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Babylon and house of israel
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    from Damien Davis have written up these pages in order to let people know that the Jehovah's Witnesses are "The House of Israel" by their own addmission, so this make's them fall under the judgement of same. And who, may you ask are the House of Israel? They where the people that the Lord of Israel, in the time of Moses brought out from under the tight-fisted control of the their persecutor, Pharoh of Egypt. If they the watchtower are the House of Israel, due to the fact they have taken their name from the prophet Isaiah, where the God of Israel is Addressing his people as the House of Israel, then it stands to reason that they must be, (the house of israel) So, by taking their name from this book, they have identified them-selves as (the house of Israel) and so, they must in these times be judged by their God, as (the House of Israel) They have in the past identified them-selves with the Israelites, with statements such as this one. "In three days in which pharaoh's host pursued the Israelites into the wilderness, the three years from 1917 to 1920 at which time Pharoah's messangers will be swallowed up in the sea of angry humanity, they say the wheels will come off their chariots.(Orginisations. page 258.-The Finished Mystery.) So, you can see there from this one statement,that they are in effect calling the Americans and it's leader or President after the old King Pharoah, so, considering they are based in America,(Brooklyn) when they wrote this, they mean to say that America is Egypt. So,they have to be saying that we are moving right in to the time of the Prophet Ezekiel,when they call them selves and the nation of America becomes the They are right to call themselves (The Israelites) for you canott take the name of the God of Israel, who is (Jehovah) and not be the Israeltes. In the book Ezekiel, the house of Israel are judged in the final days for lieing in the divine name, so then, they must accept the Judgement handed out to them through the Prophets, which say they have carried on the lie in the intimate group of their people,as it clearly states in the Peophet Ezekiel, and just like their fathers before them, they have fallen in love with the idols that are before their faces. And what are they? They are the books that they love to Publish, in the book of Amos,3 they are nailed when the prophet says this Publish O' Israel and proclaim your voluntary offerings) This is what they do, they love to publish and they proclaim that they have been built up legally by accepting voluntary donations,or free offerings, free donations. I have given you a few links, just tap into them and the first one expains why these people can be none other than (The house of Israel) So what I am trying to say in my own clumsy way is that they are (The house of Israel) who have lied in the name of their GOD,Jehovah, twice, in fact.1975 and 1925. It seems to me that it is time for the Wittnesses of Israel to have the divine name of GOD taken from them. If this has to be done in a court of law then so be it, for they have profained his name among the nations, the name of their GOD. I do feel that it is my duty to see that this is seen to in a most definite way. It is not possible for an orginisation to take the divine name and make two presumptions in that name and then carry them on in the intimate group of their people;Gods people, for they are calling Jehovah a liar and how can this be allowed? If it has to be brought to a court of law in order to proove beyond any shadow of a doubt that they have lied and that they have absolutey no right to use the divine name,then this is what should be done. They are mixed up in all kids of idolatry, with their printing houses, Bethel and Gilead and even by using these two names they fall into the same judgement as their fore-fathers.Do I make my self clear? They love to publish, they are causing the deaths of their own people, and I mean litterally as well as spiritually.When it is Spiritually then it leads to a litaral death. There are many cases coming to the attention of the public of sudden suacides by members of the Wittnesses, and all because they are confused and afraid and alone and in pain, and they dont know why. They are left wide open to the one they believe to be the Devil and his attacks,because their pain causes them confusion and then they leave without any kind of emotional support to help them reover from their plight. When you have taken this in, and I hope it is not too much to take in, if it is not then go to the other links, there you will find some more "I will visit the altars of Bethal and the horns of the altars shall be cut off and fall to the ground" say's the Lord Jehovah. and also http://damiendavis.net
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    11/2/2003 12:53 PM
    JAYSUS..DAMO DEMPSEYS GONA A BIT QUARE ON US HAS HE?
