Best Upcoming Band
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19 Jul 2004 07:58 AM
    Just thought I'd see who other people regard as the best upcoming band. There are a few floating about who deserve a shout, like The Things. But are there others who people think will make a big impact. Another few might be The Urges, Dead 60s, Acidtone, Mighty Stef, Guggenheim Grotto.
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    19 Jul 2004 08:21 AM
    Im listening to some Guggenheim Grotto at the moment and it aint bad. A bit too close to ricer at times though. But good all the same. One of my own personal favourites would be Fairuza. Kind of placebo-ish. Quality live performance. I really enjoyed rulers of the planet at oxegen. I missed the urges but ive seen them before and was impressed
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    19 Jul 2004 08:22 AM
    Extraordinary. I've been out of the country two months, and with the exception of The Things, I don't recognise any of the bands on the 'best upcoming band' list. Just goes to show the staying-power of the Dublin music 'scene' in my book. What happened, by the way, to Listo, The 'Mouse' and all the other assorted nonces who were crowding this forum persisently shouting how wonderful they were? They got jobs working for mobile phone companies, one supposes.
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    19 Jul 2004 08:26 AM
    I forgot to mention Neosupervital and Gary Dunne. Both quality acts as well. Yeah, where have listo gone...
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    19 Jul 2004 08:31 AM
    Going to see Neosupervital live for the first time later this month, he's supporting Senor Coconut in the Opera House Blue Room in Cork. At the very least, it should be an interesting gig.
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    19 Jul 2004 08:38 AM
    Listo broke up ages ago and have morphed into Humanzie, a killer band if you like the Rapture crossed with Radio4...as for the comments on mobile phones...yeah that's very witty, must have taken all day to think that one up. Vandala while you've been out of the country for two months you may have missed what's been going on but you haven't managed to let go off the persistent bitterness that also frequents this board...'assorted nonces'...where is that coming from??? let it go....let it go...
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    19 Jul 2004 08:41 AM
    Neosupervital is well worth checkin out, he's deadly! This week I'll be mostly watching Andalusia, One Hundred Bullets and Grum.
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    19 Jul 2004 08:45 AM
    Do the Guggenheim Grotto have an Ep? Are The Chapters as good as everybody claims they are? Any other impressive acts? Jenny Lindfors, Mike Got Spiked, Beautiful Losers, Ciara Allen are all decent.
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    19 Jul 2004 09:22 AM
    'Tis nothing to do with bitterness, Dromed. I'm all for seeing bands becoming successful, or even just making a go of things. The point I was trying to make is it seems that so few actually do. It appears that every few months there's a rake of 'exciting new Dublin bands' on the scene, and within a year most of them disappear into the ether, having played a few triumphant gigs in Whelans, and maybe even put out a self-released CD which gets three stars in the Ticket from Tony Clayton Lea. 'Nonces' was indeed a flippant remark, but other than that, the point should be taken as read. The whole Damien Rice/Bell X1 thing is a case in point. While I'm not a fan of either artist, you have to respect their persistence. It's only five years ago, remember, that Juniper were, quite literally, the laughing-stock of Dublin. I remember Kevin Courtney doing a review in the Irish Times for a Juniper single, the entirety of which read "Please don't send me any more Juniper singles". Damien Rice, right now, however is perceived as a "fully formed artist" and after ONE ALBUM (!???!) is now finding himself into Top 10s of best Irish records of all time. In my book, Rice is still an "upcoming" artist. I suppose it's about how you measure these things, isn't it?
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    19 Jul 2004 09:38 AM
    One of the reasons I think this site and others, are great, there are no Kevin bloody Courtneys or Barry Egans etc, all of them trying to be smarterer than each other brandishing knowledge and usually just trying to get into the "i told you so" position and destroying anything that looks like its not a certain success.
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    19 Jul 2004 09:41 AM
    I hate, actually, I despise Barry Egan. He has to be the worst music critic ever. He hasn't a clue. He's now writing for that "celebrity" watch thing in the sunday indo. How could anyone lower themselves to do that? Sad ba5tard.
