i know its dreadful!!!!Did u hear the latest though, he's off being a media whore, bombarding the usual rags with scandal about how he was beaten by the christian brothers and that's what inspired the song! My opinion-they didn't hit him hard enough!

One wonders why Ireland did so crap in the Euro Song contest

He is down for a gig in whelans now as well...( reeking of music snobbery ,i know )

oh sweet jebus i haven't cringed this much in a long time.

the lyrics might shed some light on why he broke up with what's-her-face. that's the tabloid scandal i want. "and now i don't believe that you burn in hell for being a cock smuggler anymore/so i can split up with my wife" i'm sure those lyrics would fit somewhere. it's terrible all right. he's trying to be profound, it'd be better if it was complete gibberish. a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

this is heavy stuff if he is a victim (is he?) of what 1 in 4 in the country have been through. and even though the art of it is poor, he is still getting something off his chest so fair dues to him. BUT, if he is not a victim then may he hang his head in shame and contribute all proceeds to a relevant charity either way it reeks of money/pulicity stunt and now i really want to kill the company people that put him there. idiots. coke is soooo bad for you lads.

I read what Ian O'Doherty (who is a w**ker too but thats besides the point) wrote about his appearence on the late late and he made it sound that McFadden got slapped about 3-4 times in school, don't know if thats an accurate description of what he said or just O'Doherty playing to his professional-asshole "persona" but it its true then I'll happily give him another 34 slaps for using one of the most disgusting things to happen in 20th century Ireland as a publicity stunt.

Yeah, Christian brothers schools in the mid eighties were rough places to be. If you didn't finish your kiora orange you would'nt get your gold star - now thats not real to me.

I'm so ashamed and disappointed to be irish right now...

I dont want to answer for anyone, but I share Optimuses feeling of shame. Maybe because this man who seems to be mainly concerned with his appearance and the record buying publics perception of him thinks that he can hi jack a terrible torment systematically inflicted upon thouseands of people (mostly poor people it must be added, illigitimate, orphans etc.)and use it to make money? theres a few other good reasons that come to mind but this is a music discussion board so i'll limit my rant to venting my personal disgust at this particular act of greed and stupidity.

I'm disgusted at the way that things have come to be. I mean whats become of subtlety. Or talent. I have my own problems with catholicism and how enforced upon me it was when I lived in dublin, but I have better ways of venting it than playing the bleeding heart to thousands of idiots who'll respond in kind. People have been reduced to, on an insulting level, zombies, because in essence, it has been allowed to be so. We now have easily digestible, cant mean anything else type songs being released without second thought. Where's the ambiguity and the artisitc flair that allows songs like led zepp's "No Quarter" or GNR's "Estranged" to be left open to interpetration that the average person with more than one brain cell can interpret however they feel. This kind of CRAP diminishes the all round level of music to a sub-par level. Which in my opinion is bad news for the country that has produced nothing but essentially good to excellent acts, pre-1990's. The everyman is not poetic. The everyman acts with only what he carries with him as his weapon. The one's who matter are the genuinely affected people, or at least people who are smart. Play from your god damned heart. Not Brian Mc-f**kING-Fadden. I mean, sweet jesus. Ireland birthed U2, Thin Lizzy, Therapy, Kerbdog, the Mexican Pets, Skindive. And crap like McFadden is big? My heart weeps... Sorry...I know most of this meanders and such but this kinda stuff just cant be tolerated. And I assume most of you people arent idiots so I hope what I've said makes sense. Rant over. On with the show.

check this out .............. Belfast Telegraph Home > Lifestyle > Music Brian McFadden: please go away... By Ian O'Doherty 17 November 2004 Following his nauseating appearance on the Late Late Show, when he desperately tried to convince a sceptical nation that we should all have sympathy for him, Brian McFadden simply refuses to leave us alone. As greedy for publicity as his appalling ex-wife, McFadden has now turned his attention-seeking radar in the direction of the Church which, he claims, is responsible for abusing him. Obviously there's an angle here and with the release next week of his single Irish Son, McFadden has been quick to hop on the abuse bandwagon. McFadden is adamant that he was hit in school, saying "I did personally suffer physical abuse" and that he "suffered the back of their hand three or four times". Maybe we live in an era of compassion fatigue, but since when did feeling the back of a teacher's hand qualify as physical abuse? McFadden, who once seemed to be the most unaffected of the Westlife boys, has plans to open a cheap recording studio and bizarrely says: "There are so many artists like Patrick Casey and Damian Rice who nobody pays attention to." Really? Would McFadden actually be referring to Paddy Casey, who is managed by Paul McGuinness, and Damien Rice, whose album O is one of the best-selling Irish albums in years? McFadden's next song, he says, is called Demons, which is "about a dream I have where no one recognises me". Give it a few months, Brian, give it a few months. Source: Irish Independent

Ok guys, I am proud to unveil the first annual Brian McFadden Victimhood Song Contest. The rules of the contest are simple. 1) Dream up a form of victimisation which Brian might claim he has suffered. 2) Give the song a title. 3) Give an indication of a sample lyric. The prize: 100 copies of Brian's debut album which you can ceremonially burn in your back garden.