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    11/6/2003 8:50 AM
    i'm Sorry but I think you need to get new Glasses, the name is Davis, not Dempsey,and I believe it's you who is gone a bit square, not even one bit of reverance for man nor beast with your Jasuss, is this all that you can acctually muster up as an attack against what I am trying to do here Clear Gods name and take it from the hands of people who have made it into a laughing stock among the people of planet Earth, you know what your typical of this generation, its alway's the same ol same ol phrases that you come out with, and think your the coolest hiipest thing on the forum, your a twit, how does that feel, do you realise that you probably hurt about ten people per day with that crummy out dated,"hey, your man has really lost the plot, hasn't he, all you out there happen to read this". it's so predictable the dung that pours from your mouth's, tell us what can you do? come on and tell us where your talents lie?please we are all just dying to hear how you have it all sussed, remember it's Damien Davis KEEP IT IN YOUR HEAD AND DONT FORGET, MR. HIP COOL AND COLD, SO TYPICAL OF THE SMARMY LOVELESS GENERATION THAT i HAPPEN TO BE BORN INTO. TO HELL WITH YOU AND YOUR GENERATION. jUST TO ANNOY YOU HERE IS A PLUG FOR ME AND dUBLIN PUBSCENE http://www.dublinpubscene.com/entertainment/bands/damiendavis.html IT'S NOT SQUARENESS THAT DRIVES ME BUT GOODNESS FROM WITHIN AND APPRECIATION FOR THE BETTER THINGS IN LIFE LIKE THE ONE WHO CREATED THE EARTH, AND YOU SEE i HAVE TO PLUG MY SELF BECAUSE THEY'LL KEEP YOU DOWN AY OLD WAY THEY CAN ON THIS EARTH, WHEN YOU SAY THE WRONG THING, LIKE TRYING TO CLEAR gods name. so long and have a good life and i mean that
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    11/6/2003 9:47 AM
    Can I just make a statement here Mr. Davis? This is a music forum...and yes it does happen to veer off on to other subjects from time to time, yet most of the time these digressions are usually culturally related in that they have loose connections with music or a music 'scene' ...so we talk about films, bands, fashion, drugs and a million other youth-culture subjects. I don't appreciate reading about your views on religon or stuffing them down another posters virtual throat...I'm not a catholic, in fact I'm not even a Christian..but I don't come on this site to preach to others because religon and spirituality is a private and personal thing. You'll have noticed that no one else joined in the conversation because no one here had any interest in your preaching. Your meanderings about 'your God' sound paranoid and fearful and I'm deeply offended by your statement 'the one that created the earth' because that goes against my own beliefs...I love the fact that people like you make a point of spouting on about goodness and love and in the same breath proclaim that your way is the only way, s**ting on about vengence and wrath. Sorry mate, your way is NOT the only way. I also love the way that you've used the post to advertise a link for 'pubscene' ya muppet. As it happens Dirtypropaganda is a saint among his peers, a modern day story teller and prophet and I won't hear a bad word against him (either will Willie the Wild one, the original preacher man!)...so watchmandudeofwherever this aint no place for proselytising, get thee to a soap box on Grafton Street where the Harry Krishnas may indulge you in a debate....if you dare!
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    Mr Davis who gave you the authority to 'clear God's name'? when the greatest philosephers, theologians and holy wo/men wouldn't dare to pretend to know his name? who put all this stuff in your head? its not holy or becoming and if its a goodness and appreciation for all god's creation that supposedly moves you why cannot you recognise a joyful holy thing called humour. that's the problem with all you religious freaks -not your wacky beliefs- we all have them and we're all entitled to them and anyhow who's right and whose wrong- but its your humour bypass that you all seem to possess, -a total lack of laughs and within this is the rub -if your so happy why are you so easily affronted? and why can you not talk to people of this generation or any other without resorting to speaking in boring babbling tongue? because you've hate simmering away beneath the surface, all this religious babble has got nothing to do with life getting up everyday and admitting we know nothing, its a mystery, we love, we laugh, we cry we eat we s**t we die whatever. the fact is you're scared of that and you need this nonsense to try make sense of it but don't try impose it on everyone else look at the last thing you've written up there its you vs the world everyone is out to get you paranoia. adn that's the way this elitist religious bulls**t makes people its perverted and got nothing to do with god or happiness so son't drag that poor beleugered icon into it. its not honest to jaysus souls like dirty ot even savages like me that give god a bad name (after all he created us sinners ) but f**kers like you. you wnat everyone else to feel dead cos you do but shewolf's advice to cast out your devils is- wake up get yourself some psychotherapy to sort out those tangled emotions. ps you know your name is synonymous with the devil to everyone in the hip worls you so despise?
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    11/6/2003 12:36 PM
    I AM GOD AND WILL STRIKE DOWN ON ALL YOU MOTHA F**KERS.
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    11/6/2003 1:06 PM
    Well said Shewolf...Big Up Ya Bad Self!!
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    11/6/2003 1:21 PM
    I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side. - Bill Hicks
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    11/6/2003 2:04 PM
    well said Dromed...... ..thank God I'm an Athiest
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    11/6/2003 2:10 PM
    Just remember folks...we do NOT refer to Jesus as "the late J.C.".
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    11/6/2003 2:36 PM
    I think Damien has head up Jaysus` ass.But either way I dont give a f**k I`ll do what I want when I want be it Godly or otherwise we all will and as Shewolf so adaptly put it, God created all so let him deal with the mess sinners and all.
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    11/6/2003 6:44 PM
    What god are you talking about?
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    11/6/2003 8:08 PM
    who said jahovah?
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    11/7/2003 12:41 AM
    singing .. (in a donamede accent) 'ROLLIN DOWN TO DUB-A-LIN TOWN..COMIN FROM THE NORTHSUYDE HEADIN SOUT-BOWND..... go on ya boy-ya damo!!!!
