowhere.
    bud, you need a new pair of glasses. i NEVER said anything bout "protecting the integrity of irish music abroad". there's no such thing!! irish music is largely associated with either epic arse like U2 or The Corrs or boyband arse like Westlife. I'd WELCOME success for irish acts i'd like but they are just NOT GOOD ENOUGH This applies to Humanzi right now. I have seen them twice and heard the single loads and just dont like it. That might change when the album comes along and i hope it does. But as things stand, Humanzi do not warrant all the hype and outraged defence they're getting from u. as for this line... "This ethos of knocking your own in order to protect the future of Irish music is intellectual masturbation" - are you John Waters or Fintan O'Toole in disguise? Makes no sense to me at all.
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    12/9/2005 8:07 PM
    Pilchard, you are basing your argument on the fact that "YOU" dont like them. Thats not a valid enough reason to suggest "THEY" arent good enough. How many albums did it take U2 to become the phenomenon they are? It certainly wasnt off the strength of their first. Having seen Humanzi Twice myself i must admit 1st offering i wasnt that impressed but 2nd time round they were slowly but surely turning my opinion due to their sheer togetherness and determination. If it opens the door to Irish exploitation,then,here here
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    12/10/2005 12:58 AM
    I've just finished reading and trying to understand the replies in this thread, my brain hurts....
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    12/10/2005 11:09 AM
    Their music is crap. I heard it on their website. its as simple as that.
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    12/10/2005 1:10 PM
    I'm amazed Shaun is even bothered by any abuse he gets, surely he realises it's mainly other musicians who are slagging him off. People are jealous cause they don't have a deal themselves and most people who aren't involved in music are delighted to see an Irish band do well. The same thing will happen to any band who get signed.
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    12/10/2005 1:22 PM
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    I'm amazed Shaun is even bothered by any abuse he gets, surely he realises it's mainly other musicians who are slagging him off. People are jealous cause they don't have a deal themselves and most people who aren't involved in music are delighted to see an Irish band do well. The same thing will happen to any band who get signed.
    Oh come on, people are allowed to dislike their music and voice that opinion without having an ulterior motive. I don't see why just because they're from Ireland we need to all "get behind them", if they're good then great, if they're not then I'll happily ignore them.
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    12/10/2005 1:55 PM
    I agree, but my point is that at this stage in Humanzis short career it'll be mostly the other bands who want to knock them. I'd bet all the money in the world that 80% of negitive comments about Humanzi made on websites at the moment are made by musicians or people with an association with another band. I think Shaun shouldn't waste his energy on negative comments as he will get them no matter how good his band is.
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    12/10/2005 6:00 PM
    Here Here Thomas, couldn't have put it better myself.
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    12/10/2005 7:46 PM
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    I'd bet all the money in the world that 80% of negitive comments about Humanzi made on websites at the moment are made by musicians or people with an association with another band.
    It's true, I admit it! I have an association with another band! I once bought a packet of crisps for the The Stars of Heaven drummer.
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    12/11/2005 5:02 AM
    This is a fantastic thread!! We've gone from the Sunday Tribune to a packet of crisps!! What kind of crisps were they???
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    12/11/2005 2:27 PM
    They had better have been King or Tayto; Walkers scare me with their myriad range of exotic flavours which I suspect have something to do with Britain's colonial past. But I do so love Prawn Cocktail flavour anything (depite hating real prawn cocktail).
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    12/11/2005 4:27 PM
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    What kind of crisps were they???
    Sour Cream and Onion? ;)
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    12/12/2005 9:22 AM
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    I agree, but my point is that at this stage in Humanzis short career it'll be mostly the other bands who want to knock them. I'd bet all the money in the world that 80% of negitive comments about Humanzi made on websites at the moment are made by musicians or people with an association with another band. I think Shaun shouldn't waste his energy on negative comments as he will get them no matter how good his band is.