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    19 Jul 2004 09:41 AM
    I reckon the best up and coming bands I've heard on the Irish music scene have to be the dudley corporation and the republic of loose. They both bring something completely new to a scene that can get bogged down with alot of very similar acts. The republic of loose are not the finished article yet but judging by their first album, there's alot of potential there. The point about staying power is a very good one. There is alot of coming and going in the Irish music scene but I think that's just the nature of the beast. Some acts will capture the imagination of the record buying public straight away where as other, equally fine acts, don't hit it off straight away. It's very hard to keep plugging away at it when bills are piling up and you don't seem to be reaping any reward for your endeavour. Curse these everyday realities but they can't be avoided
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    19 Jul 2004 10:13 AM
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    Extraordinary. I've been out of the country two months, and with the exception of The Things, I don't recognise any of the bands on the 'best upcoming band' list. Just goes to show the staying-power of the Dublin music 'scene' in my book. What happened, by the way, to Listo, The 'Mouse' and all the other assorted nonces who were crowding this forum persisently shouting how wonderful they were? They got jobs working for mobile phone companies, one supposes.
    Have to say now, I've seen The Mouse recently in Temple Bar and they were fantastic. Also read this today: http://www.cpu.ie/modules/news/article.php?storyid=107 To answer the where are they now question.
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    19 Jul 2004 10:44 AM
    bands are in competition with alot of other mediums of entertainment, playsations(throw em away! according to mick pyro,,..), more blockbuster cinema releases, digital tv etc, music is not as important as it had been to "the ordinary people" (insert man or dude where appropriate!), plus the price of drink and entry to gigs (8euro mid week? feck off the cinema is 8.50 and is more of a safe bet to be entertaining!) and not the smoking ban has driven alot of potential gig goers to the offie instead, (well me for one at least) personally, i think rep of loose should be massive, they're touring the uk now, hopefully the america loving thing wont affect their appeal in the uk considering most english people i know are pretty pi55ed off with america(or bush) right now and wish to distance themselves, dont know if that runs as deep as cultural issues, pretty sure i could though...(would explain the lack of us musical imports recently...?)
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    19 Jul 2004 10:59 AM
    What do you mean about lack of US musical imports Mutch? Are you talking about records or US bands playing here? In terms of records that are relatively popular in Europe, there seems to be tons of well loved US acts doing the rounds; Felix da Housecat (DJed several times in Ireland recently), LCD Soundsystem, the Rapture (played Oxegen), The Killers, Modest Mouse, The Strokes(?!) etc.
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    19 Jul 2004 11:16 AM
    I totally disagree with you Mutch. Music will never die out and I do still think that it is important to the 'ordinary person'. While I respect your opinion and acknowledge that computers, cinema etc are rivalling music, I do not think that music is not as popular. Look at the Oxegen Festival selling out, look at the numerous festivals around Ireland this summer (Heinken Green Enegry, Bud Rising, Woodstock, Source, Killarney etc). I don't know the stats but I'm sure cd sales are still on the up. And the cinema is a rip off compared to gigs. Even student prices seem to be rising. There is great value at some venues like every tuesday in Doyle's there are acoustic sessions where you get see at least three acts for €5. Ok, Ticketmaster do rip the consumer off but if you buy from places like Road Records, when they have tickets for certain gigs, you won't pay as much. Lack of American bands? What? At Oxegen, I saw The Strokes, The Rapture, Kings Of Leon and Scissor Sisters. Currently doing their rounds in the charts are The Killers, Maroon 5 and then alot of pop acts for your so called 'ordinary' person. And with the Republic Of Loose having that americanised sound, so what. Anyone who sees them live will be blown away. Their debut album is great and I don't think that their americanised influences will affect cd sales.
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    19 Jul 2004 11:34 AM
    I think what Mutch is refering to here is the fact that American bands are not as big business as they used to be, which I think is a fair enough point. Back in the 80s and 90s it seemed like pretty much all the popular music was coming from America. This plainly is not the case today. However, I think this owes more to the fact that American mainstream music is increasingly moving away from the whole band idea. Hip hop is the be all and end all in the states presently and has been for just under 10 years. No one can deny that there are new bands coming from the states but they are not making the huge impact they used to over here because they aren't coming over on the back of huge success in the states. Take the strokes for example. This may have changed recently so I could be wrong but last I heard they were virtual unknowns in America. The goal posts have definitely shifted but as any football pundit worth his salt will tell you, it's all swings and roundabouts. (I do hope the Strokes find success at home though. With a bit of luck maybe they'll stay there. Maybe they could take the Hives et al with them too. Happy days indeed)
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    19 Jul 2004 11:56 AM
    Hear hear!!