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    11/7/2003 12:50 AM
    BY THE WAY 'WATCH DOG OF EVIL' OR WHATEVER U CALL URSELF..I DONT NEED GLASSES I WAS LIGHTHEARTEDLY TAKING THE PISS OUT OF YOU..SADLY THE JOKE WAS LOST ON YOU...DAMIEN DEMPSEY IS ONE OF IRELANDS BRIGHTEST SINGING TALENTS ...I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IRONIC IF IT WAS IN FACT HE WHO WAS PREACHING THE WORD TO US AND NOT YOU MR DAVIS...IT WAS A JOKE...NOBODY HERE IS CLAIMING TO BE COOL BUT FROM YOUR OUTBURST IT SEEMS THAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE A DEEP ROOTED DESIRE TO BE CONSIDERED COOL...IF WE ARE ALL GOING TO HELL AND YOUR GOING TO HEAVEN I CAN TELL WHERE THE FUN IS GONNA BE.... YOU SANCTIMONIOUS BAG OF WHORES INTESTINES. f**k OFF AND LEAVE US FREE THINKING ADULTS ALONE
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    11/7/2003 5:13 AM
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    BY THE WAY 'WATCH DOG OF EVIL' OR WHATEVER U CALL URSELF..I DONT NEED GLASSES I WAS LIGHTHEARTEDLY TAKING THE PISS OUT OF YOU..SADLY THE JOKE WAS LOST ON YOU...DAMIEN DEMPSEY IS ONE OF IRELANDS BRIGHTEST SINGING TALENTS ...I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IRONIC IF IT WAS IN FACT HE WHO WAS PREACHING THE WORD TO US AND NOT YOU MR DAVIS...IT WAS A JOKE...NOBODY HERE IS CLAIMING TO BE COOL BUT FROM YOUR OUTBURST IT SEEMS THAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE A DEEP ROOTED DESIRE TO BE CONSIDERED COOL...IF WE ARE ALL GOING TO HELL AND YOUR GOING TO HEAVEN I CAN TELL WHERE THE FUN IS GONNA BE.... YOU SANCTIMONIOUS BAG OF WHORES INTESTINES. from Damien Davis, are you for real, are you realy for real, first of all i'm not here to cause more hate than the hate that is already on this board, but you cant take the piss out of the handel that i have chosen because it deals with what i am trying to say to these people when you have an equaly stupid name like Dirty propaganda, if you look down any web board such as this one, you'll find that their all pretty stupid looking handels. who have realy got it wrong this time, but i am not here to tell them or to snipe about how wrong they are, because believe it or not, I am not that kind of person, but you see, i am observant, and what i have observed is this, there are various stories about these people suddenly commiting suacides, like two old witness, a husband and a wife getting into a boat one day and sailiing away and just killled them selves, why becasue of seveare deppression. I care a great deal for people, if did not i wouldn't do what it is that i am doing right now replying to a pack of volves , just look down the board and tell me where the hate is coming from,the reason i replied to the Damien Dempsey thing, i dont appreaciate jokes made at the expense of other people, and just like you, i dont suffer fool's gladly, the document i sent in is a reasonable document and i will tell you why, becasue it is based on truth, I know you wont do what i ask becasue you are afraid, but if you look in scripture at just one section, but you wont do this because you are afraid, the section is this: Eekiel 33/10. I'm not going to tell you what it says. but if you do look at it you will find there a judgement by the very same GOD that they believe in, the very same GOD who took out Soddom AND FLOODED EARTH, you know the one that you all think that you are visiting on a sunday morning. This God say's he punishes his people in the end for making a mockery of his name,for disgracing his name among the nations, all because they made two blatant errors in his name 1925 and 1975. If you found something that would help a people out of a situation, and a bad one at that, tell me, what would you do, would you sit around and do nothing, giving no warning. im. no preacher and nor have i ever wanted to be one, but what would you do, would you turn around and say, ah, they'll be alright, there is no God, they wont suffer any judgement. if your answer is yes, from me it couldn't be, knowing that this God who can both kill and raise up has indeed put a curseupon these peoplefor presuming two error's in his name, just as it states in scripture 10/10hosea]states=it is my desire that I should chastise them and the people shall be gathered against them , when they shall bind them selves in their two error's]the word of Jehovah. The only two errors that the people who call them selves after the God of Israels name was 1925 and 1975, where they got two times wrong. No this has nothing to do with sanctimonious.
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    11/7/2003 5:44 AM
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    Can I just make a statement here Mr. Davis? This is a music forum...and yes it does happen to veer off on to other subjects from time to time, yet most of the time these digressions are usually culturally related in that they have loose connections with music or a music 'scene' ...so we talk about films, bands, fashion, drugs and a million other youth-culture subjects. I don't appreciate reading about your views on religon or stuffing them down another posters virtual throat...I'm not a catholic, in fact I'm not even a Christian..but I don't come on this site to preach to others because religon and spirituality is a private and personal thing. You'll have noticed that no one else joined in the conversation because no one here had any interest in your preaching. Your meanderings about 'your God' sound paranoid and fearful and I'm deeply offended by your statement 'the one that created the earth' because that goes against my own beliefs...I love the fact that people like you make a point of spouting on about goodness and love and in the same breath proclaim that your way is the only way, s**ting on about vengence and wrath. Sorry mate, your way is NOT the only way. I also love the way that you've used the post to advertise a link for 'pubscene' ya muppet. As it happens Dirtypropaganda is a saint among his peers, a modern day story teller and prophet and I won't hear a bad word against him (either will Willie the Wild one, the original preacher man!)...so watchmandudeofwherever this aint no place for proselytising, get thee to a soap box on Grafton Street where the Harry Krishnas may indulge you in a debate....if you dare!
