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dope fiend

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2/3/2005 2:19 PM
why are they so s**te that they might me want to cut off my ears. and the new athlete stuff frightens me with its blandness please i need help

bonzo

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2/3/2005 2:26 PM
I think Keane are a quality term. Good album - nothing much to it. Nice songs.

elle

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2/3/2005 2:41 PM
that's the thing about keane though. . . they're NICE. I mean nice = boring, just coz its easy on the ears doesn't make it interesting or even good.

Karlito

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2/3/2005 2:45 PM
Agree with Elle there, it's nice, but it's boring and belongs in Starbucks

Mully

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2/3/2005 2:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by elle that's the thing about keane though. . . they're NICE. Weren't so nice in the Tunnel the other night ! http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Un-edited%20Tunnel

dope fiend

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2/3/2005 3:24 PM
whats nice about it karl you know my views on this subject

dope fiend

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2/3/2005 3:25 PM
nice term what does that mean? so instead of saying that was a nice sandwhich you should say that was a keane sandwhich. they are s**te it is fair of me to say this

mick

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2/3/2005 3:28 PM
so so so bland

dope fiend

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2/3/2005 3:42 PM
id like to see them on one those kids shows were they get st thrown over them and then take them outside for a good hiding administired by the kids and then the singer would be crying and admit that he is a ct. the stuff of dreams

bonzo

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2/3/2005 3:47 PM
Didn't realise they were hated so much. Wouldn't call them bland. They do need to get a guitarist though.

Karlito

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2/3/2005 3:51 PM
Well nice is a term that can be used for MOR bands really isn't, I mean Keane, nothing special, a bit alike a Ham and Cheese sandwich if you want - it's nice but you'd much prefer a breakfast roll yes??

karlvin

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2/3/2005 3:52 PM
At the risk of getting flamed, I think Keane are quite good , bland , perhaps , boring , depending on your musical taste what's good about them... - Singers got a great voice (regardless of musical taste). - Different approach , no guitarist or bass player, - Doing well in the charts and actually writing their own music , as opposed to the sh*e that usually dominates it. - Catchy hooks , that's what a lot of good songwriting is about , doesn't matter how different / interesting / wierd you are if you can't remember the songs 20 mins after you heard them. - not bad for a debut album (I think?) anyway , not a huge fan of keane or anything just hate seeing people bashing stuff that because its not out on the fringe . There are so many bands/musicians that are lauded over by musical critics / press and their stuff is just climb up yer own ase , lets be different for the sake of it and feck the idea that a song should be memorable. my 0.02 euro

dope fiend

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2/3/2005 3:53 PM
they are orwellian in their blandness the ministry of sound has released them to give the proles some sickly melodies to hum along with to be lulled and then bang.

dope fiend

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2/3/2005 4:04 PM
what? im singin some jim orourke to meself and its damn catchy. not people bashing band bashing this is thier art they have framed it and put it on the wall . i want to throw stones at it and see kids bash them .

roseanne barrs armpit

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2/3/2005 5:12 PM
although familiar i am not with their sound of music, im sure they are a whole new level of crap. i just reckon fromm the name and all being so bland as to make cracker seem exciting. i am not familiar with their music but i do know its s**te. a friend told me

mutch

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2/3/2005 5:30 PM
i like em cos they're different and they seem to be causing much more upset here than some bands who have tried to get people upset have (the darkness writing a song about public lice didnt really get headlines!) imagine, these days cradle of filth and marlyn manson(both DREADFUL bands aside from mansnos early stuff before he became a visual artist and overall big eejit) actually cause less upset than a figgin gilry suonding pack of public school boys! whats the world coming to!

Carlsberg

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2/4/2005 6:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by roseanne barrs armpit i am not familiar with their music but i do know its s**te. a friend told me Surely you cant even get into the debate if you have not listened to the music. "I never heard them but they are crap" is effectively what your saying!!?? Amazing. Fact remain's is that Keane have sold records by the truck load & that over one million people bought them, it kind of puts the word "crap" into the minority opinion.