    i can say hand on heart that i have no association whatsoever with any band or act. never purchased them a bag of crisps, never gave them change for a pack of cigs so i think i fall into that 20 percent of people who question humanzi on simple musical grounds - ie they're not very good. they do not have the substance required to back up all these high expectations that they themselves have talked up. as mr green quite rightly pointed out, it took u2 2 or 3 albums to find their feet. but that was 20 or 25 years ago - bands simply DO NOT get the same amount of time to get their s**t together now. if humanzi's debut album doesnt sell in huge quantities, the backlash kicks in. if it does sell by the million, the backlash kicks in too but at least the band can have a good laugh at it, but to have the lead singer coming out right now and blasting all and sundry (especially faceless anonymous feckers on internet forums) shows a welcome, though i must admit alarming, sense of self-importance. get over in man. stop reading stuff on the web. spend your time writing decent songs. or combing your hair
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    12/12/2005 11:32 AM
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    I agree, but my point is that at this stage in Humanzis short career it'll be mostly the other bands who want to knock them. I'd bet all the money in the world that 80% of negitive comments about Humanzi made on websites at the moment are made by musicians or people with an association with another band. I think Shaun shouldn't waste his energy on negative comments as he will get them no matter how good his band is.
    fair i can say hand on heart that i have no association whatsoever with any band or act. never purchased them a bag of crisps, never gave them change for a pack of cigs so i think i fall into that 20 percent of people who question humanzi on simple musical grounds - ie they're not very good. they do not have the substance required to back up all these high expectations that they themselves have talked up. as mr green quite rightly pointed out, it took u2 2 or 3 albums to find their feet. but that was 20 or 25 years ago - bands simply DO NOT get the same amount of time to get their s**t together now. if humanzi's debut album doesnt sell in huge quantities, the backlash kicks in. if it does sell by the million, the backlash kicks in too but at least the band can have a good laugh at it, but to have the lead singer coming out right now and blasting all and sundry (especially faceless anonymous feckers on internet forums) shows a welcome, though i must admit alarming, sense of self-importance. get over in man. stop reading stuff on the web. spend your time writing decent songs. or combing your hair
    What the f**k has his hair got to do with it ye dope!
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    12/12/2005 11:40 AM
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    Originally posted by jaypers What the f**k has his hair got to do with it ye dope!
    about as much as calling someone expressing opinions u dont agree with "a dope".
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    12/12/2005 11:42 AM
    is this a music site or fashion site?
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    12/12/2005 12:32 PM
    I love Humanzi and think their music is amazing (even if I am biased!). I don't think you can call someone paranoid when the truth is that they've had the backs ripped off them on just about every website other than this one (well, up to now anyway!). When i say ripped off..I don't mean people saying they don't like the music..everyone's entitled to their opintion and Humanzi would be as respectful of that as anyone. What I am referring to are previous instances where people that know the band in some way, such as from where they live, people they went to school with, people that know them from boozers they drink in or used to drink in, going online to make snide personal comments. I think that's really low. Also there have been comments on their personal lives, how they look etc. which have been really nasty. You can't say don't read the internet because if you're into you're music and love other Irish bands and want to know what's going on in the world...why should you have to avoid reading Irish music sites at all costs so you don't read what your neighbour really thinks about you or what you did on someone when you were 12 that they never forgot!! Humanzi believe that they are a brilliant band, like any band believes in itself. There's many who agree and some that don't, but getting below the belt and scrabbling for some clever 'Oh I knew them before they were signed and wait until you hear what i know about them' bulls**t is pathetic. Dublin can be one horrible claustrophobic village sometimes.
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    12/12/2005 1:01 PM
    hey dromed, you speak the truth and i agree with what your saying. I havent seen any of the nasty stuff your talking about on other sites but it sounds like things are getting a bit too personal, thats deffo not cool. Still, on this website i think it hasnt gotten to that stage, i hope it doesnt. Anyways, people on this website praise alot of irish bands and slag alot of irish bands, a fair balance which makes it seem like people like to share their honest opinions. I think people are entitled to their opinions good and bad. Humazni have been around now for over a year on the dublin scene anyway and have played alot of gigs. At least 3 songs/clips have been posted on their website so i do believe that people have had the chance to hear enough and be able to say whether they like them or not without being called and irish begrudger. I think its too easy to tell people they are just being jealious and begrudging a fellow irish act. I think they put on a great show, probably wouldnt rock my boat at home on my stereo but i still wish them all the luck in the world and i hope they ignore the nasty personal things said about them on websites. But, they are big boys now, and like all the other bands out there they will have to face tough critics, ie, the music buying public. I dont think the y should mention silly message boards in their interviews in future. It just sounds a bit lame to be honest.
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    12/12/2005 1:52 PM
    if looking at forum posts and msg boards in general are so insignificant why do we all do it so much? we are all losers. well done.
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    12/12/2005 2:04 PM
    Well i personaly do it to pass the time in work, dont know about you buddy.
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    12/12/2005 3:15 PM
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    Well i personaly do it to pass the time in work, dont know about you buddy.
