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Oasis: Past It Or Possible Return To Form?
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3/31/2005 12:17 PM
    With the new album due out soon enough 'Don't Believe The Truth', the media will soon swamp their pages on Oasis-related material, but the question needs to be asked whether or not Oasis can return to their blistering best? Of course, it can be argued that they never were great but let's just assume that their first two albums were their best and the debate trying to unfold here is if they can recapture that same originality or quality..... Is anyone even looking forward to their new material or are they just clinging on at this stage? Here's an mp3 of the soon to be released first single 'Lyla' - excuse all the German banter before it, but its a good track which rubs off influences from The Who: - http://download.harderfaster.org/lyla.mp3
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    3/31/2005 12:56 PM
    Oasis seem to suffer from the perennial 'The next one will be the return to form' ... then it isnt. Def Maybe, is the album of Quality, followed by Heathen Chemistry. I never 'got' what made Morning Glory so great. I saw them in Paris about 5yrs ago. An excellent gig. Witness, which I was so looking forward to, was a big let down due to a Lazy Sound Engineer. I have a ticket for Marley Park, but I wont be bracing myself for a work of genius on cd ... On a seperate note, Coldplay have announced 1 gig in Marley Park, but Interpols Tour dates have them down for 2 support slots at Marlay Park with Coldplay.
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    3/31/2005 1:12 PM
    i think heathen chemistry was one of their best. im really lookin forward to hearing the new one. when is it out do you know? i thinks its about time that oasis and ocean colour made a big comeback hope they do anyway.
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    3/31/2005 1:24 PM
    Not overally impressed with the new Ocean Colour Scene album ('A Hyperactive Workout For The Flying Squad') which is out now. Oasis album is due out 30th of May with the lead single 'Lyla' out on 16th of May.
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    3/31/2005 3:45 PM
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    Oasis seem to suffer from the perennial 'The next one will be the return to form' ... then it isnt. Def Maybe, is the album of Quality, followed by Heathen Chemistry. I never 'got' what made Morning Glory so great. I saw them in Paris about 5yrs ago. An excellent gig. Witness, which I was so looking forward to, was a big let down due to a Lazy Sound Engineer. I have a ticket for Marley Park, but I wont be bracing myself for a work of genius on cd ... On a seperate note, Coldplay have announced 1 gig in Marley Park, but Interpols Tour dates have them down for 2 support slots at Marlay Park with Coldplay.
    I am not holding my breadth as the last couple have been a bit of a letdown to say the least. Still I'd love if they suprised us with a classic album again, just to shut up all thoses musical snob nonces who think anything more melodic Radiohead is uncool. Boring bastards ! Saw em at The Point last time they were over, and like Witness it was ruined by crap sound. Saw em in paris too in 2002 at Le Zenith and they were totally amazing though.
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    3/31/2005 5:45 PM
    I've never been an Oasis fan, so to be honest I'm not familiar with their previous albums. Yet they are capable of some pretty passable tunes. I'd never expect them to be groundbreaking, but does it matter if their album brings them back into fame or not? As long as there are at least a couple good wee songs.
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    3/31/2005 7:42 PM
    I can remember going to see in Oasis in Cork in 1996 and I can count on two fingers the amount of worth while tracks they've recorded since then (F*ckin’ In The Bushes and Noel Gallagher’s guest appearance on The Chemical Brothers’ Let Forever Be). They're totally irrelevant at this stage. I've about as much interest in the new Oasis album as I have in a Shed Seven reunion. And don’t even get me started on Ocean Colour Scene…
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    4/4/2005 9:49 AM
    Past it.
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    4/4/2005 10:47 AM
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    Past it.
    i agree, whatever they had is long long gone
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    4/4/2005 11:29 AM
    i couldn't give a flying f**k. not even a f**k, minus the flying. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING
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    4/4/2005 5:35 PM
    Great pub music though...cigarettes and alchohol is a brilliant pub tune, except these days in Ireland...blah blah who cares:)..hah,
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    4/4/2005 8:30 PM
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    i couldn't give a flying f**k. not even a f**k, minus the flying. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING
    thats 2 f**ks you couldnt give, a bit harsh I reckon, I give so many f**ks that I have f**k all left, after that I'm f**ked !