That is legendary. Excuse me for this question but didnt teachers hitting students stop in the 80's? Which is when Mcf**ker went to school? He has no life experience that relates to his songs. I'm so angry....*shirt & pants rip open to reveal a naked me* Oh yeah..I'm not the Hulk. DAMMIT!

Ooooh Oooooh...Me first me first... "I'm a w**ker(with no friends)" By Brian Mcf**king f**ker Mother f**ker!!! "Verse 1 I was born in the heart of Dublin Back when being gay wasn't cool I guess I'm trying to tell you something But I dont know cos I'm a fool We were warped by the Christian Brothers In the cell blocks at our schools But I wouldnt know anything about that Because I'm just a bloody tool Pre Chorus 1 Go hit me now No wait I was kidding Not the face not the face Why doesnt anyone love me? Chorus 1 This is the city that raised me With the same religion as you Now I'm old enough to know my own mind Or do I cos I've been told what to do I seen so much that has changed me Why does life have to move on With Westlife I was big in the 90's No one likes this Irish Son... Verse 2 Weddings deaths or baptizing children My lyrics suffer from bad taste I'm trying to represent myself So that you'll understand my pain Chorus 2 This is the city that raised me With the same religion as you Now I'm old enough to know my own mind Or do I cos I've been told what to do I seen so much that has changed me Why does life have to move on With Westlife I was big in the 90's No one likes this Irish Son... Middle 8th Our father who art in heaven How come I've never had a friend? I've paid people and gotten married But no one wants to stick around Is this all a sign of the times? Or am I really on my own? Chorus 3 This is the city that raised me With the same religion as you Now I'm old enough to know my own mind Or do I cos I've been told what to do I seen so much that has changed me Why does life have to move on With Westlife I was big in the 90's No one likes this Irish Son..." Oh my God that felt good. *lights a cigarette* How was it for you?

Potato, why did you hate me? By Brian mcfecken Oh, the cold ran through me Like a knife, a cold blade My feet worn through me So much they began to … fade Chorus With no big macs, no spar We ran so very far Because the food is was damin The son of an irish famine verse 2 Hail Mary full of grace Send us some potatoes don't fade my beautiful face Etc etc

far better than mine... I'm hiding my laughter as best I can as it is not appropriate in the workplace...

A bit of internet-based research reveals that this McFadden fella was born on 04/12/80. Which means he hit (no pun intended) secondary school in Sept 1993 at the earliest, but more likely in Sept 1994. Now, having undergone an Irish secondary education in the second half of 1980s myself, I remember that earlier period as one when corporal punishment was very much frowned upon in Oireland. The really rough stuff was going on well before then and started to drop off the classroom radar around the early 80s (I for one remember in primary school in the late 1970s getting walloped on the arse by a teacher with one of those plastic metre long sticks for some forgettable crime against 5 or 6 year old humanity, but I can recall nothing of consequence that happened after that – be it to me or to mates). Anyway, by the early nineties corporal punishment was just not tolerated in Irish society (although there were no doubt (and continue to be) a few exceptions standing at the top of class rooms around the country). What I'm driving at is that if McFadden was abused in school in the mid-nineties, yeah he can write a song about it but surely the socially responsible thing to do would be to name and shame whoever abused him (hey, they may still teaching kids today) or at the very least report them to the appropriate authorities. This would be a more constructive, responsible and credible approach to the whole question, than deciding to go public on chat shows with this just as your new single inspired by the trauma is released. Yours in pious self-righteousness. eoghan

'hands across the barricades' by brian mcfarten: I grew up in dublin only 100 miles from belfast so I too was scarred by our violent sectarian past now we have no fighting and it's really bad because now I can't sing my self-important song about peace that I wrote having watched 1 minute of sky news about 6 months ago and sat in a corporate box at the last celtic-rangers game.... CHORUS: let's start all the bombing and killing again so that I can act like bono and sing about my pain

Brian (Bryan???) McFaggott = MUPPETT The End.

sean, no need to use that kind of abuse.

Yeah man... Dont insult muppets!!!

great stuff. who wrote the potato one again? feck'n' deadly. ...we should put together a cluas charity single for christmas.....man o man. any titles?