Rev Jules

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2/5/2005 11:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Carlsberg ...Fact remain's is that Keane have sold records by the truck load & that over one million people bought them, it kind of puts the word "crap" into the minority opinion. So the fact that Vincent Van Gogh never sold a painting in his lifetime would then make him crap in your esteemed opinion ? Since Keane have sold 'millions of records' (the Louis Walsh Waiver) that makes them good does it ? Daniel O'Donnell has also sold millions of records, do you like him as well ?

flipperstired

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2/5/2005 3:36 PM
Ah Rev you cant even go there man thats way off line with regards to this debate & am surprised you even went there! Firstly, VVG paintings dont cost 19:99 to buy or come discounted in Tesco with a chart price of 14:99, secondly, VVG produced over 750 oil paintings excluding drawings and though not confirmed, people say he sold ONE painting, the rest were traded, Keane will make maybe 4 albums in their career. The fact that a VVG work of art sold for over 80 million suggets to me that he is good, desired, appreciated & that was never in doubt. I would also agree however that selling over a million records suggests popular opinion rests with the band in question, particulary when the act in question is an Indie Act. I like Keane, nothing particularly original at all but I like them. Next!?

flipperstired

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2/5/2005 3:37 PM
and with regard to daniel o'donnell.... more power to the man if he sells records to Hor*y housewives!! Thats genius!

dope fiend

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2/5/2005 4:45 PM
so if somebody sells lots of records that means they must be good. wahey britney is our leader britney is our leader na na na na hey na na na na hey. have seen july in the daniel odonnell calender steamy stuff.

Rev Jules

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2/5/2005 6:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by flipperstired Ah Rev you cant even go there man thats way off line with regards to this debate & am surprised you even went there! Firstly, VVG paintings dont cost 19:99 to buy or come discounted in Tesco with a chart price of 14:99, secondly, VVG produced over 750 oil paintings excluding drawings and though not confirmed, people say he sold ONE painting, the rest were traded, Keane will make maybe 4 albums in their career. The fact that a VVG work of art sold for over 80 million suggets to me that he is good, desired, appreciated & that was never in doubt. I would also agree however that selling over a million records suggests popular opinion rests with the band in question, particulary when the act in question is an Indie Act. I like Keane, nothing particularly original at all but I like them. Next!? Ok then, this is my point in a condensed manner. It doesn't matter how many or how few records any artist sells in my opinion. Commerical success (or lack thereof) does not have any relevance to the intrinsic quality of music. Blind Willie Johnson sold nowt Eric Clapton has platinum discs on his wall If you Keane etc great, if not ditto. So what. Next !

stroller

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2/5/2005 7:01 PM
Keane, Coldplay, Norah Jones, Travis, Athlete, The Stereophonics, The Thrills, Embrace, Bic Runga, Paddy Casey, The Frames, David Gray, Starsailor, Damian Rice, Ocean Colour Scene, Dido, Turin Brakes, The Manic Street Preachers, Oasis, Jamie Cullum, Richard Ashcroft, Katie Melua..... Can anyone tell what's the difference between any of these bland, inoffensive, lifeless, MOR, musically redundant c*nts?

flipperstired

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2/8/2005 10:18 AM
How could someone put the likes of Jamie Cullum in with the likes of the Manic Street Preachers?!!?!? and then ask for someone to tell the difference... surely thats obvious apart from the fact that stroller has a true sense of love for all the above mentioned "c*nts"!!!

mutch

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2/8/2005 11:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by stroller Keane, ...bland, inoffensive, lifeless, MOR, musically redundant c*nts? for me its about perspective. i agree with you on most of those bands though, however i have to pull you up on the MSP simply for the Holy Bible being one of my favorite recordings ever. judging by the posts, I could guess that we're all fans of bands that have acheived something great without commercial success.

bonzo

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2/8/2005 11:55 AM
Well said Mutch. We all have different opinions - shock horror. I like some pop music that is very commercially successful. Is that allowed?

Rev Jules

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2/8/2005 12:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by mutch ... i have to pull you up on the MSP simply for the Holy Bible being one of my favorite recordings ever. There is an argument to bemade here that the MSP who made Holy Bible were actually a different band than the MSP who made This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours

kierry

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2/8/2005 12:16 PM
Keane, - write nice songs, not too adventurous, have a slightly different setup to normal. Coldplay, - write nice songs, kinda adventurous, veer slightly towards MOR but try Norah Jones, -writes lovely soulful songs, not adventurous Travis, -write nice songs but don't really deviate from their style Athlete, -write nice songs, try to be experimental, have become blander The Stereophonics, -boring The Thrills, -write nice songs, boring Embrace, -boring Bic Runga, -writes lovely soulful songs Paddy Casey, -writes nice songs, boring The Frames, -write nice songs, adventurous, boring David Gray, -writes nice songs, not adventurous Starsailor, -boring Damian Rice, -writes nice songs, not very adventurous Ocean Colour Scene, -boring Dido, adventurous, boring Turin Brakes, -boring The Manic Street Preachers, used to be adventurous, now boring Oasis, -boring, not adventurous Jamie Cullum, -writes boring songs, boring Richard Ashcroft, -boring Katie Melua, -kinda boring, not sure.