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    19 Jul 2004 12:27 PM
    I don't get the point you're trying to make El Duderino. Basically you seem to be saying that most of the music coming out of the US is Hip Hop. Ummm...and? ..Hip Hops popularity is global, so its not unusual that Hip Hop is getting more attention. You seem to be stuck in an guitar band centred mindset conveniently ignoring the diverse range of non rock-centric acts coming out of the US. Anyway, when you examine it closely, guitar based rock is in no danger of dying out in the US, its just that most of the rock bands that get in the US charts are mostly crap whiney sub-nirvana "alternative" (alternative to what exactly? a decent tune, perhaps?) rock bands, hence less likely to make an impact outside their home country. The Strokes are hardly "unknowns" in the states as anyone who reads US sites like pitchforkmedia will know. Anyway, how many records has a band gotta sell before they can be regarded as successful or making an impact? Sonic Youth have made a huge impact on modern music over the years despite never really ever having mainstream success. What are you expecting? a return to Bruce Springsteen style stadium filling rock acts? Truth is, very few acts have that kind of massive long-term success anymore, the day of the massive MTV superstars like Madonna or U2 is over. Is that a good or a bad thing? Neither I reckon, just different.
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    19 Jul 2004 12:50 PM
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    guitar based rock is in no danger of dying out in the US, its just that most of the rock bands that get in the US charts are mostly crap whiney sub-nirvana "alternative" (alternative to what exactly? a decent tune, perhaps)
    How exactly does this prove me wrong? You were the one that implied that there are as many good American acts coming through now as there was before yet you concede that the standard is nowhere near as high as it used to be. Was that not the thrust of my initial argument? The original discussion was about rock bands that are up and coming. If you want to talk about the merits of mainstream hip hop coming through from America at the moment I personnally think you're on to a loser there too. J-Kwon, 50 Cent?? P-lease. No I don't read pitchfork media and I said that I could be wrong about that fact but if they are getting rave reviews it's only started happening recently. Anyway, how representative of the general musical demographic is this pitchfork media? I read NME articles everyday that tout the neverending talents of frankly s**t bands (stand up Keane,The Strokes, The Hives etc. etc.) so you'll excuse me if this source doesn't cut much mustard with me. The simple fact is that there are alot less major bands in the world that hail from the states. There are still a few but do you really think there are as many American acts coming through now as there was before. That is the crux of the argument
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    19 Jul 2004 01:30 PM
    I didn't say you were wrong El Duderino, just that I could not see your point. Also if you look at the first post in this discussion and title of this topic, the discussion is best up and coming band, nowhere is the word "rock" used. By stating that the standard of mainstream chart rock has gone down, this is not to stating that the musical output of the US is declining, just that there is a deficiency in one particular area of one specific genre (think blink 182, creed, etc. pretty awful stuff). Yes, a lot of hip hop sucks too, but lets not limit our selves to that genre either. Once you get out of those genres, theres been a lot of other great, relatively successful US acts in recent years. The Electro of Adult., Felix da Housecat, even Fischerspooner has released one or two good tracks. The Disco Punk of The Rapture, LCD Soundsystem, in fact almost anything on the DFA label. The garage of The White Stripes (love em or hate em) and a host of similar acts like the Dirtbombs, Von Bondies etc. admittedly of varying quality. The whimsical psychedelia of the The Flaming Lips. These acts aren't dominating the US charts but no-one can deny they aren't successful on their own terms in their home country and abroad. How representative is Pitchforkmedia? well its obviously not Top of the Pops or even TRL, I'd say its about as representative as Cluas is of Ireland. Music fans read it, its a bit pretentious, but they obviously still love music and thats what counts.
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    19 Jul 2004 02:34 PM
    hmmm, good points, for the record i love the rep of loose. i stand (well and truly!) corrected on the american thing, fair points, guess I meant the massive influx of the early 90's compared to now as for music not being as popular, well, what i was getting at was that there are more than musicians and cinema going for the same dollar/euro in your pocket nowadays, so my assumption was that the majority of people dont buy as much music as they might have done in the past, i have no stats either, just anecdotal evidence from family and friends. as for its importance, to me it grows as i get older, im a softie, i just dont see it as much in our culture anymore, or maybe its there im just lookin the wrong way. Hope I'm wrong! no doubt we've plenty to sing about on this island anyway!
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    19 Jul 2004 11:12 PM
    i'd say the things or mighty stef.