    I dont know if you happened to notice or not, but I am a musician, so i have every right to be on this board, although i wont be where i'm not wanted and also this is a discussion part of the board, not just for music as you have noted your self and i dont realy care about the love that you have for willi or dirtypropaganda, but as i am a nre member you should at least show me a little bit of respect, at least for having the gut's to come on here and speak as i have, could you have done it or do you just aggree with what everyone else says, and belive me, dirtypropaganda aint no prophet, not even close on that one. i'm glad you like the pubscene thing, do you go round calling people ya muppet all the time,because it sounds rude and devoid of any respect for anyone and your believes would not intrest me at all. because i have read in-between your lines here and you have the cheek to accuse me of being loveless, go and look in the mirror, as i have said down the bottom of this board, i'm not here to spread any hate, i would not even bother with this board again. damien davis its amazing just how freaked everyone gets with the mention of GOD, maybe it has something to do with the fact that he destroyed soddom and other towns and has got a fearfull temper, after all its not my caracter that i am describing in the first text. i think the fear is coming from your end on that one, considering that God can be so violent at times.
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    11/7/2003 6:55 AM
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    Mr Davis who gave you the authority to 'clear God's name'? when the greatest philosephers, theologians and holy wo/men wouldn't dare to pretend to know his name? who put all this stuff in your head? its not holy or becoming and if its a goodness and appreciation for all god's creation that supposedly moves you why cannot you recognise a joyful holy thing called humour. that's the problem with all you religious freaks -not your wacky beliefs- we all have them and we're all entitled to them and anyhow who's right and whose wrong- but its your humour bypass that you all seem to possess, -a total lack of laughs and within this is the rub -if your so happy why are you so easily affronted? and why can you not talk to people of this generation or any other without resorting to speaking in boring babbling tongue? because you've hate simmering away beneath the surface, all this religious babble has got nothing to do with life getting up everyday and admitting we know nothing, its a mystery, we love, we laugh, we cry we eat we s**t we die whatever. the fact is you're scared of that and you need this nonsense to try make sense of it but don't try impose it on everyone else look at the last thing you've written up there its you vs the world everyone is out to get you paranoia. adn that's the way this elitist religious bulls**t makes people its perverted and got nothing to do with god or happiness so son't drag that poor beleugered icon into it. its not honest to jaysus souls like dirty ot even savages like me that give god a bad name (after all he created us sinners ) but f**kers like you. you wnat everyone else to feel dead cos you do but shewolf's advice to cast out your devils is- wake up get yourself some psychotherapy to sort out those tangled emotions. ps you know your name is synonymous with the devil to everyone in the hip worls you so despise?
    I do believe that most of the great thinkers of which you speak are in agreement on the name of God, something i'm not willing to discuss, because it has already been through the mill, this discussion, over and again. the 'stuff wasn't put inside my head' I have known my God since an early age. Humor is not alway's holy, sometimes its at other peoples expense, like the websites devoted to dressing up Jesus in all kinds of clothes,so as to mock, why is this done? just to have a laugh? I dont see anything Holy about that , do you, or tha fact that in every comedy club throughout the earth because Jehovah's witnesses are laughed at, this also means that the name is being mocked. and i resent realy strongly the insult, calling me a religous freak, have I insulted you? then dont insult me. I can laugh just like anyone else, I get affronted so easily because i feel a certain sense of loyalty to this God which you are all so displeased about, I have a sense of loyalty to him, the same way as you would have to someone you loved, if someone laughed at your father or brother you would defend them right? and if they mocked and mocked , then you would be affronted. the fact is we are all scared at some point in our lives of death, your no diffrent to me, i dont know why your going on as if you dont ever feel fear. because I know that you feel fear, if you didnt then you wouldnt be alive. your a liar by what you have said, that i think everyone is out to get me. how dare you say f**kers like me, how dare you, who do you think you are speaking to people like that?you should be put off this forum, and i feel quite liveley thank you. you done get awa with speaking to people as you have spoken to me, do you know why, because it's wrong, rememeber that, right and wrong, anyway so long and keep yopur board, your true hatred has realy been expressed to me.
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    11/7/2003 7:03 AM
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    I think Damien has head up Jaysus` ass.But either way I dont give a f**k I`ll do what I want when I want be it Godly or otherwise we all will and as Shewolf so adaptly put it, God created all so let him deal with the mess sinners and all.
    tojimbo noballs you know, you really make sense, how do you do it? all those words, there compleatley, I dont know, I wish I could be like you, and have such a knowledge of so many great words, and to have such a non caring breazy attitude, how did you develop that style, and your so intense too, i bet you've got so many pretty women screaming to your door...........can you teach me how to be you...........i'd love that damien davis
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    11/7/2003 9:06 AM
    Damien, You appear to want us to respect you and your viewpoint yet you parachute onto this discussion board with a religious diatribe. As you should know, all such discussion boards are communities of like minded people and I think you will find that most people here are interesting, intelligent people and probably have no interest in religion. Equally, we are all hostile to people using the board to further their own agenda (be it religion, pen*s extensions, Asian Sluts etc etc). To have expected any other reaction to your original post is naive in the extreme. Please do tell us about your music but spare us the homilies.