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    4/12/2005 3:23 PM
    Seems to be a return to form ... first review in. http://www.the-soapbox.net/forums/uploads/post-4-1113285115.jpg
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    4/13/2005 1:06 PM
    They should have split after 'Morning Glory', then there would be a kind of mystery surrounding them, their legendary status intact. They're just a joke now. New single 'Lyla' is spectacularly unimpressive. No ideas left.
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    4/13/2005 1:57 PM
    The Sun newspaper (yeah I know, The Sun!)actually gave it a very good review... 1-Turn Up The Sun-A belting opener.Starts with some gentle guitar before exploding into the classic Oasis wall of sound. Liam sneers over big drums and chords. This should kick off the band's summer shows. Also features the first of many big psychedelic guitar breaks on the album. 8/10 2-Mucky Fingers- Over to Noel doing his best impression of Bruce Springsteen. Angry ranting vocals over a choppy monotonous riff-a completely new style for Noel. 7/10 3-Lyla-The single you've probably heard already. Rips off Street Fighting Man by the Rolling Stones but gets better with every listen. Liams voice is strong and the rhythmic trick with Lyla's name in the chorus is clever. 8/10 4-Love Like A Bomb- Raw and under-produced. With it's simple words, it sounds like a Liam penned number to me: "You turn me on, Love's like a bomb, blowing my mind." But he sings it with such conviction that it works. There's a lovely moment when the whole band launch into Beatles-style close harmonies. 7/10 5-The Importance Of Being Idle-The most experimental track on the album and quickly becoming my favourite. Starts off with a Russian type beat. Noel sings about the stresses of working when you hate your job. He tries out a surprisingly beautiful falsetto. Loads of fairground organs. 9/10 6-The Meaning Of Soul-Short, fast and menacing. A dirty, driving R'n'B track complete with mouth organ. Rips off the Rolling Stones' famous "All right now, in fact it's a gas" chorus in Jumping Jack Flash. 8/10 7-Guess God Thinks I'm Abel- A touching slow number that sounds like an ode to the relationship between Liam and Noel-unless i'm just being soft. Over a simple guitar the lyrics go: "No one can break us, no one can take us" 8/10 8-Part Of The Queue- Guess the influences! This time it's Golden Brown by The Stranglers. Starts well but doesn't really go anywhere. We've hit the more patchy part of the album. 7/10 9-Keep The Dream Alive- Lots of Geroge Harrison-style guitar on this big work out that sounds like someting from magical mystery tour. Liam sings: "I'm no stranger to this place, where real life and dreams collide." 8/10 10-A Bell Will Ring-A welcome upturn which pulls no punches. Massive intro using Noel's familiar wash of guitars. Clearly inspired by The Beatles Tomorrow Never Knows. The partner to Importance Of Being Idle. 8/10 11-Let There Be Love-Slightly disappointing and weak finish-gentle piano and acoustic guitar. But lots on interesting chord changes and a string section. More filler than thriller. 6/10
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    4/14/2005 9:35 AM
    Oasis are a poor band, with poor narrowminded influences who make lazy, lyrically banal music. i thought maybe they'd become more interesting as the new members joined, but no. saying that - 'f**king in the bushes' is great. no singing and Noel on drums. ha! they never had it, they never will, and without the hype they're useless.
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    4/15/2005 5:44 PM
    new song is catchy but they are still not good enough but they are better than the music
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    4/15/2005 6:35 PM
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    new song is catchy but they are still not good enough but they are better than the music
    That's hardly a challenge though is it?
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    4/16/2005 2:33 PM
    I caught the video for the new single on the Amp yesterday. It's complete and utter muck.