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    19 Jul 2004 11:18 PM
    the ravines,the things,the urges best i've seen anyway.bought the repuplic of loose album to support the irish band thing and thought it was total s**te
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    20 Jul 2004 06:44 AM
    Id recommed you go see the Republic of Loose live to better understand why they are so popular. Its a combination of their music and their stage presence. I have to admit that i love the album. Give it a good few spins and see what happens
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    20 Jul 2004 07:20 AM
    I was trying to think of new bands I like and couldn't think of a huge amount. To be honest, its difficult to hear new stuff these days, the removal of no disco, donal dineen and phantom (temp) has removed the finger from the pulse. The only way I hear new band now is through 2fm and going to the listeneing post in tower records....which is crap. Gone are the days of 120 minutes! However I could tell you my fav punkd/dismissed/pimp my car episode .. how depressing. Is MTV2 good for playing new bands? Anyways a few I would look out for- Autamata, Rep of loose, magrugada, Perry blake.
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    20 Jul 2004 07:31 AM
    Eric makes a really good point, its getting harder to seek out and hear new music. The traditional media sucks in this regard, TV and Radio are pretty useless. There is always the internet, which besides the reccomendations of friends, is my main source of hearing new music these days but this requires you to download lots of stuff and then filter through all the crap to find the good stuff, a bit time consuming really, and not really an option for people without a broadband connection.
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    20 Jul 2004 08:02 AM
    I think the loss of phantom has a lot to do with the demise of new bands on the irish scene. Where were bands to get airplay other then at phantom fm. I got a phone call from an independent research company the other night at home. The girl was researching Radio music listening habits. As this was a brief interview over the phone, im a bit hazy on the music she played for me but it went something like this. First off, she didnt ask me if i listened to music a lot. A question which would have had a lot of impact in determing the results of her interview with me. Anyway, she asked me which radio stations i listened to most in the morning, evening, night. To be honest, ive given up listening to radio since phantom went off. Whats the point. Im not going to stay up ntil 12 at night just to find a radio station that plays the kind of music i enjoy. So the answers i gave we basically nothing in the morning and newstalk in the evening. Then i was asked to listen to 5/6 different music styles and after each listen i was asked how often i listened to that style and which station catered for it. At least 3 of the styles were relatively similar, as in pop like justin, S club 7, etc...and my answer was that i never listened to them, but that all the radio stations played it, but she kept asking for just one so i kept saying 2fm. I told her that i thought that there was little difference between the 3 styles There was one section for 80s music, i think there was country style, and the last section was what was supposed to be the indie/alternative section. I cant remember what the songs were, but i think they were Jet and nickleback (is that their name). Since this was the only style close to what i might listen to i responded that i listened to this style sometime and that phantom was my station of choice for it. Basically, it appeared that the questionaire was geared towards a particular result. By not asking me at the start whether or not i listened to music much, someone looking at my answers would derive that i dont listen to music and so my answers should be thrown out as a "not counting". However if she had asked if i listen to a lot of music someone might have derived that here is a person that listens to a lot of music but non of the current music stations caters for his music preference. At the end there were some questions on 98FM, so maybe that explains alot. But if your looking to sample peoples listening habits then the music samples should be more diverse.
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    20 Jul 2004 08:20 AM
    Couldn't agree more, Klootfan. I've given up on radio altogether, don't bother with the TV much these days either.
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    20 Jul 2004 08:36 AM
    I actually haven't listened to the radio in years. It's a joke that this country hasn't got a proper alternative music station. However it can be argued that for all our moaning and complaining, none of us appears to have even bothered starting up a radio station. We'll just sit back and hope somebody else does it!
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    20 Jul 2004 08:57 AM
    Yeah, but theres more to starting up a radio station than having the time and the funds. The Broadcasting comission has not ensured that there is a wide variety of programming out there. For example, Today FM has veered drastically away from the original "Radio Ireland" proposal, yet is allowed to get away with it and is now as mundane and uninteresting as 2FM. Also, there are good radio stations out there, like Phantom FM, but the commission needs to give these guys licenses so that they can broadcast again, legally. One big problem I also see is that the broadcasting commission seems to encourage too many "everyman" radio stations. Stations that appeal to too many bases but really please no-one, by having too much of a mix of news, chat, factual, music etc. I think it would be better if more niche stations were encouraged. What is needed is a national music-only station that covers a variety of genres of popular music without endless repetition of the same music. 2FM and Today FM do not fit the bill. Any station that has dull chat like Gerry Ryan taking up the airwaves is not a music station. Basically, no breakfast shows littered with competitions and traffic reports, no chat shows with idiots giving their small minded opionion on mere trivia, no drive-time shows, just music and DJs whose job is just to spin records and tell you what the last record was. Is that asking too much?