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    Oh this is a site for the people of big words and phrases well F**k me i better go and get an education.You w**nker I have hate filled in me from c**ksuckers like you preaching your parables of bulls**t and messages from God or Jaysus well frankly you can shove them up your hole side ways and set fire to them. I have a phone here the new Nokia top of the range s**t and I can get HIM(GOD) on the line anytime Id get him to say a few words but I have him washing all your bulls**t down the sink.Yeah I can instill the breezy attitude for you, the next time I see you I`ll just p**s in your mouth.
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    Wow.....no really wow...I am simply amazed by your nerve I really am. Right lets just have a quick look at some of the points you've made over your last few posts: 1. "if you look down any web board such as this one, you'll find that their all pretty stupid looking handels. who have realy got it wrong this time, but i am not here to tell them or to snipe about how wrong they are" - right so you've just completley contradicted yourself about a million times ...'I'm not here to tell them how wrong they are...' What else have you been doing but that very thing????? 2. "I care a great deal for people, if did not i wouldn't do what it is that i am doing right now replying to a pack of volves" - who the f**k do you think you are?? mother f**kin teresa?? Wow are you going to save us from ourselves? 3. "the document i sent in is a reasonable document and i will tell you why, becasue it is based on truth, I know you wont do what i ask becasue you are afraid," - now this is interesting....'based on truth'...what's that supposed to mean? True to you mate, not true to me...not true to the millions of Atheiests, Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans, etc around the world...you have no business coming on to a public board talking about the truth..the only thing I'm afraid of is living in a world with people like you that can't accept that there are other people in this world with different beliefs to you and that they're way is wrong & yours is the only 'truth'...where's the love in that? Tell me cos I'd love to know? 4. "as i am a nre member you should at least show me a little bit of respect" - This is hilarious it really is....show you some respect? You came on here preaching to intelligent people that don't need preachin to, spitting venom that someone poked a bit of fun at you - you don't deserve a shred of respect 5. "i'm not here to spread any hate" - so what exactly is your agenda then? Why have you started quoting scriptures and making moral judgements on people you know nothing about? 6. "its amazing just how freaked everyone gets with the mention of GOD" - presumptions again, wow you really can't see past the end of your nose can you? I get freaked that people like you are allowed to walk around freely lambasting free speaking adults like us 7. "because I know that you feel fear, if you didnt then you wouldnt be alive" - now I'm really worried...wow what are you on about? It's a pity you had to get so defensive, & are incapable of having a reasonable disussion about religion, though it's off the topic of music I'd have liked to have talked to someone with different ideas, out of interest, to see what your views are, I mightn't agree with them or even believe in them but I'd hear them out.. but sadly you're not capable of doing that in return. Your posts have been full of anger & venom and you've used your 'loyalty' to 'God' as a justification..what a representative of your faith you are, your parents must be so very proud.
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    11/7/2003 4:09 PM
    Amen Sister!!! Now, where did I put those Stryper albums.....
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    11/7/2003 4:22 PM
    You said it Dromed and said it well.Another victory for the uneducated and unholy.
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    11/8/2003 3:31 AM
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    Wow.....no really wow...I am simply amazed by your nerve I really am. Right lets just have a quick look at some of the points you've made over your last few posts: 1. "if you look down any web board such as this one, you'll find that their all pretty stupid looking handels. who have realy got it wrong this time, but i am not here to tell them or to snipe about how wrong they are" - right so you've just completley contradicted yourself about a million times ...'I'm not here to tell them how wrong they are...' What else have you been doing but that very thing????? 2. "I care a great deal for people, if did not i wouldn't do what it is that i am doing right now replying to a pack of volves" - who the f**k do you think you are?? mother f**kin teresa?? Wow are you going to save us from ourselves? 3. "the document i sent in is a reasonable document and i will tell you why, becasue it is based on truth, I know you wont do what i ask becasue you are afraid," - now this is interesting....'based on truth'...what's that supposed to mean? True to you mate, not true to me...not true to the millions of Atheiests, Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans, etc around the world...you have no business coming on to a public board talking about the truth..the only thing I'm afraid of is living in a world with people like you that can't accept that there are other people in this world with different beliefs to you and that they're way is wrong & yours is the only 'truth'...where's the love in that? Tell me cos I'd love to know? 4. "as i am a nre member you should at least show me a little bit of respect" - This is hilarious it really is....show you some respect? You came on here preaching to intelligent people that don't need preachin to, spitting venom that someone poked a bit of fun at you - you don't deserve a shred of respect 5. "i'm not here to spread any hate" - so what exactly is your agenda then? Why have you started quoting scriptures and making moral judgements on people you know nothing about? 6. "its amazing just how freaked everyone gets with the mention of GOD" - presumptions again, wow you really can't see past the end of your nose can you? I get freaked that people like you are allowed to walk around freely lambasting free speaking adults like us 7. "because I know that you feel fear, if you didnt then you wouldnt be alive" - now I'm really worried...wow what are you on about? It's a pity you had to get so defensive, & are incapable of having a reasonable disussion about religion, though it's off the topic of music I'd have liked to have talked to someone with different ideas, out of interest, to see what your views are, I mightn't agree with them or even believe in them but I'd hear them out.. but sadly you're not capable of doing that in return. Your posts have been full of anger & venom and you've used your 'loyalty' to 'God' as a justification..what a representative of your faith you are, your parents must be so very proud.