    Round these parts, we call that a mental health scheme!!! Which I fully support.
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    12/12/2005 3:37 PM
    :-)
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    12/12/2005 4:31 PM
    You can't but think the abuse they are getting is unfair seeing as no-one here has heard the album. it is simple as that. I saw them supporting the pixies and they were the most exciting irish band i've seen. Makes a change from the dire s**te whelans turn out in the band room. As for being loyal to them. fvck that, be loyal to good bands if you must. That is why the irish music scene is a bit turgid, as people believe they must support irish bands. bring in decent bands, not irish bands. Phew, rant over. I do think he is a bit silly complaining about an internet message board. you are on tour with an album coming out, quit moaning about what strangers say about you
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    12/12/2005 6:42 PM
    Yeah, I agree with you. Humanzi are a really great Rock n' Roll band . Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I agree you would have to at least wait and hear their album in full before totally writing them off. People seem to be slating them for their appearance, past, associations or whatever. Just wait until you have heard it and if you think it's s**te fair enough I'm glad at least that they have been given a platform on which they can have decent shot at building a career in music. That is no mean feat and they should be applauded. I think they have great potential for long career exploring various musical styles They are all multi instrumentalists and very talented. So far f**ks to them, they could open doors for the rest of us...
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    12/12/2005 7:21 PM
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    So far f**ks to them, they could open doors for the rest of us...
    You mean if it doesn't work out for them? (sorry)
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    12/13/2005 5:18 AM
    All this argument has shook me out of my lethargy. I hadn't heard any Humanzi since the first time they did HWCH, but I went to their myspace account and gave them a listen. Sounds super. I wouldn't say the interview made him seem paranoid, perhaps a little thin-skinned, and you're bound to be like that in the beginning. Can't say I've seen many people slagging them off though.
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    12/13/2005 8:33 AM
    "People seem to be slating them for their appearance, past, associations or whatever. Just wait until you have heard it and if you think it's s**te fair enough"-----------NOT ON THIS F*CKING WEBSITE :-( WHy do people keep on saying "wait until you hear the album" Jeez, how many other bands get slated in this town just because of their live shows or samples on their website. Why do humanzi need special treatment. So can we not judge any band until they release an album. Humanzi have been around for long enough and i personaly have seen them play 5 times(and enjoyed every gig). Can i still not have an opinion of them until they release an album. Or, when you hear people going on about how brilliant they are, do you say, WAIT UNTIL THE ALBUM COMES OUT How many of yis have seen a tune on MTV and said "Theyre Sh*T" based on just hearing a couple of seconds of a tune. We are all guilty of that. People know what they like and it doesnt take an entire finished album to help us come to a conclusion.
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    12/13/2005 10:20 AM
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    WHy do people keep on saying "wait until you hear the album" Jeez, how many other bands get slated in this town just because of their live shows or samples on their website. Why do humanzi need special treatment. So can we not judge any band until they release an album. Humanzi have been around for long enough and i personaly have seen them play 5 times(and enjoyed every gig). Can i still not have an opinion of them until they release an album. Or, when you hear people going on about how brilliant they are, do you say, WAIT UNTIL THE ALBUM COMES OUT How many of yis have seen a tune on MTV and said "Theyre Sh*T" based on just hearing a couple of seconds of a tune. We are all guilty of that. People know what they like and it doesnt take an entire finished album to help us come to a conclusion.
    You can judge any band on any criteria you like, but you can judge them properly when you've heard an album by them. In most cases hearing a single song is enough to make a rough judgement about whether you're going bother with a band, but it doesn't really give grounds to start engraving their headstone. Likewise hearing a band live doesn't give the same perspective as repeated listens to an album. Given the standard of junk on MTV I don't think last point is valid to this argument, unless we're letting Westlife and Girls Aloud into the argument.