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    20 Jul 2004 09:19 AM
    I'm from the south east, currently based in Dublin, there is Beat FM (Carlow, Kilkenny, South Tipp, Waterford and Wexford), part owned by Paul MacGuinness. Now I dont know what the station plays, as I cant pick it up here and dont use the net for music, but it was aimed at the section of the "market" that appears to be waiting to be catered for. Anyone from/living in the South East got any info on this station?
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    20 Jul 2004 09:32 AM
    I heard an interesting report on newstalk on sat morning regarding the way licences are handed out. I didnt catch the name of the guy speaking because i came in late to the interview, but he was saying that when the BCI look at a request for a licence, the type of music they propose to play has very little to do with them getting awarded the licence. The most important factor is your financial status. How many people are you going to employ. How much revenue do you expect to get in. How much sponsership have you lined up. Apparently they do not like to bet on a station that is not a sure hit. They do no want stations going bust 6 months after setting up, because it makes them look like fools. And so, this means that stations end up playing the same rubbish everyday, because thats where the money is guaranteed. But surely this is not the way to award a licence. You only have to look at music that fills the venues in dublin/ireland every night of the week. Whelans, vicar st, olympia, ambassador etc. Where is the representation on our radio waves for that style of music. None. 12.30 at night till 2 in the morning doesnt count. Thats probably just a pathetic attempt to conform to a requirement in radio stations licence. Its not a realistic attempt to cater to that audience Where does digital radio come into this. One reason for licencing the FM frequency is the limited bandwidth. However, from my understanding of digital radio, no such limitation arises. Is there anyone investing in digital radio in ireland ? In a digital radio world, there would be no need for licencing to be so strict. If a station goes bust, then so what. Another one starts up. Just like a website going bust. There should be no need for concern. I presume though, that this being ireland, were are about 10 years behind the rest of the world. ( digital hub for the world me A*rse)
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    20 Jul 2004 09:45 AM
    Digital radio does have a limitation on bandwidth, take the difference between your lowest frequency to the highest broadcast frequency, thats your bandwidth. Its more that the bandwidth is better used, my understanding is that all stations broadcast all across the digital frequency spectrum and the receiver seperates the stations. No real licensing structure exists for DAB yet. anyway, the big problem for radio stations is the cost involved in setting up for DAB combined with the fact a lot of people don't have DAB radios yet and no financial incentive exists to get such stations off the ground.
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    20 Jul 2004 09:58 AM
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    I reckon the best up and coming bands I've heard on the Irish music scene have to be the dudley corporation and the republic of loose.
    Very modest of you Dudmeister. In fairness, you're one of the few bands putting yourselves about a bit.
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    20 Jul 2004 11:02 AM
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    I reckon the best up and coming bands I've heard on the Irish music scene have to be the dudley corporation and the republic of loose.
    Very modest of you Dudmeister. In fairness, you're one of the few bands putting yourselves about a bit.
    Huh??? I don't actually have anything to do with the dudley corporation or the republic of loose
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    20 Jul 2004 11:55 AM
    I'll stand corrected.
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    20 Jul 2004 12:02 PM
    I think you've already stood corrected!!
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    20 Jul 2004 12:20 PM
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    I think you've already stood corrected!!
    I'll sit down then
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    21 Jul 2004 10:31 AM
    Alison Curtis - Today FM Sundays 9pm-11pm some really good tunes on this programme Donal Dineen - Small Hours - 12am -2pm Tues-Fri, Today FM Haven't listened to this yet..any views??? Jenny Heuston - The Waiting Room - Monday - Thursday 10pm - 12am, 2FM Playlist Tuesday 20 July Vines - ride Beastie Boys - ch-check it out Buzzcocks - ever fallen in love Cathy Davey - clean and neat Franz Ferdinand - michael The Stills - lola stars and stripes Hal - i sat down (Repeat Session) Ian Brown - whispers Simple Kid - truck on The Cardigans - communication David Kitt - you know what i want to know Charlotte Hatherley - kim wilde Graham Coxon - spectacular Pony Club - spain is sunny Fugazi - waiting room Bloc Party - little thoughts Secret Machines - nowhere again Future Kings of Spain - face i know Iron and Wine - naked as we came Lou Reed - sattelite of love Redneck Manifesto - dillon family dancers Charlotte Hatherly - grey will fade Nick Cave - straight to you Saso - type a jitters The Open - just want to live Sunday 18th July 2FM played two studio sessions from the Zutons and the Distillers All the above presenters play and support new Irish bands....you just have to look for them
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    21 Jul 2004 10:35 AM
    Hey Dromed, congrats, I think you're the hardest working person here! Fair play to you.