    acctually their both very much dead, rest them. why did you presume they where alive? I'll tell you what they died from will I, Alcohol posining and a drug unduced overdose, my dad back in 1979 and my mum in 1996. Unfortunatley they where destroyed by the system of givin out pills, such as valium and librium to people who needed help but instead all they got was MORE. more of the same pills to have them running around in circles, from drink to drug and on and on. They left behind them four messed up kids, because when they where younger they expierianced only home after home after home, Goldenbridge Lynden etc. No.. their not proud, they never where, they couldn't be, they where too sick for the best part of their lives. and dont worry I wont be coming back to your wonderful forum of which you are so proud and as regards looking for respect, i've done without respect for 30 something years now, do you realy believe that I would come to your forum in the hope of achieving such a thing? I came to this forum, because what i am saying is acctually out side of religion, it has nothing to do with religion and more to do with reality, the reality of a people, a nation in trouble, such as the house of israel, the reason that i call them this is because they took their name Jehovah from the book of Isaiah, in the exact place were Jehovah was speaking to..........the house of israel, where he says "you will be witnesses of mine". I know a great deal about these people, why else would I bother with a web site, I spent three years listening to them. My wife almost died because of them,I thinks that it's realy you who is ill informed. If you dont get afraid living in a world as insecure as the one you are living on,youve' got to be living on a diffrent planet. If you had children then maybe you would realise the worry people have about even bringing them into this world. Maybe you belive that the Americans have acctually make the world secure again, the truth is they have brought us right into a Battle that will resemble Armiggido, there is no turning back for them now. this world is on the best of days, a very rocky and insecure one, yes, we all get afraid. its normal, its ok. Peoples heads are so filled with pretend tv, that i think they belive that what they hear through the new's is also just pretend, well its not. its a serious world we live in. and yes i do see most of the names such as vent my spleen'do look ridiculous and you shouldn't be so offended by that or do you see all these names as hip. because they aren't. Any way, sorry to have intruded into your little world, if it wasn't your it would have been someone else's, because things have to be said. and do you know what the music today is pure undiluted s**te, i have about ten other people who agree on that , so, music board, maybe when the music gets a little better. of course Damien Dempsey is not included in this, nor Paddy Casey, they have the knack. see ya all. oh and by t he way tell that guy dirtyno balls to just calm down becasue if he doesn't then he'll drop dead with a cardiac arrest, thats too much stress for one person and if he makes threat like that again he's better follow it up, you know he must have a weak image of him self and its all there in the proofe that he made that threat. thankyou aaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllbye bye
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    Who answered the door to the jehovah witness?
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    I'm sorry to hear that about your parents Damien and as it happens happens I do have a child so I know exactly what it feels like to be afraid of the modern 'dangers' of the world. You say this has nothin to do with religon yet there you are again bringing The House of Israel et al in to it again...? I still think your talking s**te and your attitude still stinks - good luck in finding people that will take kindly to being judged and preached at by a stranger, you're going to need it.
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    The thing that pisses me off about religion is the undulterated & unwanted method of spoonfeeding it to others, the Big Brother attitude; my way or no way. Frankly I lost my catholic faith a long time ago because of the manner it was thought to us. When all you free thinking folk replied to this guy, the only way he responded was bitter, contradictory (as in spreading hate he claims to despise)and pretty insulting to anyone who disagrees with him. When are you going to realise that no amount of insults or cutting & pasting replies so you can attack people is going convert us and make us think that our lives are held within a "house of Israel"? You just don't get the point, do you? You're entitled to your beliefs, but you are not entitled to brainwash those beliefs onto people like our good selves. Everyone's entitled to live their lives and face their own demons or judgements. Everyone's read your post and disagreed with it, but you just can't take that, can you? Personally, I can't stand what America is doing either but I'm not waiting for Jehovah to judge them. I'm doing my bit now in protesting against their war efforts as in when I joined in protests in Dublin, similar protests that took place around the globe. That's a lot more practical than people like you standing on a soapbox proclaiming that we should all be afraid and that our world is on rocky ground. No thanks. I'm content to live my life as best a person as I can be to my partner, family & friends and indulging in wonderful communication endeavours such as all the delightful free-spirited folk on this site who have followed their own beliefs and given their reactions, reactions that you have replied to in the worst possible way. How do you expect these people to take you seriously when clearly, you are totally blind to the fact that (gasp) some people don't agree with your faith and do not appreciate all your preachings or insulting ramblings, not to mention your endless contradicitons of yourself? I can't imagine that any religious faith in the world is designed to trap followers into such a mindset as it has done with you. You are an incredibly naieve, delusionl and close-minded individual. If Jehovah really is up there, he must be looking at you, slapping his forehead and wondering where the f**k he went wrong. Q2 PS I think we should appoint Dromed spokesperson for the free world.