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    12/13/2005 10:42 AM
    well i dunno about that, the new humanzi single is on MTV alot recently :-) So how many times will i need to listen to the album before i can have an opinion. Do you give every band you hear repeated listens, i doubt it. Im sure there are a load of bands you have dismissed without giving their albums repeated listens. And i have said, i have seen them 5 times, heard 2 of their recorded songs, can i still not have an opinion, good or bad Do you refuse to have opinions on any band until you have heard their albums in the entirety after repeated listens. GIVE ME A BREAK Also, the fact that Humanzi are up for a meteor+ MTV award award allows me to believe that they are ready to have an opinion of themselves Also, since when do we have to judge a band by their album. Music is music, why isnt seeing them live enough to have an opinion. just a thought
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    12/13/2005 11:09 AM
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    well i dunno about that, the new humanzi single is on MTV alot recently :-) So how many times will i need to listen to the album before i can have an opinion. Do you give every band you hear repeated listens, i doubt it. Im sure there are a load of bands you have dismissed without giving their albums repeated listens. And i have said, i have seen them 5 times, heard 2 of their recorded songs, can i still not have an opinion, good or bad Do you refuse to have opinions on any band until you have heard their albums in the entirety after repeated listens. GIVE ME A BREAK Also, the fact that Humanzi are up for a meteor+ MTV award award allows me to believe that they are ready to have an opinion of themselves Also, since when do we have to judge a band by there album. Music is music, why isnt seeing them live enough to have an opinion. just a thought
    Don't go taking the easy way out of the argument by pretending I'm giving you orders or laying down rules for music appreciation. You know full well what I'm talking about, that it's impossible to judge a band properly from a couple of songs on a website, that live performances can vary greatly from gig to gig and that even then the listeners can tend to be quite hammered. The most concrete way to judge a band is upon listening to the album, something that any band is gaurenteed to have put a lot of time and effort into because they want to to accurately represent their sound, and then continue or discontinue listening to it depending on what it does for you. I'm not questioning your own personal judgement, I don't know you or your tastes. It is entirely possible to form opinions of a band from live shows and the odd song, everyone does. But theres a difference between opinions and informed opinions.
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    12/13/2005 12:18 PM
    You sir, have taken all the fun out of music. Good day to you :-)
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    12/13/2005 12:21 PM
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    You sir, are a sane, reasonable and good looking gentleman. I am in love with you :-)
    You're making me blush!
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    12/13/2005 12:26 PM
    ha ha, classic. Damien 1 Whome 0
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    12/13/2005 12:41 PM
    No, no we're both winners in this relationship.
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    12/13/2005 12:51 PM
    so it doesnt matter who comes first :-)
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    12/13/2005 12:55 PM
    That was very James Bond of you
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    12/13/2005 3:53 PM
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    Also, the fact that Humanzi are up for a meteor+ MTV award award allows me to believe that they are ready to have an opinion of themselves
    What the hell is that supposed to mean? They didn't nominate themselves.
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    12/13/2005 4:27 PM
    how the hell am i supposed to know what i meant by saying that. I was in the advance stages of flirting with damien ;-) I know they didnt nominate themsleves but that is the level at which they are at, they are in the public domain, ready to be criticised, Good or bad. you dont get nominated for these things without having something to show for it/ back them up. I think this "something" is what people are either slagging or praising them for.
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    12/13/2005 4:58 PM
    WhoMe have you been sipping the Xmas sherry a little early today?! You're not making any sense!
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    12/14/2005 7:46 AM
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    WhoMe have you been sipping the Xmas sherry a little early today?! You're not making any sense!
    Dont go blaming drink now, you shouldnt be supprised by how stupid i can be while stone cold sober
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    12/17/2005 4:20 PM
    now they're supporting the Foos @ the Point that's a beeg geeg
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    12/17/2005 11:44 PM
    Imagine having to watch Dave Grohl grin inanely for hours on end? This will be a big test for them, for any man.
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    12/18/2005 7:57 PM
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    now they're supporting the Foos @ the Point that's a beeg geeg
    humanzi are co-managed by brian bradley who books gigs for MCD so we can expect loads of those "supports" in the future.
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    12/18/2005 10:50 PM
    well in that case, if they f**k up, the f**k up beeeeeg.
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    12/18/2005 11:59 PM
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    well in that case, if they f**k up, the f**k up beeeeeg.
    brilliant!
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    12/19/2005 8:12 PM
    I am an old skool teletext reader. On Channel 4's Planet Sound pages (p.351 onwards) they find themselves in their top 50 singles of the year (in the 40s somewhere). Today Teletext, tomorrow, the COSMOS!!!!
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    12/20/2005 12:15 PM
    Humanzi Aftershow Party! Humanzi/The Things/Ch1/Trev Radiator Dj Sets Tonight 20/12/05 @Trashed on Tuesday Eamonn Dorans Temple bar 11.30 till late €3 beer Humanzi to support Foo Fighters Tonight@ the Point Depot, Dublin!!! www.humanzi.com www.thethings.net www.channelonesound.com


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