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    21 Jul 2004 10:39 AM
    Is that sarcasm in your dulcet tones....??? :)
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    21 Jul 2004 10:57 AM
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    Originally posted by Dromed Donal Dineen - Small Hours - 12am -2pm Tues-Fri, Today FM Haven't listened to this yet..any views???
    Yep, Its still a pretty similar mix to here comes the night, though less structured than that show. Great show, but I can't stay awake. I always used to listen to the first hour of here comes the night with my radio on a sleep timer so I would basically drift off listening to it. But now its too late for anything other than a serious bout of insomnia or a companion for when you really must-get-to-that-next-level on a videogame Alison Curtis - Yeah, good tunes alright, but it seems dated already. In the few times I listened to it, I felt it was kind of a throwback to the old days of Dave Fanning, very guitar band centric. Not a bad thing in itself neccesarily, but I prefer Donal Dineen, if only they would move the show back to an earlier slot. Speaking of specific-genre shows, anyone remember "The River of Soul" on Today FM with Karl Tsingindos? I think I may have been alone in liking that show, but I loved all that deep soul/gospel stuff. Also, does any national radio station do a decent show dedicated to Dance/Electronic/Club-centric music? I mean not one thats crap, where some idiot Ali G clone DJ spends half the show saying this like "big shout out to all the posse in.." or "respect" and then proceeds to play some crap trance tune. In Belgium, the Dewaele Brothers (better known as 2manyDJs or one half of Soulwax) had their own show where they would play an "as heard on radio soulwax" style mix every week! Lucky Belgians. Why can't we have a show like that? (If one exists already, let me know!)
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    21 Jul 2004 11:46 AM
    also dan hegarty 12 - 2am 2fm weeknights john walshe sunday night fm 104
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    Alison Curtis - Today FM Sundays 9pm-11pm some really good tunes on this programme Donal Dineen - Small Hours - 12am -2pm Tues-Fri, Today FM Haven't listened to this yet..any views??? Jenny Heuston - The Waiting Room - Monday - Thursday 10pm - 12am, 2FM Playlist Tuesday 20 July Vines - ride Beastie Boys - ch-check it out Buzzcocks - ever fallen in love Cathy Davey - clean and neat Franz Ferdinand - michael The Stills - lola stars and stripes Hal - i sat down (Repeat Session) Ian Brown - whispers Simple Kid - truck on The Cardigans - communication David Kitt - you know what i want to know Charlotte Hatherley - kim wilde Graham Coxon - spectacular Pony Club - spain is sunny Fugazi - waiting room Bloc Party - little thoughts Secret Machines - nowhere again Future Kings of Spain - face i know Iron and Wine - naked as we came Lou Reed - sattelite of love Redneck Manifesto - dillon family dancers Charlotte Hatherly - grey will fade Nick Cave - straight to you Saso - type a jitters The Open - just want to live Sunday 18th July 2FM played two studio sessions from the Zutons and the Distillers All the above presenters play and support new Irish bands....you just have to look for them
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    21 Jul 2004 01:59 PM
    quote:
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    Is that sarcasm in your dulcet tones....??? :)
    no, seriously,...I'm not clever enough to use sarcasm, its the same reason i was never allowed near flammable materials,
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    21 Jul 2004 02:10 PM
    One of my choices for best upcoming band, a band from Blanch called Apollo Creed, saw them in a battle of the bands, good band, liked the live show, enthusiastic and well able to play
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    21 Jul 2004 09:42 PM
    Apollo Creed, isnt that the guy from the Rocky films? Great name for a band. Do they have a website or Ep? I think that with any new band trying to make a name for themselves. They need three things: 1} An up to date decent website 2} An Ep to have a solid recording 3} Plenty of gigs lined up And maybe a few reviews to help them along. Maybe Cluas could start up a section just for upcoming/new bands/artists so they get more recogintion as alot of new bands are releasing singles lately. Just a suggestion.
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    22 Jul 2004 09:00 AM
    Gar I think that's a great idea , as I've often checked cluas to see if there were any upcoming / new bands / artists reviewd and although there is a few there could be a lot more. I for one would certainly put some time into reviewing if reviewers were needed ! K
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    22 Jul 2004 09:05 AM
    These bands could start by giving us free CDs to review? That said, a review of a band I've never heard is not going to make me buy a CD, but hearing them is. Cluas does have an MP3 section for new bands, I haven't seen any new material there in ages!