mutch

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2/8/2005 12:25 PM
As regard MSP, Good call Rev. Know your enemy was the closest after that. whats funny about pop is that super furry animals consider themselves pop, they try to make pop records (well thats a quote I read a few years back) yet to most people its rock or whatever. a quote I use to justify myself liking some blatantly sales orientated pop was when Mike Patton was asked about how he could work with people as diverse as bjork to dave lombardo from slayer (among a few hundred more I'd imagine) he simply replied "I love music, why limit yourself?" think I've posted that before, it often comes to my mind. like the voices! ;)

stroller

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2/8/2005 1:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by flipperstired How could someone put the likes of Jamie Cullum in with the likes of the Manic Street Preachers?!!?!? and then ask for someone to tell the difference... surely thats obvious apart from the fact that stroller has a true sense of love for all the above mentioned "cnts"!!! So I insult them because I love them? Tell me, when you were in senior infants were you one of those kids who used throw stones at all the girls you fancied in the playground? The Manics are being compared to Jamie Cullum because neither of them have released anything other than bland, boring MOR shte in the last five years. You're only as good as your last album and no band can go around living off past glories when the man who was responsible for them disappeared ten years ago. For the record I was a big Manics fan back in the day and I still have about five of their albums. I think Motorcycle emptiness is a classic, I really like parts of Gold Against The Soul and I recognise that The Holy Bible is the best thing they ever did. I even have fond memories of Everything Must Go. But over the past decade they've just mutated into the Lighthouse Family with Guitars. They're the kind of band that your 30-something accountant uncle would listen to in his car when he's driving out to the golf club on a Sunday. It all went down hill when they started doing Wham covers...

bonzo

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2/8/2005 1:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by kierry Keane, - write nice songs, not too adventurous, have a slightly different setup to normal. Coldplay, - write nice songs, kinda adventurous, veer slightly towards MOR but try Norah Jones, -writes lovely soulful songs, not adventurous Travis, -write nice songs but don't really deviate from their style Athlete, -write nice songs, try to be experimental, have become blander The Stereophonics, -boring The Thrills, -write nice songs, boring Embrace, -boring Bic Runga, -writes lovely soulful songs Paddy Casey, -writes nice songs, boring The Frames, -write nice songs, adventurous, boring David Gray, -writes nice songs, not adventurous Starsailor, -boring Damian Rice, -writes nice songs, not very adventurous Ocean Colour Scene, -boring Dido, adventurous, boring Turin Brakes, -boring The Manic Street Preachers, used to be adventurous, now boring Oasis, -boring, not adventurous Jamie Cullum, -writes boring songs, boring Richard Ashcroft, -boring Katie Melua, -kinda boring, not sure. We could talk about this for 100 years. Everyone has different opinions, One person's Jamie Cullum is another persons Bic Runga. Can we stop talking about it?

Vent My Spleen

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2/8/2005 1:44 PM
I fully expect to see MSP latest offerings on the next 5 CD 'Driving Anthems' set. That said, MOR sells. Didn't David Gray sell something like a million copies of White Ladder here? That means that 1 every 4 of you have a copy. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE! Hang your heads in shame.

Bez Light year

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2/8/2005 4:11 PM
The manics had thier day but you get the impression now that they are floging a dead horse. But i wouldnt compare them to keane, at least the manics had something to say for themselves.

flipperstired

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2/8/2005 4:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by stroller quote: Originally posted by flipperstired How could someone put the likes of Jamie Cullum in with the likes of the Manic Street Preachers?!!?!? and then ask for someone to tell the difference... surely thats obvious apart from the fact that stroller has a true sense of love for all the above mentioned "cnts"!!! So I insult them because I love them? Tell me, when you were in senior infants were you one of those kids who used throw stones at all the girls you fancied in the playground? The Manics are being compared to Jamie Cullum because neither of them have released anything other than bland, boring MOR shte in the last five years. You're only as good as your last album and no band can go around living off past glories when the man who was responsible for them disappeared ten years ago. For the record I was a big Manics fan back in the day and I still have about five of their albums. I think Motorcycle emptiness is a classic, I really like parts of Gold Against The Soul and I recognise that The Holy Bible is the best thing they ever did. I even have fond memories of Everything Must Go. But over the past decade they've just mutated into the Lighthouse Family with Guitars. They're the kind of band that your 30-something accountant uncle would listen to in his car when he's driving out to the golf club on a Sunday. It all went down hill when they started doing Wham covers... eeerm... eh.... regarding first sentence... I was being sarcastic.

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