Yep...."Brian McFadden Is Un-Bear-Able"... And off we go again...

Check out this article in the belfast telegraph om mcfadden. excellent stuff... i love the "patrick casey" reference http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/music/story.jsp?story=583766 As for the abuse in school. Just because it was illegal doesnt mean it didnt happen. I went to secondary school in the late 80's early 90's and it was common enough to see someone get a slap from a teacher. I remember those metre sticks and their secondary use.

Check out what elton john makes of McFaddens new song http://breakingnews.ie/2004/11/19/story176611.html

Hilarious! I share your feelings Elton.

sweet divine!!!The git has the same birthday as me!Fingers crossed I'll bump into him in Lillies on the big night, what a great way to start my 24th year

this coming from a complete tosser who only ever sings other people's (mainly bernie taupins s**t)lyrics - the likes of this! PAIN Music by Elton John Lyrics by Bernie Taupin Available on the (elton john) album Made In England What's your name, my name is Pain Where do you live, I live anyplace Where were you born, in the state of fear How old are you, nineteen hundred and ninety four years What's your plan, my plan is pain When will you leave, I'll never go away How will you breathe, you'll give me life How will you see, sitting in the temple right between your eyes My name is Pain, you belong to me You're all I wanted, I'm all you'll ever be From the beginning in a world without end I am the air, I am Pain Pain is love, Pain is pure Pain is sickness, Pain is the cure Pain is death, Pain is religion Pain is life, Pain is television Pain walks, Pain crawls Pain is peace, Pain is war Where were you born, in the state of fear How old are you, nineteen hundred and ninety four years My name is Pain, you belong to me You're all I ever wanted, I'm all you'll ever be From the beginning in a world without end I am the air, I am Pain --------------------------------------------------------- ugh. but my favourite line has got to be the 'television' one!...

that is fairly s**te alright!

That's just brilliant i love it!

He has got the song writing ability of a 5 year old!

More fuel to the fire. Hope you burn, Brian... School 'outraged' McFadden song linked it to corporal punishment Alison Healy (IRISH TIMES 23.11) The principal of St Fintan's High School in Sutton, Co Dublin, said yesterday the school was "outraged" at a video by the singer, Brian McFadden, that misleadingly linked the school with corporal punishment. The singer's music label, Sony BMG, said the reference to the school was unintentional. When it was brought to its attention, the video was removed from television stations and a new version is being issued. The song in question, Irish Son, speaks about "being born in the heart of Dublin/ back when being gay wasn't cool". The lyrics include the following: "Made get on our knees every Sunday with the other fools/we were warped by the Christian Brothers/in the cell blocks at our schools/get a handprint on your skin/before your break their rules". In the video, McFadden plays the part of a taxi driver taking a boy to school. He drops the boy at a school with a sign for "St Fintan's School for Boys". The only St Fintan's school in Dublin which is run by the Christian Brothers is St Fintan's High School in Sutton. However, the singer was not a pupil there and never had any connection with the school. The building shown in the video is not St Fintan's High School. Yesterday the school's principal, Mr d**k Fogarty, said it was "unacceptable" that the video linked the school with corporal punishment. Pupils at the school had seen the video on a music channel and told the teachers about it, he said. "We certainly were alarmed, especially when we saw the lyrics of the song," he said. The entire community was outraged, Mr Fogarty added, as the school was such an integral part of the community. "Pupils are being slagged, to use their own term, by pupils from other schools," he said. "Not only the teachers, but the pupils themselves are outraged at this." He said the record label had said it believed the school name was fictitious yet McFadden lived in Portmarnock, less than three miles from the school. If it was an unfortunate coincidence, then it was a very careless mistake to make, the principal said. The school had worked hard to build its reputation and was one of the top schools in north Dublin, Mr Fogarty said, but now the video had been linked in the public mind with St Fintan's. He called on McFadden or his record label to apologise for the damage done to the school. "They have apologised for the confusion caused," he said, "but that's not enough. This is unacceptable." Yesterday the singer's spokesman, Mr Max Clifford, was issuing no apologies when he spoke to RTÉ's News At One. He claimed the school had brought the issue into the public domain themselves. "They are the only people that are drawing attention to the school. Nobody else has," he said. "Obviously he didn't go to that school and presumably everybody knows he didn't go to that school if that's the case. So, therefore, they wouldn't think it could have happened there because he didn't go there," Mr Clifford said. McFadden's song is proving controversial for more than one reason. The singer, Elton John, has slated it in the latest edition of Time Out magazine. "Brian is probably a nice man," Elton John writes, "but I nearly died when I listened to Irish Son. I absolutely hated it. It's the worst lyric on a record I've ever heard. I had to take it off in case I committed suicide. It's just horrible."