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    22 Jul 2004 09:14 AM
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    These bands could start by giving us free CDs to review? That said, a review of a band I've never heard is not going to make me buy a CD, but hearing them is. Cluas does have an MP3 section for new bands, I haven't seen any new material there in ages!
    If you want to check out CH-1 with some live tracks from a very recent gig in The Hub, go to www.channelonesound.com/media.htm
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    22 Jul 2004 09:36 AM
    Streaming audio? Would it kill ya to stick up a downloadable MP3? I can understand bands not wanting to "give away" their music, but consider this: A streaming audio track is unlikely to get a second listen and therefore unlikely to grow on you if it doesn't make an immediate impression, which I have to say didn't happen listening to the first track at low volume through tinny work PC speakers. It also alienates people who don't have broadband (I do, both at home and at work). Lots of signed bands give away MP3s, and I have bought records by these bands. Check out Epitonic.com for example. I think one dowloadable MP3 on a site that people actually visit like Cluas or Epitonic can have more impact than an entire streaming album on the bands site.
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    22 Jul 2004 09:38 AM
    This might be viewed as a bit OTT but feck it we have no shame, if anyone wants a free live Lucera CD send a mail to Luceramail@yahoo.co.uk or lucera@cluas.com, we'll send you a short "homemade" recording from Dorans, not a release quality recording, theres a proper demo being made, but we'd love a bit of feedback that didnt come from mates or people we half know. Too much of that is worse than judging your own material while consuming vast amounts of coke. we want the (horrible) truth! Cheers,
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    22 Jul 2004 10:31 AM
    Thats exactly the point I was trying to make. Alot of artists just forget about their websites and never update them eg. Declan O'Rourke. They should maybe offer an option to stream certain songs that they want to keep safe but defintely put some songs up for download. Visting sites of new bands is how I discover alot of them. Its very lazy on their behalf if they don't have a site that has up to date gig listings, mp3s, images, bio and contact address. If a band doesn't have these on their site then why would anyone try harder to find out about them. But yeah being able to download mp3s is defo way forward especially with more and more people buying ipods.
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    22 Jul 2004 11:29 PM
    Have to add in Stellaband, as they were very impressive in the Sugar Club. Going to go see Stoneocean in Dorans next week and see just how good they are.
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    23 Jul 2004 11:02 AM
    For up and coming bands check out the C.U. Records stable of artists: Scribble - www.scribbletheband.com Niall Connolly - www.niallconnolly.com Elephant - www.elephantinthemoon.com All of these are well worth checking out and are working hard at it. There are MP3s on all the sites for download for anyone interested. BW
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    23 Jul 2004 02:38 PM
    Howdy, I notice that there are a number of bands that I don't get to see live and have no way of hearing their stuff because I can't really listen to streams at work or because they just have nothing to listen to. It is annoying. If Cluas could add more artists to their MP3 section that might help. I know that there are some bands that just can't afford to host their MP3s on their site (or even build a proper site). This could give them a leg up. I am guessing that Cluas would have to pay for this though so it may not be feasible. Anyway, please feel free to download Gardening from www.dwightworld.com/links and say what you want about it - here or anywhere else for that matter. If you like it, and since it is Friday and I am feeling pretty good, drop me an email between now and Monday and I'll post you out a copy of the EP free gratis. Cheers, Stephen.
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    24 Jul 2004 10:10 AM
    It would also be handy if they could seperate the artists in the mp3 section into categories. It just be easier to find bands that you'd be interested in. Do you have a website Lucera that we can listen to your bands music?
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    25 Jul 2004 12:34 AM
    Music has nothing to do with either "respect" or "brilliance"; its an independent artform unreliant on Bono. The Mouse are a pretty funky live band, but the main problem with the Dublin live or otherwise scene is that people assume that listening to music makes them music fans. Can anyone justify this outrageous claim? I thought not. Lately there's been a lot of buzz about the re-released Eno albums from the 70s, and rightly so. But it's disturbing that no one would actually listen to them until MOJO/Q talked them up. No matter how "liberated" Dublin musicians think they are, the chances are that they are bored little people regurgitating that which they label "deep". Only two bands I have heard have the potential to fly above this rot: The Immediate and The Shakes. Let's hope they have the presence of mind to give Ireland a decent rock 'n' roll band for the first time.