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    4/17/2005 8:53 AM
    Saw them in Cork '96. Last time I saw them was Glasto last year and I've seen them plenty of times in between. The gig at Glastonbury was the biggest pile o s**te, it was like watching someone doin a bad Stars in their Eyes. They had 2/3 good years and then it all went slowly but surely downhill after '96. They believed their own hype too much and they have now basically become a parody of themselves. Remember Liam having a go at Keith Richards a few years ago? Looks like the shoe is on the other foot. The only band that survived the "britpop" (I hate that word) era with any amount of cred and are still amazing are Supergrass. They pissed all over Oasis when they supported at Landsdowne Rd. and also at Glasto. I wouldn't pay much attention to the Sun review. That filthrag's reviews are as reliable as tesco toilet paper with the runs. The reviwer was probably suckin Noel's c*ck while he wrote it. One reason to go to Marley Park is to see KASABIAN who's debut album would piss all over any Oasis material.
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    4/17/2005 3:47 PM
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    The only band that survived the "britpop" (I hate that word) era with any amount of cred and are still amazing are Supergrass.
    What about Blur and Super Furry Animals?
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    4/17/2005 6:32 PM
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    The only band that survived the "britpop" (I hate that word) era with any amount of cred and are still amazing are Supergrass.
    What about Blur and Super Furry Animals?
    Supper Furries-Yes Supergrass - yes Blur - hmmmmm I dunno, actually no.
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    4/17/2005 7:17 PM
    anybody who say Oasis at Witnness a few years back could not possibly be excited about new material. That was one of the shoddiest gigs I've ever seen. I think Oasis have a lot in common with Robbie Williams, in that the people who go to the gigs do so to engage in a giant kareoke session, rather than to appreciate live music, which is meant to be spontaneous.
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    4/17/2005 7:19 PM
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    new song is catchy but they are still not good enough but they are better than the music
    catchy? catchy like gonorrhea.
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    4/17/2005 7:21 PM
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    new song is catchy but they are still not good enough but they are better than the music
    catchy? catchy like gonorrhea.
    not much different to saying 'they are crap' is it Una ? eh ?
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    4/17/2005 7:50 PM
    yes, but at least it's vaguely witty. Right back atcha ;)
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    4/17/2005 8:32 PM
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    The only band that survived the "britpop" (I hate that word) era with any amount of cred and are still amazing are Supergrass.
    What about Blur and Super Furry Animals?
    Supper Furries-Yes Supergrass - yes Blur - hmmmmm I dunno, actually no.
    Are Pulp still together? I recently started listening to their stuff again and it has aged really well.
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    4/17/2005 9:15 PM
    no, but they should be. 'The First Time' is one of the best songs. Ever.
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    4/17/2005 9:20 PM
    The one band I miss from the mid-nineties is The Verve. Pity they split.
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    4/18/2005 12:49 AM
    I used to love Pulp, I still love Pulp, I would implore you all again to check out sometime Pulp guitarists Richard Hawley's solo stuff, his new website is at ...www.richardhawley.co.uk great free downloads in the downlaod section.
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    4/26/2005 8:22 PM
    Belatedly heard the new single for the first time today. Embarrassingly awful. They really have lost it completely. Amazingly, Marlay Park is sold out. Whatever next.
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    4/26/2005 9:18 PM
    The video has completely thrown me off the song. On first few listens it sounded good but don't like it at all now.
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    4/27/2005 9:06 AM
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    Originally posted by nesta [br The only band that survived the "britpop" (I hate that word) era with any amount of cred and are still amazing are Supergrass. They pissed all over Oasis when they supported at Landsdowne Rd. and also at Glasto.
    i think the only act who came out the other side of the "Britpop" fandango intact were Blur and they did so by walking as far away from it as u could possibly get. in terms of smart, sussed, forward-thinking music, damon albarn has been the most surprising person of all to be associated with that kind of thing. if anyone had told me when he was jerking around in the "Country House" video that the same man would produce albums like Mali Music, Gorillaz and "Think Tank", i'd have laughed out loud. now, i can't wait to hear new Blur stuff and i hear that the new Gorillaz album is amazing. Oasis? More of the same. No thanks! music should go forward not backwards
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    4/29/2005 10:40 AM
    I heard park life for the first time the other day and i have to say. Bar one or two tunes it's a complete pile of s**te. And f**k all this s**t about music moving forward. Good music is good music. Lyla is ok, could be better. But i have heard the other stuff off the album and it's top drawer. I'm sick of the whole "if it's popular i hate it and i'm gonna slam it attitude" from people. It's hardly bleedin westlife. It's a good tune, could be better, but good none the less.