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    I'm sorry to hear that about your parents Damien and as it happens happens I do have a child so I know exactly what it feels like to be afraid of the modern 'dangers' of the world. You say this has nothin to do with religon yet there you are again bringing The House of Israel et al in to it again...? I still think your talking s**te and your attitude still stinks - good luck in finding people that will take kindly to being judged and preached at by a stranger, you're going to need it.
    this is the last thing i will say just to laet you know that it is not me asking you to live by what i am saying. The nations and the house of israel have been going up against the God of Israel for thousands of years now, the house of israel have broken law after law. God has always expected his people to live by a few rules. in ezekiel 18/3 it is not easy for me to quote scripture because of the way they have bastardized everything on this earth, nothing is sacred any More. in this cahpter it makes it very clear what Jehovah expects from the people of the earth. 1.do not kill. 2.do not steal. 3.do not lend money for intrest or gain. 4.do not lay down with a woman during her period. 5. do not go after your fellowmans wife. 6.do not go up to the shrines of the nations in order to worship. 7.do not worship the idols of the israelites/ 8.he must feed and clothe the poor and the needy 9.he does no injustice or injury to his fellow man. 10.and he is carefull to keep everone of Gods commands, this one will be called a righteous man. So you see the man who keeps these laws is the man who will live, the man who does the opposite to these rules is the one who will die. he will die on a spiritual level, not a literal death, but a spiritual death. which can be worse thatn dieing, because with a spiritual death, you dont feel well at all, you lack life. for the life is within obidiance to the commands. So you see it has nothing to with me the God of Isreal has allway's demanded that his people follow a particular way, his way or no way. it may offend some people hearts to hear this but his laws bring life, so they are commands for his people protection. thank you for listeing, Damien.
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    What's this, the first draft of the Ten Comandments or something? Perhaps before God's editor gave it the once over and said "lose the bit about the periods will you, it's not very commercial."
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    Q2 it's a lost cause you're fightin there, you made some good points , sadly they'll be lost on the ears they were meant for. I hadn't realised the actual depth of this persons audacity and sheer radio-rentalness. I am shocked and disturbed by this dude, all I can think of is pleaseeee change the subject, someone that's going to come on and say crap like that doesn't deserve a platform to do so. So for those of us that still have a sense of humour.... Father Dougal: "I don't believe in organized religion" Eoin McLove: "Get away from me! I don't want to catch the menopause!" Father Dougal: Ahh, lets see, I'll have the Hindu Curry, Steak and Chips, and a glass of Coke thanks. Policeman: Do you know where you are? You're in a police station. Father Dougal: Oh right. Well, in that case, I'll just have the Satay Chicken Father Dougal: God, Ted, I've never met anyone like him anywhere. Who would he be like, Hitler or one of those mad fellas? Father Ted: Oh, worse than Hitler! You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning. Father Ted: What was it he used to say about the needy? He had a term for them... Father Dougal: A shower of bastards Father Fitzpatrick: And this is the last known photo of Herr Hitler; he's signing a few death warrants there. Ted: Funny how you get more right-wing as you get older! Bishop Brennan: You will address me by my proper title, you little bollocks! Dougal: Sorry Ted. I was concentrating too hard on looking holy. Jack: (judging a Wet T-shirt competition) More Water! Ted: Dougal, how did you get into the church in the first place? Was it, like, 'collect 12 crisp packets and become a priest?' Dougal: Hello there Len. Bishop Brennan: Don't call me Len, you prick. Refer to me as 'Bishop Brennan'! Dougal: Ah right you are there Len. Dougal: God, I've heard about those cults Ted. People dressing up in black and saying Our Lord's going to come back and save us all. Ted: No, Dougal, that's us. That's Catholicism. Dougal: Oh right. Dougal: Watch this, Ted. (rubs letters off blackboard) You see? You can rub off the letters. Ted: But, Dougal, you can do that with any blackboard. Dougal: What? Ted: So there he is. Risen from the dead. Like that feller.... E.T. Dougal: (trying to pray) Hail Mary who art in heaven....... Ted: Hallowed. Dougal: Oh yeah. Hallowed Be.... Ted: Thy Name... Dougal: Papa Don't Preach........ Ted: Dougal, you know you can praise the lord with sleep. Dougal: Really Ted? You can praise him in lots of ways, like that time you said that I could praise him just by leaving the room. Ted: Yes, that was a good one ! Dougal: C'mere Ted, Ted, Teddy, Ted. God, I love being a priest. We're all going to heaven lads, wheeeyyyyyy!!! Mrs Doyle: (whilst Ted is trying to eat a sausage) Oh it's a filthy, dirty business, sex. Can you imagine, Father. Your husband standing over you with his lad in his hand, wanting you to degrade yourself. Amen to that!