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    26 Jul 2004 06:34 AM
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    the main problem with the Dublin live or otherwise scene is that people assume that listening to music makes them music fans
    What does make peolpe music fans then? A secret handshake?!
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    26 Jul 2004 07:44 AM
    TATOOS!
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    26 Jul 2004 08:00 AM
    Overpriced band T-Shirts? Bringing bubble mix to gigs? - Frames fans, or so I've heard, haven't been to a Frames gig in a while.
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    02 Aug 2004 11:40 AM
    The guggenheim grotto are great, they have a previously released ep called a lifetime in heat which was released under kevin may's name and is a free down load on their website. Neosupervital rocks! As do the 66e. I'm going to the Ballroom gig on Friday just to see them cos I missed the gig in whelans. And yes the chapters are worth all the talk about them. An extremely tight band with great instrumentation and harmonies!
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    03 Aug 2004 01:05 AM
    I haven't read this whole thread, but that never stops me from jumping in and stating the obvious. :) Someone made a comment about bands from the States not gaining as much popularity as they did in the 80's and 90's--I think one of the reasons for this is that in the 80's and 90's there weren't as many genres that were popular here as there are today. There's much more to choose from these days--country, hip hop, R&B, pop, rock, nu metal--so many genres it's no wonder there aren't huge blockbusters like there used to be. Someone also mentioned the Strokes--they were pretty popular for a few minutes, among certain crowds.
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    03 Aug 2004 07:27 AM
    66e were great! What are God Is An Astronaut like? Going to see them on Thurs
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    03 Aug 2004 07:56 AM
    Electronica-type band, have heard good things about them live but haven't seen them live myself...worth checking out I'd say
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    03 Aug 2004 08:14 AM
    sounds good, Whelans this Thursday, I'll be there.........
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    03 Aug 2004 08:47 AM
    Frames fans bring bubble-mix to gigs? Now, we're talking!!!
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    03 Aug 2004 02:18 PM
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    Neosupervital rocks!
    He certainly does, finally got a chance to see him live supporting Senor Coconut in the Half Moon, Cork. Great electropop and he isn't too proud to actually entertain his audience (whats with the little bicycle though? ). Senor Coconut had a very tough act to follow!
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    04 Aug 2004 03:28 PM
    The Ballroom of Romance is a good place to see upcoming Irish and not so Irish music: http://www.ballroomofromance.com
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    15 Sep 2004 02:58 PM
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    I'll stand corrected.
    hehe, comedy gold. we have some songs up on epitonic, think we get a fair bit of web traffic from it
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    15 Sep 2004 03:00 PM
    my 2 cents best "upcoming" irish band remains Waiting Room. a different league to any of the other hwch bands that spring to mind
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    23 Sep 2004 02:11 PM
    Sorry to drag things back... but just to pick up on what Vandala was saying... Yeah fair play to the Bellies and DR for their persistence. But Juniper were NOT the laughing stock of Dublin - ever. What happened was one journalist - Courtney took a dislike to them and wrote huge amounts of vitriol against them. This never impacted on the numbers of people coming to see them, or sellouts at the Olympia, Mean Fiddler, Music Centre, whereever. It happened to coincide with Damien Rice being unhappy and leaving. What has happened is that those negative reviews have stuck around as a legacy - something which happens sometimes and is perceived by people to be the gospel. Courtney as a journalist lacks any credibility - as bad as Barry Egan. Worse, he is poisonous. Note his one-star review of the new Frames album. He's trying to be the vanguard of a "back lash" against these guys. Bulls**t. In a years time he'll be trying to lick Glen's hole in the same way as he has tried to lick Damien Rice's over the last few years. Sorry bout the outburst but I get annoyed when people understandor perceive Juniper as having been anything less than a damn good young band that have since spawned two brilliant acts. And for up and comings - go Neosupervital, and fair play to Ham Sandwich! JL
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    23 Sep 2004 02:44 PM
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    Courtney as a journalist lacks any credibility - as bad as Barry Egan.
    Nobody is as bad as Barry Egan
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    23 Sep 2004 03:13 PM
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    But Juniper were NOT the laughing stock of Dublin - ever....Sorry bout the outburst but I get annoyed when people understandor perceive Juniper as having been anything less than a damn good young band that have since spawned two brilliant acts.
    Sorry, but that's dingleberries. Crap begets crap, unless you are planting rubarb. And I agree with QsySue. The Strokes are twaddle as well


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