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    4/29/2005 11:03 AM
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    I'm sick of the whole "if it's popular i hate it and i'm gonna slam it attitude" from people. It's hardly bleedin westlife. It's a good tune, could be better, but good none the less.
    u better check yourself there stone. i dont think anyone is slamming Oasis because theyre popular - theyre slamming them because the band are making tired, unexciting, bland, overwrought, boring, plodding, pedestrian (need more words) music when they were once capable of so much more. its not a case that we hate our friends when they become famous but we hate our friends when they become boring cliches and start to repeat themselves and no, it's hardly "bleedin'" westlife. u're right there, i'll give u that.
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    4/29/2005 2:22 PM
    yeah but it seems Oasis bashing has become "cool" and everyone is jumpin on the band wagon. Going on the trend of things even if they released another definitely maybe or what's the story or something of that calibre people would still say it's s**te just coz it's oasis.
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    4/29/2005 4:22 PM
    Never had it
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    4/29/2005 6:19 PM
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    yeah but it seems Oasis bashing has become "cool" and everyone is jumpin on the band wagon. Going on the trend of things even if they released another definitely maybe or what's the story or something of that calibre people would still say it's s**te just coz it's oasis.
    very true, on the other hand some people around here would have you believe that you must have a degree, be PC and be friends of the earth etc. to be likeable. If I want to watch an intelligent quiz on TV I'll sit down and watch University Challenge, if thats the sort of thing I like, and If I want to listen to good rock music I'll stick on Oasis or whatever. Rock music has never been Pc and never should become such. So what if Oasis aint brain boxes, its even more impressive in my opinion that they managed to achieve what they did considering they background which they came from. That was all part of their appeal, it was almost a throwback to the punk DIY ethic. It also goes for many acts in Rock N Roll throught the years. I don't hear many people on here complaining about the Sex Pistols being thinck or whatever the useless argument was. Its Rock n Roll people !
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    4/30/2005 10:38 AM
    the sex pistols were revolutionary and their soungs sound as amaying as ever. Lets see if Oasis live that test of time
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    5/5/2005 1:09 PM
    Just heard the new oasis album and it's a cracker. Lyla is nothin to go by. It's different, and fresh. I'd say a return to form.
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    5/5/2005 3:08 PM
    I heard Lyla and saw the video for the first time at the start of the week. It's a flatline of a song. Nothing really against Oasis, liked the first 2 albums at the time, nearly everything since has bored the arse off me. Lyla is such a one speed, plodding song with a half assed chorus and a one note guitar solo. Most of my favourite bands or artists at least try to vary their work, try to mix it up a bit and surprise people while retaining their identity. That's what keeps me coming back to people like Beck and Super Furry Animals. How Oasis' fans haven't become bored after 6 albums of the same kinda stuff, I'll never know.
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    5/5/2005 3:58 PM
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    I heard Lyla and saw the video for the first time at the start of the week. It's a flatline of a song. Nothing really against Oasis, liked the first 2 albums at the time, nearly everything since has bored the arse off me. Lyla is such a one speed, plodding song with a half assed chorus and a one note guitar solo. Most of my favourite bands or artists at least try to vary their work, try to mix it up a bit and surprise people while retaining their identity. That's what keeps me coming back to people like Beck and Super Furry Animals. How Oasis' fans haven't become bored after 6 albums of the same kinda stuff, I'll never know.
    couldn't agree more


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