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    Q2 it's a lost cause you're fightin there, you made some good points , sadly they'll be lost on the ears they were meant for. I hadn't realised the actual depth of this persons audacity and sheer radio-rentalness. I am shocked and disturbed by this dude, all I can think of is pleaseeee change the subject, someone that's going to come on and say crap like that doesn't deserve a platform to do so. So for those of us that still have a sense of humour.... Father Dougal: "I don't believe in organized religion" Eoin McLove: "Get away from me! I don't want to catch the menopause!" Father Dougal: Ahh, lets see, I'll have the Hindu Curry, Steak and Chips, and a glass of Coke thanks. Policeman: Do you know where you are? You're in a police station. Father Dougal: Oh right. Well, in that case, I'll just have the Satay Chicken Father Dougal: God, Ted, I've never met anyone like him anywhere. Who would he be like, Hitler or one of those mad fellas? Father Ted: Oh, worse than Hitler! You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning. Father Ted: What was it he used to say about the needy? He had a term for them... Father Dougal: A shower of bastards Father Fitzpatrick: And this is the last known photo of Herr Hitler; he's signing a few death warrants there. Ted: Funny how you get more right-wing as you get older! Bishop Brennan: You will address me by my proper title, you little bollocks! Dougal: Sorry Ted. I was concentrating too hard on looking holy. Jack: (judging a Wet T-shirt competition) More Water! Ted: Dougal, how did you get into the church in the first place? Was it, like, 'collect 12 crisp packets and become a priest?' Dougal: Hello there Len. Bishop Brennan: Don't call me Len, you prick. Refer to me as 'Bishop Brennan'! Dougal: Ah right you are there Len. Dougal: God, I've heard about those cults Ted. People dressing up in black and saying Our Lord's going to come back and save us all. Ted: No, Dougal, that's us. That's Catholicism. Dougal: Oh right. Dougal: Watch this, Ted. (rubs letters off blackboard) You see? You can rub off the letters. Ted: But, Dougal, you can do that with any blackboard. Dougal: What? Ted: So there he is. Risen from the dead. Like that feller.... E.T. Dougal: (trying to pray) Hail Mary who art in heaven....... Ted: Hallowed. Dougal: Oh yeah. Hallowed Be.... Ted: Thy Name... Dougal: Papa Don't Preach........ Ted: Dougal, you know you can praise the lord with sleep. Dougal: Really Ted? You can praise him in lots of ways, like that time you said that I could praise him just by leaving the room. Ted: Yes, that was a good one ! Dougal: C'mere Ted, Ted, Teddy, Ted. God, I love being a priest. We're all going to heaven lads, wheeeyyyyyy!!! Mrs Doyle: (whilst Ted is trying to eat a sausage) Oh it's a filthy, dirty business, sex. Can you imagine, Father. Your husband standing over you with his lad in his hand, wanting you to degrade yourself. Amen to that!
    youve just abused the God of ISRAELS DECREES, its not me you mock but him, oh mocking and twisted generation. its no wonder we can't get it together, when we canott agree on simple basic commands, bby the way every court of law on the planet expect the people to abide by the few commands i just gave you. you know you just dont get any of this do you,do you know that if every human being lived by these few rules then we would have world wide peace. no killing no stealing no need for prisons. you are, when you mock the commands,mocking GOD. i'll love you and leave you lads, i'm tired of the abuse, and the lack of understanding. I just sense violence and it aint good for the nervous system, you know people telling me their going to piss in my mouth, just about say's it all about the state of people and this world we live in. ?
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    This has become utterly pointless. This "discussion" has gone so much further than it deserved to. This is a music discussion forum for pete's sake. As Spleeno said earlier, this is not a discussion, this guy is simply shoving his agenda down everyone's throat and when they puke it back up, he responds with insults and judgemental religious tripe. He's tired of the abuse? He shouldn't have fired the first shot then. I would urge everyone on this board not to dignify any more of this rubbish with a response. Failing that, I would ask one of the moderators to shut this thread down. Q2
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    This has become utterly pointless. This "discussion" has gone so much further than it deserved to. This is a music discussion forum for pete's sake. As Spleeno said earlier, this is not a discussion, this guy is simply shoving his agenda down everyone's throat and when they puke it back up, he responds with insults and judgemental religious tripe. He's tired of the abuse? He shouldn't have fired the first shot then. I would urge everyone on this board not to dignify any more of this rubbish with a response. AND IN THIS LINK YOU WILL ALSO THIS PERSON LINK THE WITNESSES TO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. Failing that, I would ask one of the moderators to shut this thread down. Q2
    I agree, take the thread down becasue the attacks,they look ugly. All I am saying is, that the Jehovah's witness have made a mockery of GODS name,some people are even aware of what they are doing, and try and say they are not making a laughing stock out of him follow this link and read the very first few lines http://www.virushead.net/jwhumor.html this person she must feel some kind of guilt as she try's to convince in her opening words that she /he is not out to make fun of Gods name. Damien Davis
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    Lads ignore this loser An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people. Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility. Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words. What about Free Speech? When trolls find that their efforts are being successfully resisted, they often complain that their right to free speech is being infringed. Let us examine that claim. While most people on the Internet are ardent defenders of free speech, it is not an absolute right; there are practical limitations. For example, you may not scream out "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, and you may not make jokes about bombs while waiting to board an airplane. We accept these limitations because we recognize that they serve a greater good.


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